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http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bal-to.deer01oct01,0,196710.story

What is it about this freaking state. I moved here 10 years ago, and I still feel like a foreigner in a strange land.

My grandmother, a old wise tough lady from Ky says,"the reason people worry about stuff like this, is they got too much time on thier hands, when we were young, we just tried to survive."

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Why does it not suprise me that 2 gay women from NY don't like deer hunting...

Hunting is one of the most natural acts that we do....Mating is the other....
BUT....NOT with the SAME SEX....That just ain't right...

They have 14 acres and act like they own 1,000....I will agree if they have problems with trespassers they should run them off...If they are bothering legal hunters then they should be prosecuted...

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They are some frickin nut jobs! I feel bad for every hunter in that part of the state and for hunters everywhere really, all that article did was paint us in a bad light. What a crock of...

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For all those freakin hunters on here from PA, WV and Ky, I talk too, this is what we are up against in this state.

This is so typical.

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There are some very misinformed, ignorant, and downright strange people in this world.

And it's amazing to read some of the terminology these writers use to describe things. Phrases like "shot to pieces" and "crouching man with a taste for fawn meat" are so ridiculously overstated that it almost makes you wonder if the person who wrote them has any idea whatsoever what they are talking about. Apparently things like the truth, or proof of these events taking place as they are stated to have taken place, don't count for much when writing for the Baltimore Sun.

:(

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It's a liberal tree-hugger paper - What did ya expect out of them? Something intelligent? I have an Econ prof. who always give us articles out of the Balt. Sun, NY Times, and a bunch of his other liberal propaganda papers and I just laugh while reading them. What a waste of paper and ink!

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lol i know it. i thought it was already posted here or i would have posted it yesterday. look at some of the comments by the "anti"s they are amazingly dumb founded. look at my comments, Brent G, none of them seem to have a answer my my only real question: if they eat meat, what is the diffference between eating a hotdog and venison burger? the only dif. is that i know where my meat comes from and they dont. they cant utter up a good explanation for that, or atleast they havent as of yet. i cant even begin to understand how they can argue some of the points they are trying to argue.

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Thanks for the link. Coo coo.

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So, they are two Lesbian Women that moved from the middle of Manhattan to the country to enjoy the serenity. I wonder if they knew that their ancestors were hunters, and used the meat to live. Heck they're probably Vegans.

There are many in this world that I have no use for, and these women are two of them!

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My question is, WHY IS THIS NEWS? How pathetic but not unusual from a liberal leftist newspaper like that. Sad.[:'(]

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Md has a hunter harresment law. I hope if anyone has a run in with these luns to call DNR themself's if they are legal. Balt Sun isn't worth the paper it's printed on. I wonder if this womenare familiar with the Wisconsin tragety.

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The Sun is a horrible excuse for a quality newspaper. Let these two broads come into the woods I'm in.

In the woods I hunt in MD, we have had problems with people trying to harass us while hunting. Thankfully no one has made any attempts to come into the woods, but it still gets under your skin. [:@]

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Two nut job lesbians in MD who hate hunters will get print in the leftist Baltimore Sun, but anything that is pro hunting is ignored. They represent the minority of course, but the Sun realizes that if they can portray all hunters as law-breaking fawn killers, many fence sitters will side with the antis. It's typical of the Sun and their far left views on everything. If I didn't get it for free, I'd never read it.

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in a way i am glad she is out there stoping tresspassers and buchers but the hole anti huntering thing makes them seem stupid but they are so screw them when i get my first deer i will send them a pic lol

one of these mornings there going to come up on someone there ruining ther hunt and it will be the most dangers game and i bet the tree huggen hippy losses

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What annoys me the most is the sun tries to portray this as the rule in MD. I have met more than my share of liberal anti-hunters lunitics in MD. But I have met some hardcore hunters too. In fact, if it wasn't for Baltimore City,PG and Montgomery counties, you would think this state was extremely prohunting.

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I think the point that is being missed is that these twoarerunningpoachers out of a restricted area, nothunters who have the rights/permission to hunt this land.Yes, I agree that theytake it to the extreme, but if these poachers are hunting an area where hunting is not allowed, can you really feel sorry for them? Just my 2 cents.

-Rick C.

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Thats BS as the story is. They portray it as they have to constantly run off hunters, when truth be known, they found a doe wounded once that was shot on an adjacent farm, and wanted to get thier story out and made up some serious crap. And of course the idiots at the sun, and the other left winged idiots will believe and swallow any story that gets hunters upset.

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These women are complete nutjobs. But the bigger picture is the so called scumbag poachers and trespassers that enabled this to become a story in the first place.

If we didn't have the lowlife trespassing poachers, all we'd have is two lesbos watching deer from their porch. There would be no story to print! Once again, it's the lowlifes in our own ranks that are making life difficult for the rest of us.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, Bigcountry - but aren't you one of the right-wing psychopaths who is always preaching about"Landowner's Rights," "zero tolerance for trespassers" and "limited government intrusion in private matters."

