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killadoe 08-08-2007 02:18 PM

Snake Bitten????
 
Who has ever been bitten by a snake, if so what kindand what all happend? Or if you know someone who has, let us know their experience. Also do any of you guys wear snake boots?

Jim_IV 08-08-2007 02:26 PM

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i do now, i was giuiding a quail hunt three years ago for a family friends ranch and got bit by a rattler. thank god it was a dry bite, the flew me out to the hospital in courpus christi and made sure i was ok. i have worn snake boots ever since. i was hit twice last year on the boot hunting on my roommatesland inMcCookTx. not in the same day but in the same month. scared the crap out of me. killed both of those rascles. they dont always rattlecontrary to belief.[&:]

Rookie Bowhunter 08-08-2007 02:30 PM

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I was bitten and it was painful, not venomous though, but still hurt like hell:D

From this other site...http://www.emedicinehealth.com/snakebite/page5_em.htm#Snakebite%20Treatment

Take the following measures:
[ul][*]Prevent a second bite or a second victim. Snakes can continue to bite and inject venom with successive bites until they run out of venom.[*]Identify or be able to describe the snake, but only if it can be done without significant risk for a second bite or a second victim.[*]Safely and rapidly transport the victim to an emergency medical facility unless the snake has positively been identified as harmless (nonvenomous). Remember, misidentification could be fatal. A bite without initial symptoms can still be dangerous or even fatal.[*]Provide emergency medical care within the limits of your training.

[ul][*]Remove constricting items on the victim, such as rings or other jewelry, which could cut off blood flow if the bite area swells.[*]If you are in a remote area in which transport to an emergency medical facility will be prolonged, you should apply a splint to the affected limb. If you do apply a splint, remember to make sure the wound does not swell enough to make your splint a tourniquet, cutting off the blood flow. Check to make sure toes and fingers are still pink and warm, that the limb is not going numb, and that pain is not getting worse.[*]If you have been bitten by a dangerous elapid and have no major local wound effects, you may apply a pressure immobilizer. This technique is mainly used for Australian elapids or sea snakes. Wrap a bandage at the bite site and up the extremity with a pressure at which you would wrap a sprained ankle. Then immobilize the extremity with a splint, with the same precautions concerning limiting blood flow. This technique may help prevent life-threatening systemic effects of venom, but may also worsen local damage at the wound site if significant symptoms are present there.[*]While applying mechanical suction (such as with a Sawyer Extractor) has been recommended by many authorities in the past, it is highly unlikely that it will remove any significant amount of venom, and it is possible that suction could actually increase local tissue damage.[/ul] [*]The two guiding principles for care often conflict during evacuation from remote areas.
[ul][*]First, the victim should get to an emergency care facility as quickly as possible because antivenom (medicine to counteract the poisonous effects of the snake’s venom) could be life-saving.[*]Second, the affected limb should be used as little as possible to delay absorption of the venom.[/ul][*]A number of old first aid techniques have fallen out of favor. Medical research supports the following warnings:

[ul][*]Do NOT cut and suck. Cutting into the bite site can damage underlying organs, increase the risk of infection, and does not result in venom removal.[*]Do NOT use ice. Ice does not deactivate the venom and can cause frostbite.[*]Do NOT use electric shocks. The shocks are not effective and could cause burns or electrical problems to the heart.[*]Do NOT use alcohol. Alcohol may deaden the pain, but it also makes the local blood vessels bigger, which can increase venom absorption.[*]Do NOT use tourniquets or constriction bands. These have not been proven effective, may cause increased tissue damage, and could cost the victim a limb.[/ul] [/ul]

robbcayman 08-08-2007 03:02 PM

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I hunt in S.E. Oklahoma and during most hunting season we don't have problems with rattlers since they go under rocks during the cooler season.

However, one our friends who lives near our hunting properties was riding his 4 wheeler (during the summer) and was bitten by a rattler. Long story short, he fell off the 4 wheeler into a ditch and died. Sadly, his body was recovered a month later as where we hunt as well over a million acres of wooded land. Very sad deal, and I felt very sorry for his wife.

nothinspecial 08-08-2007 03:20 PM

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I was bitten on the top of my foot as a kid by a non venomous snake.

