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my7pointmonster 08-17-2007 09:09 PM

Rage Vs. Bone
 
My problem with picking a broadhead is i dont know what will break that shoulder bone if i make a bad shot, So, my question is im shooting Ted Nugent Signature Series Goldtips, with 100 grain heads, 63 lbs Maxed out and 245 fps out of my Hoty Lazer tec, im proll gonna get a pack of the rage broadheads, do yall think in the event of a misplaced shot they will break that shoulder bone??
All help is appreciated... Idk how to figure out my Kenetic Energy ither...
Ryan

buckmaster 08-17-2007 09:14 PM

RE: Rage Vs. Bone
 
i would like to know the answer myself...

jmbuckhunter 08-17-2007 09:28 PM

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The best thing to do is stay away from that shoulder blade. I doubt most broadheads out there are gonna smash thru the shoulder blade on a regular basis. You might get it thru some thin spots, but they are pretty tuff. While butchering a doe one time I found a thunderhead all healed over, buried in her shoulder blade.



buckmaster 08-17-2007 09:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: jmbuckhunter

The best thing to do is stay away from that shoulder blade. I doubt most broadheads out there are gonna smash thru the shoulder blade on a regular basis. You might get it thru some thin spots, but they are pretty tuff. While butchering a doe one time I found a thunderhead all healed over, buried in her shoulder blade.


i know a similar story to that right accross the road from where i hunt,

A guy i know was huntin and shot a 10 pointer w/his bow and never foun the deer... the next year another guy shot him with a rifle practically out of his yard! went to church that sunday and gave him his broadhead and said, "this belong to you?" he ended being a 12 with a little change.

my7pointmonster 08-17-2007 09:45 PM

RE: Rage Vs. Bone
 

ORIGINAL: jmbuckhunter

The best thing to do is stay away from that shoulder blade. I doubt most broadheads out there are gonna smash thru the shoulder blade on a regular basis. You might get it thru some thin spots, but they are pretty tuff. While butchering a doe one time I found a thunderhead all healed over, buried in her shoulder blade.


My problem with picking a broadhead is i dont know what will break that shoulder bone if i make a bad shot, - me

See i said if i make a bad shot i know better than to shoot for the shoulder lol. I dont want to have what happened to that guy with the 10 point happen to me is all.
Ryan.

diehardhunter 08-17-2007 10:00 PM

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I dont have any experiance with rage on bone. Today I shot one of my rage heads. I shot them probably 30 times into my block and even missed it once. The head is still perfect I was kinda suprised they seem like a strong broadhead. Oh they also fly exactly like me field points and blew some huge holes through my block.

Die Hard

29 Days!

darbz18 08-17-2007 10:49 PM

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I just bought a pack of rage 2blade broadheads. From what i heard and again this is just talk the 2blade is stronger than the 3blade. But for pure bone breaking power i would go with something with a trocar tip. Like a muzzy or wasp. My brother put a muzzy three blade through a burn barrle with his mathews switchback.
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SwampCollie 08-18-2007 04:49 AM

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I think it has less to do with your broadhead and more to do with the speed/weight of your arrow as well as the size of your deer and exactly where you hit the shoulder.

There are set ups that will get through certain areas of a deer's shoulder, but for the most part its a crap shoot. There again, you know to avoid the shoulder anyway, so its really a 50/50.

It seems to me that you are really just trying to cancel out as many vairables as possible, which is good. Thats why I shoot Montecs, because the variable of what if it breaks, or is it tough enough is out the window... if anything on the tip of an arrow can get through, a Montec would be a safe bet. Thats just what I do. Not trying to sway you away from anything, because I have no vested interest in either. Just sharing what I have done.

my7pointmonster 08-18-2007 08:17 PM

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Thanks for the imput, i think im gonna go with those this year, heck i may not even see a deer to use them on.
Ryan.

Rick James 08-18-2007 09:19 PM

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Last year I shot 3 deer with the Rage 2 blades. 2 of them were quartering away hard and I hit the thin par of the shoulder blade on the far side. Both arrows were complete passthroughs. With that said, I don't think any head is going to consistently pass through the thick ridge on the shoulder blade. Your best bet for that is going to be a cut on contact 2 blade head like the stinger, certainly not a large diameter mechanical.

Nefarious12 08-19-2007 07:14 AM

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grim reaper without a doubt... rage are garbage.. they don't break the bone.. everyone thinks they are new and they aren't rocky mountain came out with the same one 10 years ago..

AR Bowhunter 08-19-2007 08:25 AM

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I think the impact from the misplaced arrow hitting the shoulder bone would knock the deer off balance before it would attempt to pass through. The arrow would then loose its energy.

annika3 08-19-2007 02:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: Nefarious12

grim reaper without a doubt... rage are garbage.. they don't break the bone.. everyone thinks they are new and they aren't rocky mountain came out with the same one 10 years ago..
Rage are garbage?

You just lost all credibility.



Nefarious12 08-19-2007 03:18 PM

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haha well lets just say they are not all they say they are... you want something that will break the bone in most cases they will not... they are just over priced for what u get cuz all these big name hunters are being paid big bucks to shoot them... if your shoot is that good that you'll never hit to far forward then good for ya shoot um...

diehardhunter 08-19-2007 05:08 PM

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I watched babe winkelmen shoot a bull elk in the shoulder blade with Rage 2 bladea while ago. The guide was pissed and didnt think they would find the bull but they found him after a short bloodtrail.

Die Hard

27 Days!

jamaltwy 08-19-2007 06:39 PM

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if yourworried of deflection on bone just go with cut on contact heads strikers, montecs, muzzy, thunderheads, zwicky, magnus, to name a few!!!

WhitetailArchery369 08-21-2007 12:21 AM

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yea my pop butchers for a living and found several broadheads throughout a deer body

rankbull 08-21-2007 11:31 AM

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I shoot Montecs and am confident that the shoulder blade would not stop it. But I have a lot of KE and momentum behind my tribute.;)

SwampCollie 08-21-2007 11:46 AM

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The long and the short of it is... don't hit the shoulder in the first place. Wait for a good shot... follow through... and collect some venison.

Nothing except a well built bullet from a suitable caliber is going to get THROUGH the shoulder(s) of a deer EVERY SINGLE TIME. With an arrow... just avoid it all together.

Shoot whatever broadhead you please.... they will all get the job done. There are times it might be nice to have a cut on contact, small diameter, like if you hit the shoulder... and times that it would be nice to have a super large cutting diameter... if you hit too far back you'll have a better chance of catching a main vein/artery. You just need to find what is going to shoot well off your bow, make sure it is tuned. PRACTICE! Pick your shots.... as Matt says "Trust the Float" and you'll come out just fine.

LittleChief 08-21-2007 11:54 AM

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I don't know anything about the Rage broadhead, but I have a lot of faith in my 125 grain Montecs (backed up by 80 ft lbs of KE) to help me out if I make that mistake. I'll do my best to avoid the shoulder blade though. There's a lot of room for a good kill shot behind that bone.

BowHunterJim 08-21-2007 12:48 PM

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the best thing to do is not not hit bone but if u do ur going to want a cut on contack like a muzzy

RTA47 08-21-2007 03:07 PM

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The long and the short of it is... don't hit the shoulder in the first place. Wait for a good shot... follow through... and collect some venison.
Exactly! Don`t aim for the shoulder no matter what head your using! Rage, Muzzy ect. Even if you take a few deer hitting them in the shoulder sooner or later its going to cost you.


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