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brucelanthier 08-02-2007 10:44 AM

Long range second shot Pt.2
 
You are in your treestand and a deer stops 13 yds away. You do everything right but the deer jumps forward just as you shoot. You KNOW the arrow hit 6-8 inches back, not the best shot. The deer runs aways away and stops. You range it with your rangefinder atXX yds. The deer is broadside again and in a clear lane. If you would attempt a second shot what is the maximum range you feel confortable shooting?

GR8atta2d 08-02-2007 10:51 AM

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Any shot at a wounded deer ,that can be taken safely, is a good one!

huntingson 08-02-2007 10:51 AM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 
It's already got a lethal wound so what have you got to lose? I would try out to 80 probably, but luckily I have never had to do that. The only second shot I have ever had to make was at 20 yards.

Jim_IV 08-02-2007 10:52 AM

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i would say fourty. you have already messed up so why take a shot passed that. you have already hit the deer and even if its that far back he will expire

Finch 08-02-2007 10:54 AM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 
Good question. In these circumstances I would sling another arrow at 50 yards max. I am fairly accurate and confident at that range.I definitely would hold my pin dead on the heart in case the deer dropped down to leap away.

However, the deer knows something is up and a longer shot such as that may enable him the jump the string. Depends on the bow and shooter I guess. The deer is bound to die but a second arrow would end his/her misery alot sooner.

I dunno...thats a tough one. Its one of those executive decisions that would have to be made at that time.



brucelanthier 08-02-2007 10:55 AM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 

ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d

Any shot at a wounded deer ,that can be taken safely, is a good one!
Agreed. Part of my practice routine is to take the first shot of the days practice at 20 or less and then pick a longer range for the second shot. 45 yards is my max for the second shot. I was just curious at other folks self limitations.

goos_blues 08-02-2007 10:57 AM

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It depends whether or not a think the deer is going to lay down. If a deer is out there 50 0r 60 yards and going to lay down, I would just leave it.

stevezt4 08-02-2007 10:58 AM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 
yea but like it was already said, even if you hit 6 in back it may expire but it could suffer more if you dont shoot again. you dont have anything to lose Plus if you put a second hole it may make it easier to track. and possibly not take as long even if your second shot does hit it in the guts again




what are you going to doinjure it?????

Wheatley 08-02-2007 11:02 AM

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I practice regulary out to 60 yards and can keep most the arrows in a softball size maybe larger on some days. I do however know that the bottom of my sight ring is right at 80 yards so if he is within 80 yards I am going to try it. More than likely he would jump the string and since it will take the arrow a while to get there he would have moved. Heck I have had deer jump the string at 30 yards and it grazes right off thier back or slightly over it. He may just come up in time to hit it again.

Can not hurt to try and get another one in it IMO.

BackwoodsBuck 08-02-2007 11:17 AM

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Since it is already hit, I say 50 because that is my farthest pin.

hoseromon 08-02-2007 11:32 AM

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If it is already wounded with what I would guess would be a gut shot. Any shot I would try in an effort to kill it quicker and more humanly.

JoeRE 08-02-2007 11:37 AM

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If I wanted to take a second shot on a wounded deer, I would take it out to 85 yards which is my furthest pin.
I practice regulary out that far through the summer( & w/ broadheads out of curiousity in how they fly), and in a HUNTING situation i beleve that i can put a broadhead in the vitals 2/3 times at that distance.

HOWever, in the given senario,a stomach shot deer is likely to bed down that close if left alone, and i too would not shoot it if it bedded down at say, 65 yards. The reason for this is there is a good chance (i would say 80/20)that it will not go 20 yds from that spot before dyingif left alone. If i spook or graze it with an arrow, then it might run much further, w/o a blood trail, and we all know what that could mean.

so basically, yea, its a case by case senario. the only second shot that i have made ( i missed another one [>:]) was at 32ish yards.

goos_blues 08-02-2007 11:52 AM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 

ORIGINAL: JoeRE

If I wanted to take a second shot on a wounded deer, I would take it out to 85 yards which is my furthest pin.
I practice regulary out that far through the summer( & w/ broadheads out of curiousity in how they fly), and in a HUNTING situation i beleve that i can put a broadhead in the vitals 2/3 times at that distance.