2 years ago on opening weekend of turkey season here in TN, i was struck by a copperhead that I stepped on while trying to slip around a thicket to setup on a gobbler that I had comin' my way, my snake boots prevented the bite.

pm69442 08-09-2007 02:17 PM

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I got hit by a baby cottonmouth when I was 14----1 fang on the little finger of my right hand. A week in the hospital, minus 1 finger, scars all over my right hand where the swelling busted my skin---I'm left handed now.(which is ok--I'm left eyed dominant anyway!)
Wear snake boots and DO NOT stick your hands into, under, over, or thru anything that you don't know what's on the other side. But that was 42 years ago and I"m sure that medical procedures have improved since then!

LebeauHunter 08-09-2007 02:30 PM

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A guy at our camp dropped a rifle shell out of his stand. When he got down to get it he got
bit by a copperhead on the finger. It was bad. Hospital, black finger, arm and hand so swollen
he couldn't use it. He lost some movement and feeling in that finger.

No, don't wear the boots, too uncomfortable. I'm more scared of ground hornets than snakes.

indianahunter83 08-09-2007 02:47 PM

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Do NOT use ice. Ice does not deactivate the venom and can cause frostbite.
But it will decrease the blood flow to say your finger if you got bit there hence cutting down on the spread of poison. Also if you allow yourself to get frostbite from icing down a bite then you might want to get checked for mental problems as well while you are at the hospital!:D

bryant1 08-09-2007 02:54 PM

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Iknow a 14 yr.girl and a guy who were bitten byground rattlers(Pygmy). The girl was bitten 3 yrs ago trying to catch adeer dog. She was bitten on the hand, and here father told her it probably wasn't a snake,because it just look like a bee sting (she wasn't totally sure it was a snake).2 hrs later they are rushing her to the ER, trying to get anti-venom in her, while her arm was swelling up and turning black.The gut i know was moving firewood and the snakewas able to bite him twice, in the hand and the arm. He went directly to theER and sat in the hospital for 5 days. His hand and arm was so swollen and black it look like it was out of a comic book. Both lived with no damage

MILLERTIME10 08-09-2007 03:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: robbcayman

I hunt in S.E. Oklahoma and during most hunting season we don't have problems with rattlers since they go under rocks during the cooler season.

However, one our friends who lives near our hunting properties was riding his 4 wheeler (during the summer) and was bitten by a rattler. Long story short, he fell off the 4 wheeler into a ditch and died. Sadly, his body was recovered a month later as where we hunt as well over a million acres of wooded land. Very sad deal, and I felt very sorry for his wife.
Ya, I am also in SE Oklahoma working in the oil field. We have Copperheads and Rattlers show up on location all the time. They are attracted to the vibration of the rig, and the heat in the cool spring and fall months. Here is a picture of a Timber Rattler I found dead on the road 2 months ago, sure wouldn't want to meet up with this guy walking through the woods:







Mundt 08-09-2007 03:21 PM

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I'm sure glad I hunt in WI and don't have to worry about them. I've never liked snakes.

NCSportsman 08-09-2007 03:23 PM

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The only good snake is a dead one!

LebeauHunter 08-09-2007 03:23 PM

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They don't have any snakes in Hawaii, but I'm not to sure about the hunting there.[8D]

They are fanatic about killing and capturing snakes since they could wipe out their birds.

LebeauHunter 08-09-2007 03:27 PM

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Here's a big moccasin from near our woods last year. Excuse the dirty 22, it isn't mine.


m9a9g9i9c 08-09-2007 03:59 PM

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I never got bitten by a poisonous snake but several times by phytons and boas, which doesn't kill you but they have more than 60 small sharp needle like theeth and the are placed backwards, so you need to push your hand further in and have a screwdriver or a plastic board to prevent the theeth from going in again.
And then you either get sick from the infection or from the antibiotics they pump into you for three weeks.....
I got bitten by poneys, yaks, deer (yes ) austriches, geese, ducks, an owl or two, gecko's, saddle billed storks, ibis, cerval cats, pumas,ocelot and civet, quatisand most of them crapped on me as well, some say I'm lucky, I don't know why.....[:'(]

But I still like animals......