You cry when the government tells you what to do. Now you cry when the government lets people do what they want to do with their own land.

Well... They own it. They can do what they want.

If you wanna cry about it - you might wanna finance your own little slice of paradise.

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I disagree. The story reads to non-hunters that this couple has to adjust their work schedule to keep trespassers out of their property. The few articles non-hunters read on an annual basis always paint a bad picture of hunters.

In the article they said a couple of things that should embarrass real hunters: First the buck was shot in the head with an arrow, and secondly a deer had it leg shot off. Whether it is true or not that is what people believe is happening. If it is true there is no excuse to shoot a deer in the head with an arrow.

Remember perception is realty to the non-hunters.

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I agree that the Lesbos have the right to protect their own land from trespassers, but the way the sun portrays hunters makes me sick, I couldn't even finish the article.

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Nope, I am not a right wring psychopaths, whatever.

Once again I will explain, for the third time, its about how the article uses its words carefully to demonize hunters. I know that general area, and I don't believe thier big tale of having to do all they do to keep hunters out. There is huntable land all around them. I guarantee, a deer was shot before and has ran on thier land. And they may have seen it first.And somebody may have had to track it on thier land. Which I have no problem with on my land.

This is my hugest issue with any post of yoru silver. You won't read or comprehend before you actually post. Its extremely annoying. You just want people to hear you.

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And you really believe this garbage? I have hunted my whole life and have killed over 50 or more deer, and haven't seen all the carnage they are lying about.

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QUOTE:Feinberg and her life partner, Lierra Lenhard,

ENOUGH SAID!

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You can probably add Anne Arundel and Howard Co.'s to that group as well. The funny thing is, in PG, Mont, AA, and How Co.'s you can take unlimited does LOL. There is a vocal minority of anti's here but I think you have that in most states. Usually, those with the weakest argument against something make the most noise with the least truth. That is why they are a vocal minority LOL. Despite this vocal minority we just had some Sunday hunts added to our season. Two good pro-hunting orgs to join in MD are the Maryland Bowhunters Society and the Maryland Sportmen's Association. By giving strength in numbers to those orgs we can combat people like these lady's.

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Quicksilver, I don't get your defense of this article. Of course bigcountry is not saying people should
trespass on these ladies land or poach. What bigcountry is talking about is blatant anti-hunter bias
in the article. It is plain as day.

As most lefties who cry about "Faux News" don't seem to understand, bias is not demonstrated by
out and out telling people they are wrong. It is done primarily in what stories are run (conservaties have
only recently been successful in forcing the media to examine stories via the internet which would have
been ignored), and by selective quotation, selective sourcing, etc. A skilled writer can pretend to be
objective, while being anything but.

It is beyond common knowledge that the editorial boards and reporters at most newspapers are very
liberal. In surveys, over 90% of reporters admit to being pro-abortion and voting Democrat. I'm sure
anti-hunting could be added to that over 90% number. These guys aren't "speaking truth to power,"
instead they are living in a liberal echo chamber. They have the power and the microphone and they
use it to further their beliefs. That is what people (who are biased by nature) do.

BTW, do you really think a true blue believer in animal rights (for example that believes it as bad as killing
a person), would think twice about lying or making stuff up to further their agenda? In their eyes, if a
lie saves a deer's life, then they probably feel that is the morally "right" thing to do.

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I agree that those hunters should not be trespassing on their land. On another point, they article says they consider the deer "their pets"?!?!?!?!? Are you frickin serious?? If anything these two people are numbing these deer to the dangers of the world and they become dependent on the hand feeding and petting!! They think they are helping "their" herd by doing this when in reality they are making the deer dependent on them and thus, hurting them. Agreed???

By the way...sounds like that paper sucks!!!

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No not really. The point I was trying to make was the non-hunters do believe this. Stories of deer running around with arrows sticking out of their head is not good PR for bow hunters.

Whether it's true or not, non-hunters think that most hunters trespass and shoot deer in the head based on the few articles they read each year.

Don't blame the newspaper blame the 5 % of the slob hunters thatgive the 95% of us bad names.

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I wasn't defending the article. I was just pointing out that BC was crying about how these evil lesbians were patrolling their property and blaspheming the hunting community. Meanwhile, all of which are things that they're well within their rights to do.He's on the right-wing extreme, soI waskindly pointing out the hypocrisy from that perspective.

Now, I'll defend the article.

I just don't see the anti-hunter bias.The author practically makes this lesbian couple out to be guerilla anti-hunting terrorist nutjobs. It's actually very well-written and comical in some respects.

