Poacher Busted - CO Unit 61
10-05-2007 | 10:03 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: North East Texas
RE: Poacher Busted - CO Unit 61
ORIGINAL: cynikalHC
Defenitely dont have any sympathy for him. I think that TX should participate in the wildlife compact agreement so he cant hunt here either. If he would poach out of state then he sure as hell would poach here. If he didnt know he was on the wrong land then it would be a differnt story. But he knowingly broke the law so good riddens.
Defenitely dont have any sympathy for him. I think that TX should participate in the wildlife compact agreement so he cant hunt here either. If he would poach out of state then he sure as hell would poach here. If he didnt know he was on the wrong land then it would be a differnt story. But he knowingly broke the law so good riddens.
10-05-2007 | 10:31 AM
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From: Antioch, IL
RE: Poacher Busted - CO Unit 61
i agree that something NEEDED to be done, no question, he broke the law, he needs to pay... $12k just seems excessive... revoke/suspend his hunting/fishing privileges for 10yrs or so, fine him 1-2000 bucks, maybe confiscate the weapon (archery gear in this case)... that seems much more appropriate for the crime... c'mon now, guys that get busted with drugs often don't pay fines that high (which should scare many of you)...
10-05-2007 | 10:44 AM
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From: Kodiak, AK
RE: Poacher Busted - CO Unit 61
He definitely got what he had coming. He knowingly broke the law and lied about it to cover it up which shows he had some incling of the consequences. he took a gamble and he got burned. As to the amount of the fine, it's public information, he should have known what he was getting into before he did it. If it's worth that much of a risk to him, then I'd say that $12K probably wasn't enough. It's all a matter of perspective; to some $12K is chump change so why not take the risk? There needs to be jail time associated with these violations.
10-05-2007 | 11:02 AM
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From: Antioch, IL
RE: Poacher Busted - CO Unit 61
ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher
There needs to be jail time associated with these violations.
There needs to be jail time associated with these violations.
"Are you F-n SERIOUS????"
this attitude reminds me of the fuedal system in the middle ages... its not like the guy had no license and didn't pay for a tag, he hunted on the wrong side of the road (inside the state in which he had a license and a paid tag), intentional or not, that's all this violation is... its akin to not parking a little to close to a hydrant or hauling a trailer without proper mirrors, something of that nature... not like he was hunting off-season, no license, no tag, spot lighting at night and all that crap...
of all the things in this world that deserve jail time (drug dealers, rapists, child molestors, etc.), this is definitely NOT one of them... don't get me wrong, not in anyway saying he's right, he screwed up and should pay... but the punishment should fit the crime, this punishment doesn't in my opinion, but clearly i'm in the minority... frankly, if i was in his shoes (though I don't ever believe i will be) I'd be talkin to an attorney and get the fine negotiated down or the charges reduced...
10-05-2007 | 11:14 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: WV
RE: Poacher Busted - CO Unit 61
You think that's bad sevenmag. Shoot a bighorn sheep in the wrong unit and it may get you a 30,000 fine for just the sheep itself plus all other applicable penalties and loss of hunting priveleges etc. The West is not like the East. Their are once in a lifetime trophies in many areas that are strictly protected. The fines are there as a preventative measure when talking about trophy animals. Most people that hunt out west know of this.
Also, it is the responsibility of the hunter to know EXACTLY where he is in relationship to borders. So if a person tend to "get lost" or is tempted to stalk an elk too far, they should hunt in the middle of the district.
Also, it is the responsibility of the hunter to know EXACTLY where he is in relationship to borders. So if a person tend to "get lost" or is tempted to stalk an elk too far, they should hunt in the middle of the district.
10-05-2007 | 11:40 AM
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From: WV
RE: Poacher Busted - CO Unit 61
Endangered species are protected under federal law and that is a seperate issue from what we're discussing here.
"On board" or not, you better make sure you can read a map (for many reasons)andcan resist temptation to hunt wherever you feel like,before you leave thelocal deer patch.
"On board" or not, you better make sure you can read a map (for many reasons)andcan resist temptation to hunt wherever you feel like,before you leave thelocal deer patch.
10-05-2007 | 12:43 PM
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From: Stony Point/Albany, NY
RE: Poacher Busted - CO Unit 61
ORIGINAL: SevenMag
saying this in the absolute nicest possible way (and with a little smile and surprise).......
"Are you F-n SERIOUS????"
this attitude reminds me of the fuedal system in the middle ages... its not like the guy had no license and didn't pay for a tag, he hunted on the wrong side of the road (inside the state in which he had a license and a paid tag), intentional or not, that's all this violation is... its akin to not parking a little to close to a hydrant or hauling a trailer without proper mirrors, something of that nature... not like he was hunting off-season, no license, no tag, spot lighting at night and all that crap...
of all the things in this world that deserve jail time (drug dealers, rapists, child molestors, etc.), this is definitely NOT one of them... don't get me wrong, not in anyway saying he's right, he screwed up and should pay... but the punishment should fit the crime, this punishment doesn't in my opinion, but clearly i'm in the minority... frankly, if i was in his shoes (though I don't ever believe i will be) I'd be talkin to an attorney and get the fine negotiated down or the charges reduced...
ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher
There needs to be jail time associated with these violations.
There needs to be jail time associated with these violations.
"Are you F-n SERIOUS????"
this attitude reminds me of the fuedal system in the middle ages... its not like the guy had no license and didn't pay for a tag, he hunted on the wrong side of the road (inside the state in which he had a license and a paid tag), intentional or not, that's all this violation is... its akin to not parking a little to close to a hydrant or hauling a trailer without proper mirrors, something of that nature... not like he was hunting off-season, no license, no tag, spot lighting at night and all that crap...
of all the things in this world that deserve jail time (drug dealers, rapists, child molestors, etc.), this is definitely NOT one of them... don't get me wrong, not in anyway saying he's right, he screwed up and should pay... but the punishment should fit the crime, this punishment doesn't in my opinion, but clearly i'm in the minority... frankly, if i was in his shoes (though I don't ever believe i will be) I'd be talkin to an attorney and get the fine negotiated down or the charges reduced...
Poachers know what they're doing, plus this guy was a mile into the zone, not just across the street.