F.

Beezer 08-09-2007 05:52 PM

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I was walking outside past the driver's side of the car and saw this going under the passenger side when I got to the back of the car. 15 minutes later and my wife, son and two yapping dogs would have been walking out. We've promptly ordered another set of snake boots.

Bad pic, this is after two hits with birdshot from a 12gauge. It's a Timber or Canebreak Rattlesnake as they're called in South Carolina. Three rattles and a button on this one, it's a baby. My only fear is that momma and daddy are still out there somewhere.





Sportsfann 08-09-2007 05:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: LebeauHunter

A guy at our camp dropped a rifle shell out of his stand. When he got down to get it he got
bit by a copperhead on the finger. It was bad. Hospital, black finger, arm and hand so swollen
he couldn't use it. He lost some movement and feeling in that finger.

No, don't wear the boots, too uncomfortable. I'm more scared of ground hornets than snakes.
I hate snake, but have to wear the boots here. Chippawa snake boots a very comfortable, and are also waterproof.

robbcayman 08-09-2007 07:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: MILLERTIME10


ORIGINAL: robbcayman

I hunt in S.E. Oklahoma and during most hunting season we don't have problems with rattlers since they go under rocks during the cooler season.

However, one our friends who lives near our hunting properties was riding his 4 wheeler (during the summer) and was bitten by a rattler. Long story short, he fell off the 4 wheeler into a ditch and died. Sadly, his body was recovered a month later as where we hunt as well over a million acres of wooded land. Very sad deal, and I felt very sorry for his wife.
Ya, I am also in SE Oklahoma working in the oil field. We have Copperheads and Rattlers show up on location all the time. They are attracted to the vibration of the rig, and the heat in the cool spring and fall months. Here is a picture of a Timber Rattler I found dead on the road 2 months ago, sure wouldn't want to meet up with this guy walking through the woods:






That is a good sized snake!!! I am going to scout that area in 3 weeks and I am a little concerned about those guys. I normally go down in Novemeber and don't think twice about them. Are snake boots really uncomfortable?

Natural 08-12-2007 09:52 AM

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I knew I shouldn't of opened this thread!

AR Bowhunter 08-12-2007 02:11 PM

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I was bitten by a copperhead when I was in the fourth grade. That was about 32 years ago an still can recall it like it was yesterday. The snake did not havealot ofvenom in it. My leg swelled up real bad an Icould feel the place where I was bitten for about 10 years.

mjhamel 08-12-2007 02:28 PM

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I have read a lot lately on what to do when bit by a poisonous snake. I am planning on doing a solo mule deer hunt in western Nebraska and am just wondering what the proper procedure would be if I was bitten out in the middle of nowhere by myself. Do I risk walking back to the truck to get to the hospital for anti-venom, or do I sit tight and hope that I can signal or call for help?

m00sedrool 08-12-2007 02:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: Natural

I knew I shouldn't of opened this thread!
So I'm not the only one lifting their feet off the floor as I scroll through this darned thread?

I hate snakes!

pyclub1 08-12-2007 03:41 PM

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Hey mundt we have rattle snakes here in WI.. I have seen them and my cousin in trempeleau killed a couple while building his house a few years ago.. They have some mounted in the DNR station in Eau Claire that were killed over the years in WI.. I have never been bit by one but am kinda nervous about going out to WY this fall for antelope.. The area I am hunting has quite a few, so I am told... Hopefully wont see or even hear any... Will be buying snake boots before I go..Uncomfortable or not...

AR Bowhunter 08-12-2007 03:42 PM

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Do not get excited, slow walk, avoid anything that caused the blood to flow faster. It would be a plus to apply pressurethe joint above where you were bitten but do not cut off the circulation. Apply ice if you have any get medical attention as soon as possible. Always keep a cell phone with you if you are hunting be yourself, notify someone of your condition alonewith the type of snake. Have them to get medical assistance started an have someone coming to your aid.

