Knowing what I know, now....I'm looking forward to that slow season.

I agree having other life experiences to relate tocan and will help someones learning curve out...... I was a young dumb kid out there when i first started.... I thought bows were cool and decided to start "hunting" one day..... None of my family or friends hunted, soI really wasin the dark.

I don't think we are any more adamant about things than you are though

Which is why I love the conversations so much. I NEVER ...EVER question you guys convictions. If I did....I wouldn't respect your stance(s).

Have a great weekend.

I think if you could look back on this thread in 10 years from nowyou would change your tune JMO. Experience isn't gained by number of kills or stats. Nothing replaces good old fashion TIME in the woods. That comes from years of hunting. No way to rush the process.

Like someone said on page whatever I saw it on......... drawing your bow, shooting an arrow, and killing the animal is about .5% of the "experience" process.

Have a great weekend

This is just my opinion.....

I think why you and some others don't see eye to eye on whitetail conversations is the major differences between what you and "we" hunt.......

I think the major hang up on the whole experience thing is, it is a lot different setting up on 65 acres ofland teeming with deer and setting up on 1000's of acres of state land or small to medium sized chunks of private land with 10-20 deer per square mile...... What one would learn hunting the pressured lower density deer IMO would be more than one hunting small acreage over flowing with deer. (Assuming it was the same person in both scenarios)

You won't get away with to manymistakes on a herd of roughly 10-20 deer per square mile, it wouldn't take many mistakes to educate a small herd like this, especially the few mature animals that would be in a herd of this size..... You would however have a lot more room for error when hunting such a large number of deer say 50 deer (or more by the sounds of it) per square mile.

I have properties like both of my scenarios... (Not 50 deer PSM but a good sized herd) I know that I have learned much more hunting the other properties especially the state landthan I had sitting and loosing count of the deer filing past me. At this place any tree is a good tree to see deer out of.... However setting up successfully on pressured private / public land deer is a whole nother' ball game.

Question....

Hunter A and Hunter B again....

Who is more experienced....

Hunter A hunts 5 different properties with differing topography.... Hunter B hunts the same75 acres of woods each trip out.... Both pre / post season scout50 hours and log 100 hours on stand.... Who has the most experience as a hunter?

Who would have a better shot on setting up on deer in a new enviroment?
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Excuse me?

Its pretty obvious you know nothing about me. "I" am the farthest thing from an egotistical chest thumper. Like I said, I was using a real world situation to prove my point, unlike someone else.

Scott:

I don't care any more. Don't take that the worng way....I'm just tired of it being spinned into something other than what I asked.

I'll answer your question.....just the way you presented it, though. Let's see....

OK...Now that I've read it.... What does this have to do with this thread? This is far-removed from the question I was asking.....but....as stated...I'd say the guy who hunts the different parcels.

I can tell you who I'd rather be invited to hunt with, though. I'm betting that B guy knows his woods like a champ!

Arent we talking about whitetails?

I find it mildly amusing that the bar seems to be rising (as to how one gains experience) as the thread goes on. The criteria has gone from: Time on stand.....animal sightings......animals passed on......to now....how big a parcel one hunts....and the number of deer sightings and animals passed on is a NEGATIVE.

I have no desire to learn how to hunt your deer.....your woods....unless I'm going to be hunting there. I'd rather stay here and gain more experience where it matters......where I hunt. It's the only place I hunt. I did take my bow to the eastern side of the state last year during gun season to a buddy's lease. I was the only one there that day that shot a deer. Saw the place one weekend.....went in with a climber a month later and shot a buck.

Nobody's making light of what some of you guys do. I asked a question. I got some answers. I appreciate the conversation.

I quess what is important, is that a person sticks with what he feels is making him a better and more experienced hunter. I like to think that each yearI take to the field, I'm a littlesmarter than the last. This comes from a variety of things; new friends, hunting a different species, time, huntingnet.com, hunting different areas, etc... For me, shooting a gazillion as compared to one or two deer a year, wouldn't benefit me much.If you feel shooting more helps you, than I guess thats all that matters. Best of luck this year GGMAT.

I missed this whole conversation.... is that a good thing ?

See you did it again.... You can ask people all kinds of questions and voice your point of view and expect answers.... Someone asks you questions or states their point of view and you get pissy.

I did not change anything about this thread. I was stating why I believe many of these guys views and yours do not see eye to eye. It has nothing to do with your original question or posts intent, I know this. It has nothing to do with you learning to hunt my or anyone else's woods. In no way shape or form did I suggest that you should do that in the first place. I have had many PM's with others during our squabble... and this is the gist I got out of my conversations with others, as well as observations here on the board.... I was passing it on to you.

My post did not include any jabs or malice... I was careful the way I worded it as well to not cause a riff as well.


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I never said it was a negative, actually it is a huge positive learning the way the animals interact..... Ican tell you however watching all those deer walk by didn't help me out hunting the other tracts of land.... As I said any tree is a good tree to see deer in that set of woods. When you (I)see that many deer the challenge wears off (in my experiences) and I would get "sloppy" hunting there at times. You can't get away with being sloppy very often hunting a more "standard" (for a lack of a better word)hunting environment.
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