Respectable poachers...if there is such a thing.
 

This is going to sound like a silly question. Do you guys have more respect for some poachers than others?

Let me explain. I went to my parents house a few days ago (that is where I got my doe) to do some hunting. While there, I was told by a few people about some deer that were killed, tenderloin cut out, and the rest thrown away. I was also told who was behind it, two teenagers. These guys have been in a lot of trouble. One had even dropped out of school couple years back and has gotten into trouble for drugs, stealing, etc.

Anyway, I go check out where the deer were supposed to be. Well, sure enough I found them. One was behind their garage in the CREEK. It was so badly decayed I could not make out if the tenderloin had been cut out but I'll take my "informants" advice as accurate. The other one was behind a dumpster. Bow season has only been in a week so I definitely know they were out of season. They were more than likely taken with a .22 mag during the night. Thats pretty popular around here. Hell, the buck I killed a couple years back had (3) .22 bullets in him.

I call the Wildlife Violations hotline and reported the location of the deer and what I had been told. A warden called me back and I spoke with him. They are going to look into it and possibly set up a decoy somewhere. I told him to be prepared to hear some gunshots. There are a lot of spotlighters in that part of the county.

Back to my point. I do have more respect for the poachers that actually use the meat instead of killing for the sport of it or only cutting out the tenderloin. Do you see my point?

Here's the deer that DIRECTLY behind their garage. Notice the the lawn chair and pallet. They don't much care about the appearance of their property. Notice all that white stuff, thousands of maggots.


This is the one behind the dumpster.

RE: Respectable poachers...if there is such a thing.
 

no poachers are poachcers

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I can't say I respect any poacher, I pay for my tags and licenses and follow the law because Ienjoy taking a deer totally legally without cutting corners. But I can see some instances where a man had to feed his family, and he shot a doe, well.... feed the kids.

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I agree with you guys that "poachers are poachers" but thank goodness all poachers don't do the above.

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I have no respect for poachers period![:'(] Poaching to feed his family is a cop out!

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I agree BHF. Poaching to feed his/her family is a lousy excuse.

Obviously these guys are not worried about feeding their families. If that was the case then all I should have seen at these two locations were deer hides, not the whole deer.

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I wasn't saying these guys were feeding anyone. your right in they're obviously kids or dumbazz "adults" with no respect. if a guy claims to be feeding his family but his meat had a nice rack on it, screw him it's bs.

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Poachers are scum bags. If these guys did it for the food and took the loins out, what did they get? Maybe one meal! Why not butcher the whole thing then? Lazy and taking shortcuts, thats why. I hope the DNR buststhem.

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I got to thinking, Am i poaching when i hunt without an adult even tho i have to have one with me to bowhunt?

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No, I wouldn't call that poaching. How old are you supposed to be to hunt by yourself, 16?

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I would have to agree that there are varying degrees of "poaching". Our Division of Wildlife calls a guy who shot a deer in the game management unit just adjacent to the one forwhichhe has a valid license a "poacher". Or a guy who shoots a buck 50 yards onto a neighbor's property and drags it across the fence. But as long as it is willful and intentional, it is still poaching.

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yeah 16 but in other states you can so NY is insulting my intelligence.

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I wouldn't say that Jim, the laws are there for a reason! You get caught and you'll be waiting even longer to hunt without an adult!

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But how can kids do it on thier own in other states, Is NY lacking some skill for hunting and i need a 1 year expierenced adult to tell me how to sit in a tree and shoot a deer. They are forcing more and more kids out of hunting with that law. And i think im going to email some1 about this issure right now.

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If it was truly an issue of my wife and kid's going hungry I believe I would shoot/poach a deer. I can't imagine being that hungry but some are I don't think the lord would hold it against me. I'm sure I will stand alone on this one but if any of you are hungry and can't get food stamps or what ever other kind of relief there is out there feel free to shoot a doe but just make sure you use every last scrap.

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If you will allow them to poach, why limit a "hungry" poacher to a doe? Because a buck is worth more to you the legal hunter? I'm curious on your statement.

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Hey you cant eat the horns why shoot a buck with horns on it if your going to poach?

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why poach in the first place.

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Do you think a poacher thats "trying" to feed his family should care if it has horns? He is poaching for the meat.

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I would think if you were hungry.........buck or doe would not make a difference, meat is meat............I have no respect for anyone, legal or not , that does not respect the animal they kill and use the meat or at least donate it if they do not want it...........I have had guys give me a deer (I didn't want or ask for it) because they killed a buck and only wanted to cut the antlers off! It is perfectly legal for these guys to hunt, but I would call that poaching to some degree, the animal was left in mt shed without me even knowing about it, he called and said do "whatever " with it! Needless to say that man does not hunt on our property anymore.................If a man was truly starving and needed to put a meal on his families table I would not hold it against him, that is not disrespecting the animal it is just not having the $$$$$ to buy a tag........I think there are far worse things than that, such as the example at the beginning of this thread, wasting that animal for the pleasure of killing..........that is poaching!

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The poacher should go to a food pantry, there are so many other ways to get food if your in need! How bout getting a job for starters!

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The government has setup benefits for hungry people. Such as food stamps, free meals, etc. There's no need to poach deer.

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True , but what if there are no pantry's where he/she lives and what if there are no jobs? These are hypothetical questions, but i would imagine somewhere in this country it could be reality..........also realize that the DNR has stopped all funding for the pantry program in Wi., because they blew their budget on testing for CWD which will never be eliminated from our state! This brings up another question i have for you........since the DNR is no longer funding the pantry program , some meat lockers are exceptiong donated deer IF the hunter is willing to pay $20 towards the processing, would YOU be willing to pay $20 to donate a deer? (I would)

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I'm from NW PA, and we have a problem with the Amish folks killing more then their limit. (They are allowed to have no more then 2 deer in the household ant any time, other then legally take during the hunting season. But I believe this, if, at a last resort, the family needs food, and there is an opportunity to respectfully take game, this is not a problem, in my eyes. Now with that said, poaching is poaching. I believe there are enough services out there to feed hungry folk, its just that they are too scared, (or proud) to take advantage of these programs. Not to sayI have slightly more respect for people taking and using the animal properly, I can’t be sure. But I would rather they use it then to just waste the deer totally, right?

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I dont respect any poachers and neither should any hunter.

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janesburg.. I guess it is because a buck is worth more to me as a legal hunter and a doe is more of a meat deer.
I have never been hungry so I really don't know what it like. There are people out there that won't eat today and they are not all lazy bums. There but for the grace of god go I. I know guys who shoot a deer then drive around looking for someone to dump it on.
I just think that if for some unknown reason my kids were crying from hunger I would poach a deer.I would hang my head in shame knowing it was wrong but I think I would still do it.

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There are programs for hunters to hun for the hungry. They should try and contact one of these programs.