Oneshot7 08-12-2007 04:21 PM

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I wear them everytime. I have never been bitten but have come way to close for comfort to copperheads, watermocosins, canebreak rattlers, and even a coral snake. Then you have the black snakes that scare the bejesus out of you.

ericstacy 08-12-2007 04:37 PM

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Oh yeh: Bitten by Cotton mouth on the knuckles. Funny thing was I had boots on and tripped forward into the grass. When I pulled my hands up he was attached to my finger. Fangs went right through the surface skin and never made it into the bloodstream. Recovery was full with little discomfort. Wear your boots...we have many snakes on our property. Rattlesnakes, Copperheads, Coral , Pigmy and Cotton Mouths. Seen them all. Heres a smaller Cotton Mouth I am playing with by camp.

Be careful.

ericstacy 08-13-2007 03:15 PM

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One Less!


SteveO KanevO 08-13-2007 03:26 PM

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I was actually bitten by a kingsnake this weekend. I've caught alot of snakes (rat snake, chicken snake, water snake, copperhead, puff adder, garter snake, grass snake, black racers.) I usually try to catch em when I see 'em lol. Instead of kill them especially the kings cause they eat copperheads and cotton mouths or water mocasins. I have been bitten by most of them exceptthe posionous ones and I have heard that it can still make you sick but I never experienced any ill side effects. I love the picture of the the snake shot with a bow. I have done that before but he was on the move and it took way more than one shot. Haha. I dont wear snake boots only rubber boots no insulation........what can I say.....my feet get hot and it cuts down on scent distribution.

the bees knees 08-13-2007 04:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: SteveO KanevO

I was actually bitten by a kingsnake this weekend. I've caught alot of snakes (rat snake, chicken snake, water snake, copperhead, puff adder, garter snake, grass snake, black racers.) I usually try to catch em when I see 'em lol. Instead of kill them especially the kings cause they eat copperheads and cotton mouths or water mocasins. I have been bitten by most of them exceptthe posionous ones and I have heard that it can still make you sick but I never experienced any ill side effects. I love the picture of the the snake shot with a bow. I have done that before but he was on the move and it took way more than one shot. Haha. I dont wear snake boots only rubber boots no insulation........what can I say.....my feet get hot and it cuts down on scent distribution.
Are you aware that puff adders are found in Africa and Africa only?:eek:
You must be thinking of another snake... unless your from Africa.[&:]

SteveO KanevO 08-14-2007 06:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: the bees knees


ORIGINAL: SteveO KanevO

I was actually bitten by a kingsnake this weekend. I've caught alot of snakes (rat snake, chicken snake, water snake, copperhead, puff adder, garter snake, grass snake, black racers.) I usually try to catch em when I see 'em lol. Instead of kill them especially the kings cause they eat copperheads and cotton mouths or water mocasins. I have been bitten by most of them exceptthe posionous ones and I have heard that it can still make you sick but I never experienced any ill side effects. I love the picture of the the snake shot with a bow. I have done that before but he was on the move and it took way more than one shot. Haha. I dont wear snake boots only rubber boots no insulation........what can I say.....my feet get hot and it cuts down on scent distribution.
Are you aware that puff adders are found in Africa and Africa only?:eek:
You must be thinking of another snake... unless your from Africa.[&:]
That was a really long time ago and thats what my dad told me it was because it flattened itself out. It wasnt a long snake maybe 1.5 feet and if I remember right it was sandy colored with a short head and dark markings on its back. I caught it in Florida near Land O' Lakes. Ifpuff addersare from Africa strickly then I suppose that the pythons in the Everglades are native to that area also. HA. I dont really remember what it was but thats what I was told, now that I think of it, maybe it was like a pygmy hog snake or something. I dunno someone tell me so I can be corrected. I kind of like to keep up with stuff like that. Once again I think I said this is another posting but that picture is the coolest. See ya'll

