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GMMAT 07-12-2007 10:43 AM

Why I am taxed with thinning does.....
 
77 images on my game cam.....from July 4th, through today.

Cam is set on a mineral lick that I have replenished twice in the last 3 months.

ONE small buck on my last set of images.

I can't wait to shoot a pile of nannies.

goherd1111 07-12-2007 10:46 AM

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I have had mine up since July 1, and gotten about 100 pics. However, like you, only one of them was a buck. Rest were does and fawns. At least it was a real nice 8 or 10. It is looking like I may need to do a lil doe management myself this fall.;):D

Jim_IV 07-12-2007 10:48 AM

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at least your getting pics. my cameras down and out right now. damn hogs

Buck Magnet 07-12-2007 10:50 AM

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Holy crap, I have had my camera up since July 5th and when I checked it yesterday I had 274 photos and I am gonna guess that around 80% of the pictures were of bucks. :D

ahunter55 07-12-2007 11:26 AM

RE: Why I am taxed with thinning does.....
 
What happens if you don't have a trail cam? I guess I let it be a surprise when they walk by. Passed 15 different Bucks last year but did thin the Doe population. Good Luck fellas.

mobow 07-12-2007 11:31 AM

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I wonder how many of those are "repeat customers." I know what you mean though.....Does galore...

huntingson 07-12-2007 11:36 AM

RE: Why I am taxed with thinning does.....
 
So far my photo numbers have been about 2-3 does per buck. I don't figure that is too bad, but 77 to 1, I think I would get a bunch of inexpensive arrows;)

GMMAT 07-12-2007 11:40 AM

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mobo....ABSOLUTELY I have some "repeat customers". We estimate (wildlife biologist told me) the herd here to be around 50-60.

Figure I'm hunting deer that are traversing a square mile (est.).......and you see why I kept a detailed journal like I did, last year....and why the biologist wants me to take out several does.

I fully agree that there's only a certain number of deer, here. I got over 120 images, last year, in a span of 3 days. But....the numbers are a bit out of whack. Not as bad as many might think.....but...over the top (probably 4:1-5:1).

GMMAT 07-12-2007 11:44 AM

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I think I would get a bunch of inexpensive arrows;)
I picked a BAD year to switch to a/c/c's, didn't I?[&:];)

Also.....I've read that a deer herd will lose "members" at a rate of 20% throughout the off-season. Lisa and I have found a few carcasses, shed hunting.....and I've found a couple by the road and pond. If we've found 6.....there's probably another 6 we haven't seen (on the low side....it coud be two times that, who knows?)......and it isn't hunting season, yet. I only know of 5 taken from this herd, last year.....but we're still talking 17 deer that won't be there, this season (hunting). Ah.....but the nannies are having them left and right. If I can take 10 or so of the breeders out, this Fall.....and re-assess, next Spring.......I'm thinking I could have a sweet place to hunt in about 3+ yrs.

All I can do is take sound advice.....do my part...and see.;)

farmcntry 07-12-2007 11:47 AM

RE: Why I am taxed with thinning does.....
 
Jeff I have 4 ways to help you out.

I call em doe tags!;)

huntingson 07-12-2007 11:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT


I think I would get a bunch of inexpensive arrows;)
I picked a BAD year to switch to a/c/c's, didn't I?[&:];)
Actually, I have been shooting A/C/C's for 9 years and pass throughs are almost always reuseable. Change out the broadhead blades and you are good to go again... at least most of the time.

GMMAT 07-12-2007 11:57 AM

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Huntingson:


Actually, I have been shooting A/C/C's for 9 years and pass throughs are almost always reuseable. Change out the broadhead blades and you are good to go again... at least most of the time.
I've already bought 18 sets of replacement blades for my muzzys!;)

Farm:

Mister....you and I can shoot does here, any time. I wish you'd come over and shoot some 3D with Mitch and I, sometime. We will DEFINITELY be doe hunting here, this Fall. I just have limited places I can take you......but you're welcome to hunt here, any time. In fact....you can hunt with Mitch opening morning in my prime spot.....and I'll take another spot (Farm knows my son)....if you want to.

farmcntry 07-12-2007 11:59 AM

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That'll work!

I may have a spot or 2 for you as well.:D

GMMAT 07-12-2007 12:02 PM

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I may have a spot or 2 for you as well.:D
I appreciate it. I really do.....but I've got my work cut out for me, right HERE. Shoot me a pM, sometie and we'll set it up.

mobow 07-12-2007 12:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

mobo....ABSOLUTELY I have some "repeat customers". We estimate (wildlife biologist told me) the herd here to be around 50-60.

