Not for girls you pervs [8D].......

There's 300 acre chunk of unhunted land that falls between 2 properties I hunt. This place is a "big buck" haven. If I could ever get access to this land life would be good. It would complete the puzzle.

Not sure why he doesn't let anyone hunt it. The guy is kind of quiet keep to himself kind of person. I've asked for permission a few years ago and he said no. Not really sure why he doesn't want anyone to hunt it. He's not a tree hugger person. Maybe he'd just rather not have anyone on his land.

Anyway ... next time I see him I'm going to talk to him about it. Can't hurt to ask again I guess. So what's the best approach? Free labor around his house? Be the son he never had? Take his daughter out? Money? or a genuine polite request?[8D]

One approach that I've seen work when all others fail is to explain to him that you use a bow to hunt with and not a gun. Some people just don't want you on their property with guns. Explain to him that you would help take are of the land. If he is worried about liability issues explain to him that if you were hunting the land that you could "over see" it and keep tresspassers off. Explain to him as of now, he is actually taking a bigger risk of someone getting hurt on his property b/c he has no one "policing" it for him.

If all else fails. Sometimes money talks.

Good luck.

If you have a son or daughter take them with you and act like your looking for birds and tell him you seen a rare bird fly onto his property and ask if you can go take a pic. Then come back and ask if you can try again at a later date then get to know him then BAM mention a lot of deer on the property and ask if possible to hunt it. Give it a bit of time though.

P.S- Don't wear hunting cloths when you do it.

Oh yeah...forgot the "take a kid" trick. It works too. Doesn't have to be your kid either...lol

You say to him I have tried this the nice way,and now he either changes his tune or you are going to hunt it any way!
Now what I would do is engage in a relaxed conversation and mention to him that you have permission to hunt two adjoining properties and you would be appreciative if he allowed you to archery hunt his property on a trial basis,if there was any thing that was disturbing to him you would cease right away! The trial basis implies a lack of permanence and may not be as threatening to him. Good luck!

Find a copy of Joe Broooks book.....'Year round trophy Whitetails'. He describes a method that has yet to fail me.......and I have access to grounds NOBODY thought I'd get on. Just follow it to the letter.

Here's what I can remember.....but this is from memory:

1. go on a pretty day....when moods are good
2. go to the side or back door
3. drive an american made vehicle....preferrably a truck (make sure it's clean)
4. if you wear a cap....make it something American made...like John Deere or Massey Ferguson
5. if you go with anyone....make it a child....but best to go alone
6. TAKE YOUR AERIAL MAP OF THE PROPERTY WITH YOU (I can't tell you how transfixed people get on a piece of paper you're walking up with). This also lets the landowner know you've taken some time and you're serious about what you do.
7. explain that you hunt with a bow and arrow. That sounds harmless when said like that.
8. Ask if anyone else is hunting the land....and decline if they are.
9. don't wear camo


He has more......and it works.The map is something Joe stresses....and he's spot on with his method.

Money talks and BS walks.

I'd just start w/ asking to hunt a particular area on the fringe of his property. this guy sounds like he's going to say no - make it easy to say yes.

Start by maybe asking if you can have permission to retrieve game from his land that you shot on adjoining land. If he gives it to you, then thank him. When you kill a deer, bring him a backstrap. If you tracked it onto his land, tell him it is just a thank you. If you did not, even better. Let him know that you didn't, but you just wanted to thank him for the opportunity. Try to build a friendship with the guy. Next year, it will probably much easier to let a friend hunt the property. And even if he doesn't let you hunt it, you may just make a new friend anyway.