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Oh man, i lay down for a nap and all of this!! haha

You all know where i stand on the situation ;)I dont have time to keep reading all of this. Im off to the Kenny Chesney concert! :D

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I'm not sure I understand the point to this thread? It's almost like class envy. Yes location is a big factor in the frequency of killing big bucks when comparing apples to apples. I think most would, and have agreed about that. So if that is excepted what is the point of the thread? To convince those who live in good areas they aren't as good of hunters as they think? What's the point in that? They do take advantage of the areas they are in and I don't think that can be said of every hunter in great deer country. I'm sure there are plenty of hunters in Big Buck areas that couldn't find a big buck if it was tied to a tree. There are also hunters who don't do all the right things all the time to make it happen. So they do have a level of competence above the average, even for their area, but not necessarily for this site, although some may be light years ahead of the average hunter on this site, I don't know. But, again, what is the point? If all that is true and accepted, what difference does it make? What difference will it make in how YOU hunt? If the success of others, and their resulting attitudes/assumptions/comments grate your nerves that much.....well then you're just giving others too much control in your life. If it matters that much then do something about it and go hunt where big bucks are like many others do. If it doesn't matter THAT much then why post this at all?

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BTW I live in an area with decent bucks but nowhere like out west. I've seen maybe a dozen BIG bucks and, to be honest, blown most of my opportunities or they were close-but-not-close-enough. So I'm not defending my record. LOL

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Where did I say that? "I don't shoot big deer because of where I live" Is that not true? You have posted it many many times.

You enjoy hunting100% for sure. You love to whine about others for some reason. Example I will never shoot the deer Wolfen68 shoots. Matter of time and I do not have it. I also don't care what Wolfen, Buckeye, Hunsucker, Shed33 or anyone else shoots. Go check your post I have done nothing but made nice comments when you post a deer you have taken. In this very thread I have said you are 100% correct. Where we differ I do not post thread after thread of why I do not kill a certain type of deer.

Like you I have hunted high pressure areas, Northern MI is one of the toughest place to shoot a deer. Do you think I wait for 140'' buck;) Nope 100'' is great.

Why am I hunting in Ohio and KY this year instead of N. Michigan? I want to try and shoot a booner. I am hunting where the booners are. Yes they are on my farm, but my odds are better in Ohio. Therefore I am willing to pay the $ for a lease to give it a go. Some are not I understand.

You are happy we know, I know if we met in a bar we would talk hunting all day long. We would agree on 99.9% of things.

You post the same tired dribble post after post. Funny you want guys to leave you alone about what you kill, but you want to cheapin their kills by posting it is all about location.

You know what it is, its about location and hard work. Same damn thing you do for your deer.

We have had some debate on this subject. I do not recall ever telling you to shoot "a" type ofdeer, some guys do, so what. If you are happy than be happy. You are proud of your deer you shoot which is why you have some mounted, take pictures, and write a wonderful thread about deer you have taken.

So I am willing to meet in the middle, lets just be happy.

Atlas I am happy for you, now I promise my daughter to take her to the water park.

Good hunting. If you want to hunt Ohio let me know. I even told everyone else I know, no, but for you anytime and bring your dad. Rybo is coming over my house for dinner next weekPM him about my cooking;)

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Doesn't get any clearer then that.

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http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/search.aspx

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Talondale, I agree with you.What is the point? Everyone knows that you can only kill what exists,and the liklihood of killing big bucks is proportionate to the amount of them that exist in any particular area.
This is not nuclear physics!
Now why is it that certain area's hold a greater percentage of big bucks than others.Onlya fewreasons come to mind,Game department management,where seasons are shorter,and firearms use is more limited,and buck tags are restricted.Private land Trophy management.Area's that are extremely vast,where the animals are protected by the effort needed to get to them.Lastly would be hunter discipline.
Not all area's of the country will have the same potential but any one of the above will lead to the biggest bucks an area can support.
There is no point to this though!This is common knowledge to everyone here.

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Thanks for saving me the trouble of writing it all out--my thoughts exactly! I need to go talk to my therapist to find out why I read all of this!:D

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You have to work.............I'll leave it at that ;)

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TSOC, also mineral content/ph of the soil has a lot to do with it too. That's why most of the "Big Buck States" also happen to be in the "Corn Belt". The dark rich soil gives the plants there more nutrients and thus there is more available for the deer. I think there's a map somewhere that will show you the location of all the P&Y or B&K bucks taken on record and you can see which areas have more taken than others. Pretty interesting.