thinkin
 

i'm new. i'm 14 from utah. what do you think when u kill a dere?

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I wana hunt but think it would be harde to shoot a dere is it sort of?

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its very challenging and can be very expensive....but the experience is worth it...just being out n what God has created whether you tag a deer or not its great just bein out there

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Those backstraps are going to be very tasty when they come off the grill.

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Welcome H!

I may be reading too much into your question, but I get the feeling you're concerned if the actual killing of the animal is going to bother you or not. Is it difficult to take the life of an animal? Not for me, but for some it is. Once you realize your place in nature's scheme of things, you can have peace with it. If you take the approach that you're now the only predator that can effectively and efficientlybalance the optimal number of animals that the land can sustain, you realize that through your actions, you actually help make sure that there are more deer than nature would allow/ provide for on it's own. It's a very personal thing. When I harvest a deer, there's always a small part of me that is sad that it has died. However, that deer always is remembered and cherished as long as I draw breath. It helps sustain my family, and in a round about way, helps me teach my children about life in general.A nice buck is always honored with a spot on my wall for his antlers and a story to share with anyone who I open my home to. Last, I wonder if you've ever considered what has to happen when you enjoy a nice hamburger, or some chicken or pork chops, when you sit down to dinner. If you think about it, this is one of the greatest lessons in life: something has to die everyday, just so I can eat. I hope I've helped answer your question.

GH

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That was well done.

I concur.

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I have to be honest I thought this was a peta setup with the nickname.

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seriously, i didn't even look at that until you mentioned it still could be though

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howcanyouhurtthem as a handle and Petahom as a last name?Looks kinda obvious to me

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Look at the screen name. Until I see photos with his(?) first deer, I won't be convinced otherwise.

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So did I!!! Other than that I beleive Grasshopper answered that question about as well as anyone could have. GJ GH!!!!!!!!!

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Ditto, I was thinking PETA before I even clicked on the thread. Good answer Grasshopper.

Ken

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I didn't consider that it might be someone from PETA. Really, it doesn't matter who asked the question...the answer is the same. I always try to answer this question in a respectful way. It's something I care deeply about.



GH

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AMEN!!!!!!! Grasshopper!!!!

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It's sad that so many humans think our species is not part of the natural order.

Even the most extreme vegan is still an animal killer. The home he occupies takes up space that wildlife once used and could still use. The very act of him living there prevents deprives animals of habitat. Even if he doesn't actively kill, he prevents animals from living.

If he drives a car, he has killed animals. The drilling/pumping/refining facilities, the gas stations, the streets and highways... Again, all taking up habitat. Even if he has never run over an animal with his vehicle, he is still participating in an activity that kills millions of animals every year. Not to mention the numerous insects he has to clean off the windshield. What does one of these folks think when a big ol' grasshopper squashes into a big yellow splotch on his windshield? I've never yet seen one pull off to the side of the road and hold a memorial service for the deceased. ;)

What does one think about all the animals that have died in agricultural operations? The farmers plowing their fields kill animals by the millions to bring vegans their salad fixin's.

It's a fact of life. If you live, there is blood on your hands. Even if you don't use animal products at all, animals die in order for you to live your 'civilized' life. There are people who choose to close off their minds to how they effect the natural world around them. They put animals on a pedestal and wonder how anyone could possibly desire to harm them, all the while having millions of animals slaughtered in their name.

Hunters are simply more attuned to the natural world. We recognize our place in the natural order. We recognize that without our aid, wild animal herds will die of disease and starvation if we allow them to overpopulate their increasingly limited habitat. We may feel a bit of sadness for each animal we kill, but we also know a quick bullet or arrow is far easier for the animals than weeks of suffering from starvation or sickness. We kill some so that others can live and be healthy.

Hunters know their place in the Circle of Life and actively participate in it.

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well said, what is peta

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Nice answers, Grasshopper & Arthur.

Yeah, I thought PETA (People for the Ehtical Treatment of Animals), too, when I saw the handle and read the question.

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Good answers grasshopper, arthur

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People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

Google it and read a little bit of their website, you will get the idea.

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I figured it wassarcasm.......:D

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I take my hat off to GRASSHOPPER AND ARTHUR P. Outstanding!!! You guys are a credit to all of us.

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In my mind, we are.
People who Eat Tasty Animals!

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omg that is funny thats going my signature.

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I did a search through Zaba and Whitepages.com for Petahom and got no hits.

