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brad_vanderband1 10-21-2007 04:15 PM

dogs running the woods.
 
so what do you do about rowdy dogs that run the woods. on my property it was not at all uncommon to see 20 some deer at night or in the morning. the past few weeks we've seen 2 maybe and a few dogs with collars chasing the deer. i have talked to all the neighbors about the dogs and none of them say they match the describsions. so what do you do. my hunting season is going down the drain watching these dogs. can i trap them. i warned each neighbor that if they do have dogs that they better learn how to keep them on there property or i will take care of them for them.

HNI Jim 10-21-2007 04:19 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
see how the dogs like paintballs hitting thier head.

brad_vanderband1 10-21-2007 04:25 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
thinking something alittle more permanent,lol

HNI Jim 10-21-2007 04:27 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 

ORIGINAL: brad_vanderband1

thinking something alittle more permanent,lol
wouldnt waste a sharp BH on a dog tho.

nchawkeye 10-21-2007 04:31 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
Do what I do...Shoot them with a slingshot........:D

gamespooker 10-21-2007 04:33 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 


sutton 10-21-2007 05:08 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
My Neighbor up my camp has the same problem. Hes has been shoting them with a bb gun but it has done nothing. hes going to sit in his treestand with his rifle and hes gunna shot them andget ride of them i suggest doing the same thing. Its not worth trapping them or putting them through pain just kill them.

nchawkeye 10-21-2007 05:17 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
I would not shoot anyone's dog...In fact, it is a felony in NC to shoot someone else's dog...

I had a property I hunted a few years back, got pictures of 3 different dogs checking a scrape...I took the pictures to the landowner and asked him if he knew who's dogs they were...He said he did and let the owners know to chain them up during the season...

Now, if they are deer hunting dogs, good luck...Most deer dogs have better blood lines then their owners....

Derag2 10-21-2007 05:24 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
shoot them if they not anyone close by..... Wild dogs can ruin a deer herd, most the time they kill and leave them lay dont even bother eating them, they just kill for fun, and in the end basically turn into a pack of coyotes, they will join up other dogs and maybe even a coyote or two and you'll have a dangerous pack on your hands. Maybe take some pics and see if anyone claims them.

Schultzy 10-21-2007 05:54 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
If i seen dogs chasing deer on my property, they would be shot in no time unless i new whose they were! Most of the time i tell the owners aboutit but if i see them again there done. I talked with the game warden about it and he said if you actually see them chasing deer and its on your property, you can legaly shoot them! All states are different with there laws but here where i live law or no law no dogs are going to be ruining my deerhunting!

lifesadrag 10-21-2007 05:58 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
Here's how I keep them out of my area.....


DBerrard 10-21-2007 06:09 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 

ORIGINAL: Schultzy

If i seen dogs chasing deer on my property, they would be shot in no time unless i new whose they were! Most of the time i tell the owners aboutit but if i see them again there done. I talked with the game warden about it and he said if you actually see them chasing deer and its on your property, you can legaly shoot them! All states are different with there laws but here where i live law or no law no dogs are going to be ruining my deerhunting!
If dnr or the police see a dog chase deer they can shoot it. Don't see why civi's can't then. Plus the owner of a dog that kills deer can be fined up to $500 per deer that was killed by their dog.
But as far as the thread goes, it doesn't sound as if the dogs have been witnessed chasing, and they have collars so it'd be pretty low to kill someones pet for better deer hunting. IMO anyways..