Figure I'm hunting deer that are traversing a square mile (est.).......and you see why I kept a detailed journal like I did, last year....and why the biologist wants me to take out several does.

I fully agree that there's only a certain number of deer, here. I got over 120 images, last year, in a span of 3 days. But....the numbers are a bit out of whack. Not as bad as many might think.....but...over the top (probably 4:1-5:1).
WOW! That's a lot of deer man!! How many acres? How many are you wanting to whack this year, what's your goal?

farmcntry 07-12-2007 12:33 PM

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I appreciate it. I really do.....but I've got my work cut out for me, right HERE. Shoot me a pM, sometie and we'll set it up.
Well just remember my spots hold a turkey season your spot doesnt!

GMMAT 07-12-2007 12:36 PM

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mobo....I only have access to 60 acres or so (+/-). A square mile is 640 acres.

I'd guess I'm likely dealing with more deer than the bio tells me I am....but I'll defer to his knowledge (based on my journal numbers). I'd say it was more like 80 or more. Lisa and I counted alomst 30 the other evening just riding around looking into fields.

I'd like to take 12-18 out of the herd. I don't care WHO takes them. I suppose I'll end up shooting around 8, though,......if I had to guess.

GMMAT 07-12-2007 12:37 PM

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farm.....you spit the truf (in my best ludacris impression);)

MichaelHunsucker 07-12-2007 12:39 PM

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I will be doing some doe managing again this year like i have in the past. There have been 25-30 does in the clover the last few nights. There are also a lot of bucks in the other field but i would stil like to lower the number of does....

rybohunter 07-12-2007 03:20 PM

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Sometimes numbers like that can be skewed depending on time between pics, and location. I can put a cam on the neighbors apple tree, set it to shoot every minute and have 100 pics overnight with just a couple does and fawns chowing down. You won't see a buck there at all. Don't really know why. Then you stick the cam after hunting season, 50 yds back in the woods and you'll get about 80% bucks over does.

MichaelHunsucker 07-12-2007 03:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: rybohunter

Sometimes numbers like that can be skewed depending on time between pics, and location.
Very true. There at the beginning of summer when the does were giving birth seems like i had a ton of pictures of bucks and saw mainly bucks in the fields...

Matt/TN 07-12-2007 03:30 PM

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Jeff if you need any help with those does I have a few arrows :D

IL-Cornfed 07-12-2007 04:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I picked a BAD year to switch to a/c/c's, didn't I?[&:];)

Hey those babies are TOUGH and penetrate so easily they'll be sticking in the ground on the other side of the animal nearly everytime. My luckiest ACC 3-49 shaft killed 9 deer before a bedded 260# beast bent the knock end on a pass-thu ! Outstanding arrows!

IL-Cornfed 07-12-2007 04:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

77 images on my game cam.....from July 4th, through today.

Thatactually seems like a prettylow number of photosfor nearly 2 weeks, especialy considering it's positioned over a mineral lick ??? [&:]

I just checked my cam-trakker yesterday and had 373 photos,.... since Saturday ! [:-]

GMMAT 07-13-2007 05:38 AM

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IL....it's only 7+ days.....and I agree that it's low.


Sometimes numbers like that can be skewed depending on time between pics, and location. I can put a cam on the neighbors apple tree, set it to shoot every minute and have 100 pics overnight with just a couple does and fawns chowing down. You won't see a buck there at all. Don't really know why. Then you stick the cam after hunting season, 50 yds back in the woods and you'll get about 80% bucks over does.

Not sure which "numbers" you're speaking of being skewed, rybo. If you're talking about the overall herd numbers.....the low figure of 50-60 came from the wildlife biologist. I think he low-balled me. I think there's 1.5X that many. There's gettin ready to be less.;)

wis_bow_huntr 07-13-2007 05:51 AM

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i dont even have mine out yet lol

chucker34 07-13-2007 09:58 AM

RE: Why I am taxed with thinning does.....
 
Wow. Good luck. Know what you mean though. Lots of does and and occasional yearling buck in day time at mineral lick and the occassional 8 point who comes through every other night or so. But its at night and I don't know if I can wait for the rut for them to switch shifts if presented an opportunity at a nice fat doe early on. I only get one deer this year on our property (instead of 3 last year) thanks to new management rules impacting archery as well for the first time. So at least you can tag away at multiple does and hold out for that big guy. Good luck and sounds like a nice property to hunt!


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