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I think they need to change that screen name to, whydididropoutofschool

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Anyone else check that all of 'its' posts are the same? No doubt that this person--14 year old from Utah, not--is simply thinking that we are all a bunch of dumb red necks with no capacity for an intelligent response. Truth is, the only intelligent option is for there to be some from of managed predation, and we are the best option for that. Amazingly, many of these who are 'thinkin' like this aren't 'thinkin', but they are 'emotin'. If they ever did any 'thinkin', then they wouldn't ask such a dumb question. Newbie, do some real research, and check into all of the gated communities, national parks, subdivisions,etc. where there has been controlled hunts as opposed to the ones where people like yourself, who allow there emotions to rule them, and who are more affected by Bambi cartoons than real life situations that dictate some real measures that reflect reality as opposed to a fantasy dream that these populations will control themselves.
2 more points that I will make. If you have a legitimate question, then don't be so cowardly as to pose as something that you are not. Admit what you are and maybe we won't agree, but at least you can be respected for honesty. Secondly, if you dare advocate protecting animals , while simultaneusly support the destruction of human babies, aka abortion, then , you have zeromoral balance to submit any argument, seeing as that is the most hypocritical approach anyone can take.

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Well said

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You know, even if he is for PETA, he is the first oneI have seen man up and ask us what we think when we kill a deer. Most of them just go on mindless rants and lies about them. I personally, do feel a little bit of remorse for the deer when i shoot it, but I know that it will not go to waste and I just might have saved someone's life, say for exaple the deer crossed the road and the person swerved to miss it and lost control of the vehical. I also know that I am helping out the fact that the deer are over populated and could obtain disease and spread it through the whole herd. Personally, where I live almost everyone hunts except for a few that refuse to listen to anythingI say about why I hunt. These people dont realize that a kill isn,t everything about the hunt either, it's just a bonus, because for me getting out there and being close to God and being in nature and watching the animal is the biggest reward for me.It makes me mad as ever whenI hear of someone going out that has not practiced at all and not putting everything they can into retriving a deer and I think that is part of the hunting experience and if they dont do this, then they are not hunters in my mind.
Brent

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I agree very well stated!

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Last October I took my 12 year old Daughter on the Mo. Youth Hunt,when she shot a Doe I asked her how she felt about it.She said she was sad but enjoyed going out in the woods with me and enjoyed hunting.I told her it was a part of Life and the deer would be used for food and it would be treated with respect.She was ok with that and if she still wants to go hunting I will take her along with me,if she feels she doesn't like hunting I will respect her wishes and she can find some other hobby to do.

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Question for howcanyouhurtthem:

How do you feel when you order a hamburger for Mc Donalds knowing very well a Cow or Bull was slaughtered?

How do you feel when that Pet Store mouse passed away when you kept it in that glass cage and forgot to feed it?

How do you feel when you eat a Tuna Sandwich and someone caught and gutted that Tuna so you could eat?

How do you feel when that deadpet Gold Fish was flushed down the toilet because you didn't feed it either?

How do you feel when the last 2 post replies you made had several spelling errors in them?

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Taking any animal's life is always a big thing to me. It's a choice to pull the trigger that I willingly and gladdy make because I know when I sit down to eat the meat from that animal that it was taken quickly and humanly and treated with more respect than the cow or chicken that we eat every day. I know that when I cook a meal for friends and family I am proud that I am sharing a part of me with my friends or family.

Hunting to me goes much deeper than just killing an animal. Itmakes me feel connected to my ancestors who had to hunt to stay alive. Humans by nature are carnivores and hunters. Even people that purchase their meat or poultry are closet carnivores or hunters. They're kind of like the people the caveman who sits around the fire asking why we kill something but then gladly takes part in the feast after the animal has been processed into something that no longer has eyes and fur. But nine the less it was still a living and breathing animal.

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he probly misspelled words to make he/she look young and dumb like they probably think we are... when IMO true hunters such as most youll find on here have the upmost and highest morals of life than anyone i have ever met or known. Its not about taking the life of an animal its about the experience as well as everything else that was posted by the rest of us,i did not read into the thread on my first post nor pay any attention to the handle, but now that we have, notice he has not had anything else to say??

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You are right there BM on both accounts--deliberate misspelling to camouflage (couldn't resist) there true intentions and identity, and not returning to comment further---classic hit and run.

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I kinda wish they would hang around,maybe,just maybe they might actually learn something.



Reality is something these people have a hard time grasping and it would be nice to see a few of them around so they can get a dose of it.


Bambi IS NOT reality,it is a CARTOON.Cartoons humanize animalsand theyhave a hard time distinquishing between reality and cartoons.



I had my children watching discovery shows that showed lions killing their supper as far back as they can remember(real reality shows),that is how nature works.It is the naturall order of things.We are at the top of the food chain,no matter how much they would like that to change,that is the way it is and always will be.