Edit: Err long day, after rereading I guess they've been seen chasing deer so if the thread starter can't find the owners and witnesses em chaing deer again...up to him whether or not to kill em eh. Odd that people would let their dogs run during this season though...shame

Schultzy 10-21-2007 06:50 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 

ORIGINAL: DBerrard


ORIGINAL: Schultzy

If i seen dogs chasing deer on my property, they would be shot in no time unless i new whose they were! Most of the time i tell the owners aboutit but if i see them again there done. I talked with the game warden about it and he said if you actually see them chasing deer and its on your property, you can legaly shoot them! All states are different with there laws but here where i live law or no law no dogs are going to be ruining my deerhunting!
If dnr or the police see a dog chase deer they can shoot it. Don't see why civi's can't then. Plus the owner of a dog that kills deer can be fined up to $500 per deer that was killed by their dog.
But as far as the thread goes, it doesn't sound as if the dogs have been witnessed chasing, and they have collars so it'd be pretty low to kill someones pet for better deer hunting. IMO anyways..

Edit: Err long day, after rereading I guess they've been seen chasing deer so if the thread starter can't find the owners and witnesses em chaing deer again...up to him whether or not to kill em eh. Odd that people would let their dogs run during this season though...shame
I've felt bad when i've shot dogs, to tell you the truth its not the dogs fault, its really the people who own the dogs is who toblame, but if there not going to keep there dogs home, i guessthen the land owner has to take care of it himself! Its never a good thing but there's not much else to do about it other then let em run on your property!Its a tough spot to be in!

sandilands 10-21-2007 10:00 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
I ain't shootin no dog!!! My deer hunt isn't that important. Lots of dogs in 1 place I just move to another a few miles away. A few yrs ago I had a really hot early stand. Then it just dried up [&:][&:][&:]I had no clue and then on the 3rd day I saw the culpret.A ferral cat. I could have shot it but but its life was hard enough as it was. Looked plenty healthy at the time so I let it be...... I don't like playing God.

AF Hunter 10-21-2007 10:08 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
Contact your local/county animal control personnel. Many counties have statutes against letting pets run wild. Anyway, if your lucky enough to have these laws, animal control will come out and live trap the dogs and remove them.

springcaller 10-21-2007 11:22 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 

ORIGINAL: AF Hunter

Contact your local/county animal control personnel. Many counties have statutes against letting pets run wild. Anyway, if your lucky enough to have these laws, animal control will come out and live trap the dogs and remove them.
Ditto!!!!

Try this first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of these threads are crazy, you want to talk about antis getting fuel for the fire, this thread will do it! The local shelter will most likely come out and set some live traps. If they don't, call the warden and see what he has to say about it(just don't make it public if you are aloud to put them down).

kevin1 10-22-2007 06:16 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
Call animal control first and foremost, if that doesn't resolve the matter then SSS may be the only answer. In my state if a loose dog is causing damage to your property or livestock you can cap them. Disruption of hunting is also considered damage.

Austin/WI 10-22-2007 06:29 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 

ORIGINAL: sandilands

...... I don't like playing God.
But taking a deer with a gun or bow is okay? Sorry, but you do realize how silly this does sound, right?

Planter 10-22-2007 06:53 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
I always thought I could kill a dog running deer in my zone but can't help but think someone cares for that dog as much as I care for mine. Heck I would give up the wife and kids first b4 I gave up my brittany.
Granted, I don't live in an area where feral dogs are a problem but would sure have trouble shooting a collared pet. I do keep a rubber blunt in my quiver and think that might get their attention with a shot to the rump but I doubt they would associate that with running deer and would probably be doing it again real soon anyway.
If you do lace a dog just don't let the word get out. Could be a real black eye for hunters.


bigcountry 10-22-2007 07:02 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
Shooting someone's pet, you are risking your own life and and your families. Back in the day before I accepted Christ, if you arrowed my dog, I would have shot ya, no ifs ands or buts. But, now, humans over dogs. But I know people that would burn down your house over thier pet. And if you haven't noticed in the news lately, they would have the backing of the media when it was said and done.

Dogs run deer, all kinds of things disturb deer. You can't stop them all. Thats hunting. If you really want to stop everything that disturbs deer, go out and buy meat. Or buy a rack off ebay.

rock_slinger 10-22-2007 08:10 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
If you love your pet you need to control them!! I have two dogs that I care for very much. I also keep them on my land and respect others. They can get away but if you have a repeat offender I would take care of the problem with little guilt.