SteveO KanevO 08-14-2007 06:54 AM

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[/align][/i]any of several venomous snakes of the viper family, Viperidae, and the death adder, a viperlike member of the cobra snake family, Elapidae. The name adder may also be applied to certain other snakes, such as the hognose snake (q.v.[/i]), a harmless North American species. Among the adders of the viper family are included the common adder (Vipera berus[/i]), the puff adders (several species…[/align]Nevermind. I stand corrected. Im retarded...I know....Hognose Snake.[>:][/align]

the bees knees 08-14-2007 07:30 AM

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I didnt do that to try and make you feel stupid, its just ignorance. Im tring to help teach you something you apparently didnt know, thats all. No offense intended. Just educating. While some harmless snakes in North America are called "Adders", The "Puff Adder" a short stocky snake, highly venomous, I think its the Most deadly snake in Africa (not sure though), Is found in Africa and the Arabian Peninsula only.






WARedBear 08-14-2007 07:32 AM

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Yes, you were referring to a hognose snake. Very harmless and fun to play with. They will flatten themselves out and sway back and forth like a cobra when messed with. Once they realize they can't scare their attacker off they suck in their gut and flop over on their back and play dead. You flip him over and he will flip back over....leave me alone...can't you see I'm dead. They have to be the only "fun" snake out there.

Carefull Hunting
Reid

WARedBear 08-14-2007 07:35 AM

Bitten By Decapitated Rattlesnake!!!!
 
Decapitated rattlesnake bites man near Tri-Cities 11:27 AM PDT on Thursday, August 9, 2007 Associated Press PROSSER, Wash. -- Apparently, even a dead snake can bite. A man says he was bitten by the decapitated head of a rattlesnake on his property in Prosser, Washington, near the Tri-Cities.
File Photo
Western rattlesnake
[/align] Danny Anderson and his son saw the five-foot rattler Monday evening while feeding horses. They pinned it with a pipe and cut off its head with a shovel.
When Anderson reached down to pick it up, he says the snake head twisted around and bit his index finger. In the ten minutes it took to reach Prosser Memorial Hospital, the venom spread through his body and his tongue had already started to swell. He was treated with shots at the hospital.
State Fish and Wildlife Department biologist Mike Livingston says it's possible the snake had the heat-sensing ability to make one last attack or it may have been a reflex.

GRIZZLYMAN 08-14-2007 07:42 AM

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Never been bit, but have come real close a couple of times. I always wear snake boots in early fall and spring hunting, regardless of comfort. But the times I have almost been bitten had to do with having my hands on the ground, and not seeing a snake (copperhead and pygmy rattler) nearby.

Chipcz 08-14-2007 07:50 AM

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Hunting along the apalachian trail in PA 4C, I just stumbled onto my 2nd rattlesnake in 2 weeks. The 2nd guy was a real python. Huge compared to the first 1 last week. 1st snake was about 3 feet long, the 2nd was almost 5 and was thicker than my arm. PA timer rattlers are calm and don't really bite. Had to harass both of them to see a rattle. Cool stuff.



SteveO KanevO 08-14-2007 08:10 AM

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Dude, I was following you on what you were saying. I was just messing with you. However, it is hard to actually distinguish how someone means to say something in a forum. I looked up that info at the Encyclopedia site so its good to go. But back to the python thing I stated in my other post. People like freak out and when they hear news about foreign snakes in the united states. "How did this get here? Is there an epidemic?" ya blah blah. It annoys me so bad because then the media gets involved. Look somebody that owned one as a pet let it loose or it escaped its cage. Big whoop[:@]. Sorry the media makes me mad as well as most news reports in general.[&:]

ericstacy 08-14-2007 12:03 PM

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Hognose or "Puff Adder"
If disturbed by a predator, these snakes have several ways to defend themselves. First, they will inflate their necks to look bigger, and they will hiss loudly and strike. When they do this, they very much resemble cobras, which we do not have in our area.

Eric

SteveO KanevO 08-14-2007 12:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: SteveO KanevO

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[/align]Nevermind. I stand corrected. Im retarded...I know....Hognose Snake.[>:]
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WARedBear 08-14-2007 12:47 PM

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Another thing about the hog nose snake that I forget to mention is that they also rattle their tail when they are flattened out. This helps in their guise to be a bigger badder meaner snake. In reality they are the most cowardly snake.


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