RE: jumping the string
 

dick_cress said it all, shoot the lower third and you will do well, string jump or not! I watched a show this past week where they covered every concievable ethical angle of shooting a deer and they drove in the point of shooting the lower third of the animal. This show was great, they explained every angle, where to aim, they still framed deer in real hunting videos, showed the thirds of the deer, the proper aim point and then the shot, when they didn't jup the string it was a heart/double lung everytime, and if they jumped the string it was a double lung every time. Great show.

The Tazman aka Martin Price
Founder and President of
Virginia Disabled Outdoorsmen Club

RE: jumping the string
 

Tazman, I wish I had seen that show. It's sounds like a good one.

Certainly some bows are quieter than others and some faster than others. But they all have the potential to spook a game animal such that the animal will attempt to jump the string in many situations.

Dick_cress, I also shoot an FX and have had lots of remarks about how quiet it is. However, I have still had a couple deer attempt to jump. Fortunately I was close enough that they didn't have time to react severely.

The fast bows of today result in less opportunity for string jumping. Yes, sound travels at about 1100 fps, which is about 4X faster than arrows from today's typical compound. But there is certainly reaction time to consider. Take it to an extreme for demonstration purposes - suppose the deer is just 1 yard away. No matter how fast it can react, it's movement will be negligible by the time the arrow reaches it (whether it hears the sound or sees the movement).

Now, somewhere there is a grey zone where the deer will be able to react fast enough. Each shooter must determine what range that is and keep to shots that provide for maximum potential success.

As with many threads on topics similar to this, there are numerous opinions, and most of them are right. It's just that there seems to be numerous 'subtopics' in which people are supporting their own views. This is good!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

RE: jumping the string
 

Hello,

If any of you out there remember the early Wenzel bro's video's. The rule of thumb was-0-18 yards they don't duck the arrow.From 18-35 yards they duck the arrow consistantly,therefore if shooting at that range aim the lower third of the deer.After 35 yards they seem to not duck the arrow as redily.

[Deleted]
 

[Deleted by Admins]

RE: jumping the string
 

well,i do know nothing about tjhis thread,it was a good learn tho.

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI

RE: jumping the string
 

I wonder what the percentage would be of hunters who said the deer jumped the string (when they actually shot over the back)? 70%?<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

>>>---Doug--->

RE: jumping the string
 

How many of you aim low then find the deer with the hole in his lungs? Reflex reaction is much faster than most of you give credit for. Think about your own reflexes. They are not measured in half seconds but milli-seconds.

As long as arrows fly slower than the speed of sound deer will have time to jump the string. Ever seen a deer jump a rifle shot? It is unheard of. (No pun intended <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) In fact, my dad shot an elk with a 50 cal muzzle loader in the heart. That bull ran 150 yards without a heart all on reflex.

RE: jumping the string
 

I think string jumping has way more to do with the animal than the bow. If the animal is standing alert and looking/listening in your direction, he is probably going to drop the instant you touch the trigger. As some have said, you might still hit them, but the chances of a bad hit or miss are much greater.

I have hunted many times with little or no silencing equipment on my bow and if the animal is relaxed, they don't move before the arrow gets there.

I let the animal determine how I aim also. If a deer catches movement or hears me draw and goes on alert. I aim at the lower 1/3 and wait for the head bob to release. If deer is still relaxed when I reach full draw, I aim dead center.

RE: jumping the string
 

A deer I shot this year jumped the string at 22 yards(I walked it off) I thank goodeness was shooting the lower third of her, I did make one mistake though on this shot, she had both her front legs side by side, so when she ducked she not only went down, but back, the arrow hit the very end of her shoulder blade and deflected into her spine right over the tip of the shoulder blade. She dropped like a ton of lead bricks. Next shot like this I will(If I can)wait until she swings the near leg forward, or if they are side by side shoot an inch or 2 further back.

The Tazman aka Martin Price
Proud father of a Devil Dog

RE: jumping the string
 

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
I think string jumping has way more to do with the animal than the bow. If the animal is standing alert and looking/listening in your direction, he is probably going to drop the instant you touch the trigger. As some have said, you might still hit them, but the chances of a bad hit or miss are much greater.

I have hunted many times with little or no silencing equipment on my bow and if the animal is relaxed, they don't move before the arrow gets there.

I let the animal determine how I aim also. If a deer catches movement or hears me draw and goes on alert. I aim at the lower 1/3 and wait for the head bob to release. If deer is still relaxed when I reach full draw, I aim dead center.
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

AMEN Stickemup!!! Exactly!
A deer definitely has the ability to jump the string, no matter how fast your bow is. Does that mean you will miss? Not neccesarily. Take all the factors into consideration, before taking your shot. Good judgement will usually lead to a good shot and clean kill. And yes, a quiet bow always helps lessen the chance of it happening.