Vulture6 10-22-2007 08:12 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
I'm not in favor of shooting dogs... and a radio collar doesn't make a dog a pet... but there has to be a solution to people letting deer dogs run willy-nilly across the county.

I hunt 200 acre of private land surrounded on three sides by national park, and the local "club" will come drop their dogs in the park to chase the deer out -- of course, that includes running them across the 200 acres I hunt. Needless to say, running dogs through the park is illegal as hell, and while you can't shoot a deer dog in VA, the national park is under Federal jurisdiction and the rangers there shoot deer dogs in a heartbeat. The guys running the dogs generally don't give a crap about posted signs, private land, or boundaries... so needless to say, I'm open to suggestions.

moose1915 10-22-2007 08:13 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 

ORIGINAL: sandilands
.... I don't like playing God.
but you kill deer.....:eek:

passthrough24 10-22-2007 09:11 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
I have a similar problem...On one piece of property I hunt the neighbors dog follows me to my standevery time i hunt...Ussually he is waiting for me when I get out of my truck, when i see him then i can just take him to his home and tie him up but it is really annoying when he follows me to my stand, he is the friendliest dog in the world and I really dont believe he is chasing deer, but he has wrecked my hunt more than once...

NY/Al 10-22-2007 09:21 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
Try to find the landowner, if you cant then call animal control. If they cant, do what you gotta do.

BIGBUCK17 10-22-2007 09:55 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
just go on ahead and get some bow practice on them. just use a dull or old broadhead.

mahunter 10-22-2007 11:09 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
This happened to me last year and luckily we located the owner and called the DEP. They went to the peoples house and ripped them a new one other than that don't know what to tell you. The paintball and sling shots seem like a good idea. I wouldn't kill em though.

GRIZZLYMAN 10-22-2007 11:26 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
As much as I have felt like it, I can't bring myself to shoot a dog. Yotes are another matter though.

MountainHunter 10-22-2007 11:56 AM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
I'd like to know what the laws are in VA for this. Last weekend, I had 2 dogs run right under my stand about 20 minutes after sunrise. The only deer I saw that day after that was a button buck I called in just beforeI left at noon. The week before I had seen 13 from a stand 30 years away. It's illegal to run deer with dogs in the county where I hunt, and I was on my own private, postedland. Same thing happened last year on a different piece of private, posted land I hunted a few miles from there. Same results: no other deer that day. Really pisses me off. I love dogs though, and would have a hard time shooting one unless it was a repeat offender. It's not the dogs' fault, really. They can't read posted signs. I plan to find out whose dogs they are and talk to the owner. Then, if the owner doesn't care enough about them to control them during hunting season (especially bow season), then they probably aren't being treated right anyways and I wouldn't feel as badly about shooting them (first with a BB gun, then with something stronger), but I'd like to know where I stood legally before doing anything.

northwoods 10-22-2007 03:21 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
How can anyone one say they would instantly shoot the dog? I run bear with hounds and know dogs well. They will all run deer given the opportunity until broken off of them. What if that dog belonged to a family and their 5 year old daughter accidentally let him out of his kennel... what would you say then?
It would be one thing if you located the owner and they didn't care to do anything about it... but some dogs are magician's and get loose on their own. I had a pup in which I went through 5 diferent types of snaps before I found one that kept him on the chain. Can you believe he was getting off of a bull snap? A friend of mine caught a guy letting his dogs loose when he wasn't home.There can many reasons for a dog to be loose.

