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I did not and do not point a finger at 'trophy hunters or trophy hunting' , just taking it too far. I have repeatedly stated that it in and of itself is not problematic, but rather that the some that do go too far are not thinking long term nor do they seem to care about the long term, All that seems to matter is bigger and better, regardless of how it is achieved and the effects that it has on the big picture. These are the ones who have lost sight of huntings heritage and are, in effect, redefining it. Comprende?

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Hell let's talk about the other Ted if we wanna talk hunting heritage. He learned from the best. You gotta admit....he's pretty "middle of the road" about "trophy" hunting.

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I don't think trophy hunters go against the "heritage" of hunting at all, in fact I think it's quite the opposite I believe that it is a big part of our huntingheritage. Just as Germ said Teddy Roosevelthimself was a trophy hunter.

My problem is with others trying to push people into being trophy hunters when all they want to do is simply kill deer......any deer. Just like the reason for this post in the first place. Beagle001 was asking how to get theothers he hunts withto think the way he does with respect to hunting styles ie: him wanting to shoot bigger antlered deerwhile the others are happy with whatever walks by.

Unless it's his land all he can do is open it up for debate with his fellow hunters. If they are all happy with the way things are then he is S.O.L. and he should just live with it and continue hunting his way (for trophies) or find another place to hunt.

There are some exceptions but most here would love to kill a big buck including myself. In fact there have beentimes that all I did was trophy hunt and other times I nailed the first deer that struck my fancy. I've killed my share ofP&Y deer and I willcontinue to hunt for them (trophys) just as I will continue to shoot whatever I feel like at the time a shot presents itself.But I will never look down, degrade or try to convince someone who is HAPPY with they way they hunt, to hunt the way I do just to make it easier for me to kill a trophy deer.

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ORIGINAL: BigJ12

I don't think trophy hunters go against the "heritage" of hunting at all, in fact I think it's quite the opposite I believe that it is a big part of our huntingheritage. Just as Germ said Teddy Roosevelthimself was a trophy hunter.

My problem is with others trying to push people into being trophy hunters when all they want to do is simply kill deer......any deer. Just like the reason for this post in the first place. Beagle001 was asking how to get theothers he hunts withto think the way he does with respect to hunting styles ie: him wanting to shoot bigger antlered deerwhile the others are happy with whatever walks by.

Unless it's his land all he can do is open it up for debate with his fellow hunters. If they are all happy with the way things are then he is S.O.L. and he should just live with it and continue hunting his way (for trophies) or find another place to hunt.

There are some exceptions but most here would love to kill a big buck including myself. In fact there have beentimes that all I did was trophy hunt and other times I nailed the first deer that struck my fancy. I've killed my share ofP&Y deer and I willcontinue to hunt for them (trophys) just as I will continue to shoot whatever I feel like at the time a shot presents itself.But I will never look down, degrade or try to convince someone who is HAPPY with they way they hunt, to hunt the way I do just to make it easier for me to kill a trophy deer.

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ORIGINAL: Germ

Not what I am asking;)or said.

To a person who does not hunt what does the "Hertiage" of hunting mean. When you tell a person who does not hunt I respect the "Hertiage of hunting".
Does the said person undestand what you are talking about? I am not confusing the two, just you:D
I don't know why I would discuss heritage with a nonhunter, and I doubt that he would be concerned or have an opinion or a concept on which to base it. Most nonhunters seem to be concerned with one issue--do you hunt and eat the meat? If you were to say to him, no,all I care about is the horns, you've lost him. Their emphasis , in my experience, has always been about being sure there is just reason for taking an animals life.That implies that his concept of hunting's 'heritage', although I'm sure he wouldn't use that term, would be centered around meat--a food source, as hunting originally was all about. I am not insinuating that trophy hunters, at least most, do not realize this or have no regard for the meat, and I will repeat--I amnot against trophy hunting or hunters, but simply allowing it to go too far.
So lets ask this.

When someone says trophy hunting is ruining the hertiage of hunting. Is that not wrong? Being trophy hunting is a part of the hertiage of hunting?

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ORIGINAL: Germ

man I agree 100%

I am not talking about you or anyone on this bored. We are having a civil discuession:) and learing how to spell Heritage

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