First of all: Do you think the author had to point out that these women were lesbians? Nope. But shedid. Do you think they could've gotten a better picture of Enid and Lierra? Absolutely. But instead, the author chose to use the photo where Enid looks like a total psycho with wild eyes and crazy hair...and her girlfriend is wieldingsome kind of sledge hammer. Obviously,the authorwas trying to say "Seriously, what is this world comingto?" Look at these crazy people.

I liked how she pointed out that Enid talks to the deer, and calls them her "Sweeties." LMAO Another good nugget was when the author made a special note that Lierra is a crazy cat lady - with a home with a specially-designed catwalk for her feline friends.


This article definitelyisn't "anti-hunting" propaganda. It's a humorous article about two neurotic lesbians who have become obsessed with defending wildlife, and have pushed it to ridiculous limits. This wasn't an anti-hunting article. It was aJerry Springer episode in pen.We took a couple of whackos, pretended to beinterested in their plight, while we publicly made fun of them, and they were none-the-wiser.

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You make a good point quick for some readers,

Here is probably the worst part of the article:

"Which made it all the more traumatic to discover a shot-to-pieces doe dying in their gazebo one winter, to see a deer who'd lost an antler trying to dislodge the arrow in his side, to watch Stumpy, who still staggers gamely to the corn feeder out back even though part of his hind leg was shot off three years ago.

And Smiling Buck. After he was struck with an arrow in the side of the head, he took the better part of a year to die. The medicated apples helped for a while, but the infection kept flaring up. It was awful to see him standing there with a rivulet of pus flowing down his neck and that soft smile."

But, I don't think everyone will see it like you do and I'm not sure if the author meant it to be tongue in
cheek (especially if they don't know anything about hunting). Non-hunters could easily get some
horrible mental pictures out of this story and not realize it is over the top, and they could easily side
with the crazy lesbians who are defending these poor creatures against the brutal hunters.

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If I read correctly, they are only out for illegal hunting on their property ? no ?



"And Smiling Buck. After he was struck with an arrow in the side of the head, he took the better part of a year to die. The medicated apples helped for a while, but the infection kept flaring up. It was awful to see him standing there with a rivulet of pus flowing down his neck ...."

But , I must say THIS IS "F' g " wrong of them!! Yes, sorry the hunter took a really really bad shot or the buck jumped... but to let him slowly die over a year.. They are trash for this.. letting him suffer

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Could help but laugh. :D

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I wonder if they'll start a neighborhood leaf patrol to catch all the leaves coming off of the trees this fall so they don't suffer when they hit the ground?!? :D:D

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Man, this kind of "news" are freaking SICK!!!!!!!!!![:@][:'(][:o][&:]

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How you ever made it thru a college basket weaving program is beyond me. Totally clueless as usual.

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All i have to say is i feel sorry for their neighbor who bowhunts... He must get an EARFULL of bull crap from those two.

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adios bigcountry!! have a safe trip wherever!

Too bad you didnt know theonly tree huggers in the US live only in MD before you moved here LOL. sheesh

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did I hurt your MD pride? I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. Sheesh, andMD guysare sensitive too inMD.[8D]

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I know a few guys from maryland and they are big on anti hunting this way too, im not sure if theyre gay but they are a little on the fruity side

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Ok, I'm not going to bash homosexuals or vegans, although I disagree with both. The article is written with a definite slant. The overuse of adjectives in describing the wounded deer, the obvious lack of judgement in shot placement sighted, the lack of a counter opinion or factual statistics such as car/deer collisions all seem to be aimed at creating a negative image for hunters. It's sloppy journalism at best, but it's more like sensationalism. The sad thing is some of this bad press is earned. There has to be a grain of truth in order for it to be believeable. We all grouse on here about trespassers and having our gear stolen by fellow "Hunters". So if we, of the brotherhood, have complaints about our "compatriots" how much more so than people who have little or no understanding of hunting? Trespassing to hunt is wrong. Poaching is wrong. We can all stand behind these women on that, and a quote along those lines from a responsible hunter would have been a good addition in that article, but that wouldn't have fit the writers agenda, and to be frank was probably too much work anyway. Most journalists today are lazy. Too many times I've seen things reported that just a hint of research would have shown was erroneous. Most papers just parrot the AP and other news sources and pay a small staff of junior journalism grads, and aspiring authors, to fill the gaps with puff peaces like this. Quicksilver I agree the author went out of her (and not to be sexist but it definitely reads like a female author piece. I can imagine she went through a box of Kleenex writing it.) way to identify those things you mentioned. But what you don't realize is that in some circles, probably the target audience, these are badges of honor, not something to be laughed at. Notice the name dropping; Manhattan, Westminster, New York-based sales job, they have a well-to-do house and lifestyle. They are creative, designed their own house, tele commuters, they're green...they're hip. It screams "These are the good guys!" The editor who let this dribble pass should be ashamed.