HOWever, in the given senario,a stomach shot deer is likely to bed down that close if left alone, and i too would not shoot it if it bedded down at say, 65 yards. The reason for this is there is a good chance (i would say 80/20)that it will not go 20 yds from that spot before dyingif left alone. If i spook or graze it with an arrow, then it might run much further, w/o a blood trail, and we all know what that could mean.

so basically, yea, its a case by case senario. the only second shot that i have made ( i missed another one [>:]) was at 32ish yards.
Exactly howI think about it. If you have already made a crappy shot, there is a good chance you could do it again, only makeing a longer tracking job.

brucelanthier 08-02-2007 11:59 AM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 

ORIGINAL: goos_blues


ORIGINAL: JoeRE

If I wanted to take a second shot on a wounded deer, I would take it out to 85 yards which is my furthest pin.
I practice regulary out that far through the summer( & w/ broadheads out of curiousity in how they fly), and in a HUNTING situation i beleve that i can put a broadhead in the vitals 2/3 times at that distance.

HOWever, in the given senario,a stomach shot deer is likely to bed down that close if left alone, and i too would not shoot it if it bedded down at say, 65 yards. The reason for this is there is a good chance (i would say 80/20)that it will not go 20 yds from that spot before dyingif left alone. If i spook or graze it with an arrow, then it might run much further, w/o a blood trail, and we all know what that could mean.

so basically, yea, its a case by case senario. the only second shot that i have made ( i missed another one [>:]) was at 32ish yards.
Exactly howI think about it. If you have already made a crappy shot, there is a good chance you could do it again, only makeing a longer tracking job.
Well, my question wasn't if you would take a second shot. My question was:


If you would attempt a second shot what is the maximum range you feel confortable shooting?

Perhaps you should start your own poll before you drag mine off track ;).

JoeRE 08-02-2007 12:02 PM

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sorry, i started off my reply meaning to answer the question anyway:)

goos_blues 08-02-2007 12:05 PM

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I think 'if' you should is more important than how far. You have to think about the shot and the results at any range. So, I think your poll is still on track.

GMMAT 08-02-2007 12:12 PM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 
I'll empty my quiver until the animal is either:

Dead

or

out of range

I have a 60 yd pin.

adidazman15 08-02-2007 12:17 PM

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If the first shot is fatal and you can see where he stopped chances are he is not going far. Why chance sending him running off?? Unless I thought the first shot just wounded (brokend back, etc) him I would not shoot again at any distance.

JNTURK 08-02-2007 01:02 PM

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60 yards...farthest pin....i owe it to the deer as an ethical hunter to take a second shot attempt.

OhioRedNeck 08-02-2007 01:05 PM

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I would probly go around 40 to 50. got nothing to loose.

GMMAT 08-02-2007 01:15 PM

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I stuck 3 arrows in 2 different deer last year for two reasons. They were a) still alive and b) still in range.

I think Rob/PA shot his buck four times.

I can't think of a valid reason not to keep shooting.

Copper31 08-02-2007 01:15 PM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 
To be honest I don't think I would be in the frame of mind to grab another arrow.I would be more concerned on getting a good look at where I hit him.

Freedom0115 08-02-2007 02:19 PM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 
I tend to agree with "what do you have to lose?" It's like when Vicki Ciancirulo (sp?) shot that one moose. The arrow only went in so far, hit the opposite shoulder or leg bone and bounced out but was clearly a fatal heart shot. As soon as she shot and they saw the bull was just going to stand there the outfitter was saying "Shoot it again! Shoot it again!"

I think I'd do the same given the opportunity on any game.

mauser06 08-02-2007 02:23 PM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 
if i can see it, and have a clear, SAFE shot at it i am going to give er heck...since you said XX it must be under 100. i havent practiced past 50 yet...but im going to start shooting 50 and 60 soon just to do it. if i can sink em on a paper plate at 60 a hair at 20 will look easy...

no reason NOT to send another arrow towards him. i rather have another one in there...more blood..more damage...maybe hes within what i practice and my hard work will pay off and i will drill him. but if you got a bad hit on him once 2 bad hits are better than 1 IMO

gplant 08-02-2007 02:32 PM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 

ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d

Any shot at a wounded deer ,that can be taken safely, is a good one!
Agree- But I would still feel better if it was at 50 or less.

r33h 08-02-2007 02:36 PM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 
Since the deer has already been hit, I would go with my fifty yard pin. If the deer hadn't been hit I would probably have to say my forty yard pin.

goos_blues 08-02-2007 06:03 PM

RE: Long range second shot Pt.2
 
If I could get a shot from 0-40 maybe 50, I would shoot again. If the deer is out there anyfarther, first I'm going to see if it is going to lay down. If it is, im not shooting unless it looks like it might get up again. If its laying down I wouldnt shoot, I wouldn't want to take a chance at spooking him again. It would stiffen up and pass away shortly. However my maximum right now is 50.

Kelly/KY 08-02-2007 06:08 PM

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I would take open shots out to 70 as long as it was clear and my first shot was more than just a flesh wound.


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