You need to exhaust all of your options andresources before resorting to shooting someones dog. They have collars... is there a name tag? Do they come to you when called? Do they appear to be skittish?

brad_vanderband1 10-22-2007 06:10 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
well this is private land that i lease and pay dearly for. i am not for shooting dogs or anyones pet but who lets there pet loose for 3 weeks and doent claim them. this is a lease in a well known county for big bucks and deer sighting used to be tons now down to nearly nothing. we have seen these dogs for the past 3 weeks chasing deer. yes they have collars but arent the getting close type, i was actually kinda scared to get out of my tree but was packing heat.

brad_vanderband1 10-22-2007 06:11 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
im not really enjoying the idea of watching alot of work and alot of money not to mention a 2 hour drive go for nothing.

brad_vanderband1 10-30-2007 06:48 PM

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brad_vanderband1 10-30-2007 06:49 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 

Arrowmaster 10-30-2007 07:08 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
Im not going to shoot anyones dog, especially if it has a collar. Its not the dogs fault, its the owners fault. Its too bad people cant keep thier pets on a chain or penned up during deer or turkey season.

swamp rooster 10-30-2007 07:15 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
it is true dogs will ruin a good deer farm,you put alot of time in scouting ,hangin stands,and getting ready for deer season,then when a nice buck is coming down the field then here comes a dog or a pack of them to run him slap out of the country ...that just aint cool.,i have a yard full of dogs and love them dearly ,,crazy bout my dogs,,and ill be the first to tell ya ,,i have smoked a bunch of them ,,on the deer farm,,its the only thing to do if your gona hunt and enjoy your time huntin.just allways put them down and make sure they do not make it home wounded ,cause thats when the owners start saying ,,a deer hunter did it,,by them not coming home they just think there out chaseing a mama dog or just run away ,and nobodys feelings get hurt that way,,,everyone remains friends.and you get to deer hunt in peace..at least thats how its done here.

big rockpile 10-30-2007 07:31 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
Ok I sued a Guy for damage his Dog did on my property.I also sued two Guys for shooting my Dogs.

I had two Dogs running Deer on my place.Went to the people that owned them.They told me to shoot them.Well I told them I really felt it was their problem.But they insisted if I had a problem with them shoot them.Well I shot one.Then later on someone shot the other,but it made it back to their house,they took it to the Vet and everything.Well I found out they was mad because they thought I shot this Dog.I told them I didn't.They said they kind of figured it wasn't me because it made it back there.

Truth around here they have a write up in the Paper that you can't just be shooting Dogs running your property.

big rockpile

swamp rooster 10-30-2007 07:37 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
hellooooooo.thats why its so important they can not make it home,,,if you cant clip em clean then wait for a better chance,,they will be back.,,remember you got to hide them also,,usually our coyotes will take care of them that same night,,i mean it want even be a hair left,,amazine just amazine..

Mizzouhunter 10-30-2007 08:14 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 
Just happened to get the November issue of the Missouri Conservationist the other day and it had a little article about dogs that are on others property.

"Dogs on private property are not considered to be trespassing. However, state statutes prohibit any person, including hunters, from entering private property without permission, even if they are just trying to retrieve their dogs.

Chapter 273 of the Missouri Revised Statutes allows landowners to pursue and kill dogs that are chasing or injuring livestock. Landowners, however, cannot shoot dogs simply for being on their property. Doing so can result in criminal charges."

Although in some cases it may be hard to prove who or what killed the dog, personally, I wouldn't risk it.In my opinion, a little inconvenience doesn't justifyshooting someone else's pet. Nor does it justify the possibilityof getting hit with criminal charges. Just not worth it.



Finch 10-30-2007 08:28 PM

RE: dogs running the woods.
 

ORIGINAL: swamp rooster

hellooooooo.thats why its so important they can not make it home,,,if you cant clip em clean then wait for a better chance,,they will be back.,,remember you got to hide them also,,usually our coyotes will take care of them that same night,,i mean it want even be a hair left,,amazine just amazine..
Some people seem so heartless and over a damn deer.[&:] Heres a perfect example of why my dog is kept under close supervision during hunting season. I actually believe some people like to kill dogs and use the "they were chasing deer" excuse to justify their actions.


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