Deer farming, breeder bucks whats it for?
 

whats the whole deal with raising breeder buck and farming deer whats the purpose for it??
High fences and ear tags...

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The demand for good genetics for the high fence operations is quite high,and the rest of the deer become venison for the commercial market. The venison in restaurants is farm raised. These same farms will sell you a large racked buck with good genetics for your high fenced operation. Besides where do you think all the deer urine you find on the shelves at your localsporting goods store comes from? It's all about the $$$$$$

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same reason people farm cattle.....to make money;)

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its all about that dash for the cash

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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Yeah, my brother in law raises deer. He has 10s of thousands invested. He is expecting to make some large $$. When there are high fence operations that will charge $10,000 for a 200" buck and there are shooters willing to pay to shoot a tame deer to hang on the wall, well, those pets have to come from somewhere!

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$10,000? Try $25,000. There are people here in Texas who will pay $10,000 to kill a 150" buck with a rifle. If you have 200"+ deer, you're looking at atleast $25,000+ per. It's a very big market in Texas. I see probably fifty high fence ranches on the 6 hour drive from my house to my property.

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Yeah, I was being very conservative! you are so right!

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God Bless Texas.......;) [:'(] [:-]

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As a hunting community.....why do some of us have a problem with this?

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Not only are they making money selling hunts and videos of the huntsbut there is a lot of money being made selling straws of sperm. If you think they make a lot on the hunts that is pennies compared to what they make for the sperm. We have a deer farm around here that my buddy does the taxidermy for and some of the straws of sperm go for $8,000 and up. They pump these deer like cows, freeze the sperm, and market it. Easy cash if you have the genetics. On top of that, each buck gets his own 10-20 does to breed. Lots of money to be made, millions in fact!!!

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All the world issues can be blamed on Texas[:-]:D

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I can't say anything about wife beating ,but as far as baiting, fences & the price of oil I think they have the market cornered.

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Sounds like the great Emu pyramid scheme. Pretty soon everyone will have big ole bucks
penned up so they can get a piece of the pie.

I just saw an ad for some "Still Steamin" buck semen.[:'(] It is in gel form, and is supposed to
be an attractant. I'm sorry, I'll take a pass on that one.

Anyone remember this:

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I don't know if Texas are to blame for world issues, but I will tell you this: if $hit ever hit the fan, everyone would be running to Texas for help because we got it all- self sustaining.

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Dude for the record I am headed to Alaska if it hits the fan[:-]

Texas will be the last place I go, I can see every resident lined up on the border with weapons armed. Your General Ted Nuget telling the troops.

"Whack and stack'em"

Texas is a great state, but not for me;)

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Hell you guys need help with the Mexicans remember the Alamo

And Tony Romo too .

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You dont watch much outdoor channel huh:DThose deer are breed for guys like ROGER RAGLIN!!!!!!, Jimmy Huston, Hank Parker... The list goes on... Pretty much any body that is loaded and wants to have some bragging rights;) Look at Samsons Ridge Outfitters... All there deer look like they came off a breeding farm... Hell they might be a breeding farm and once the deer get past there prime they charge some Dumb !@# $10,000 bucks to come shoot it

This is what deerr huntin has become...Everybody wants to kill a bigger deer that his buddy... So I'll pay for it... Look at ol Troy Gentry... Ready to ruin his carrier over having his name in the record books... Just goes to show you how a big trophy animal will make people think;)

Anybody want to start another ethics topic;)

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Not all deer farms are breeding top class shooter deer for so-called hunting pros to shoot. In fact many of you have heard of Sam Collora you know Mrs. Doe Pee. He raises deer for urine only I belive, as well as my father. However you need the good genetics to get any response. I think deer can distinguish dominance through the smell of urine. Therefore if you have a 4 1/2 yr. old buck that your collect pee from and he only scores say 50'', a true monster buck wont normally screw around with such an inferior buck. Only if hes after the same doe as this smaller buck he will chase him off, but normally wont go looking for a fight not worth while. Now if you collect urine from a 4 1/2 yr old that scores 150'' if theres a monster buck in the area he will look for this competetor in hopes of tearing him a new one and getting the estrous does to himself. I dont know if its proven but its my theory. Just like a big old booner will have that super strong musky smell to him, but a basket buck of the same age isnt as pungeont.
I think does are the same way. I hate to compare it this way but some women have an undesirable smell to them and some are welcoming. You can buy does all day long for a couple hundred dollars on deerfarmer website. However their are those good genetic does that bring in big $$. Last year my dad spent $5K each on 2 does, both lived less than3 months and died. Thats the way it works, you want good genetics you pay for them.
Now for hunting pen raised deer. Some do raise for that purpose. Our deer, (most of) you can litterally walk up and pet them. We will NOT sell any deer as shooters. Before a purchase is made my dad asks why they want the deer. If they are going to a hunt club even as breeders, deals off. Breeders become shooters over time and what would the challenge be w/ a deer that acts like the family dog.

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These are our collecting collecting bucks. They will only die of natural causes. The 10 pt. is 4 1/2, 8 pt with fork is 3 1/2, and the small 6pt, (now 8 pt) thats camera shy was born July of 06

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Can you say cha-ching!$$$$$$$$$$

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I was wrong about the Collora farm apparently they do use their deer in hunts.

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Anyone else getting the itch to start deer farming?

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Jackie's Deer Lures.

This is one of two show bucks we use for the live deer shows.

This buck is stalled up awaiting the TB/Brucillosis test results to return.

Tests are required by the state before we can transport to a different location.

These whitetail bucks are used to collect lure. Currently there are roughly 15 2-10 year old bucks on the farm.

This buck's name is Boss Hog. He's 7 years old. Bottle raised fawn by Jackie Barbour.

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This is another show buck, stalled up awaiting the TB/Brucillosis test results.

His name is Euing. He's 10 years old.

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I forgot to mention that Euing is another bottle raised fawn by Jackie.

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I dug up another pic of a deer that can't be used for jack squat. He's a flippin' bruiser!

The deer was found in a hay field, an abandoned fawn. The fella that kept him contacted the KY fish/game, acquired all permits and now has this monster. His name is...get this...."Bambi", he's 6 years old.

KY fish/game visits Bob on a regular basis. Looking at this buck would tell you why.

This buck can not be sold for profit. The deer is actually state property of KY.

Tell me that you couldn't get a pretty penny per straw of semen for this guy.

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Raising whitetail deer is a labor of love. You'll give more time to these animals than you have. It's full time, 365 days per year.

Whether you're collecting urine to formulate lure, or what ever your gig is, it takes more time than most are willing to give.

Don't cut the exotic rancher short. Not all of them sell to the game. Some have found a lucrative way to make an honest living and love what they do.

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thats how it should be i think urines and scents and stuff, not the "oh here comesthe big one up the trail, the onewe been huntin for weeks..." camera off, "ok bill let him out of the cage" camera on "THWACK" yeh thats not right