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What percent of "success" is determined by "Location"
07-14-2007 | 12:06 PM
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RE: What percent of "success" is determined by "Location"
I never said restrict the harvest of the herd, I think a few of the tactics the NC employs does more harm than good. This is all I am saying.
07-14-2007 | 12:13 PM
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RE: What percent of "success" is determined by "Location"
Still......if we have a 1.5:1 buck/doe ratio.....we'll still never have the size deer other states have. We have our share of anomolies......but they're the exception and not the rule.
07-14-2007 | 12:22 PM
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RE: What percent of "success" is determined by "Location"
Maybe not the ratio, Mobo....but sound management practices shouldhave a ratio similar to that as an "ideal". The sheer numbers, however, DO have a huge impact on the size of the herd. The deer I hunt......their growth is stunted due to the sheer numbers. There's only so much food to go around. 6' and down .....winter time....the place I hunt is barren of browse.
Fewer deer...fewer mouths.....bigger deer ( with 'bigger' being relative). If we try to take care of one of the problems (herd numbers)....we'll undoubtedly help the ratio...which is why I cited it.
Fewer deer...fewer mouths.....bigger deer ( with 'bigger' being relative). If we try to take care of one of the problems (herd numbers)....we'll undoubtedly help the ratio...which is why I cited it.
07-14-2007 | 12:25 PM
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RE: What percent of "success" is determined by "Location"
What ya got in mind, then, Scott? To reduce the herd numbers.....but still aid the overall herd as far as size of deer and ratio of bucks to does?
Heck I've got a lot of friends here.....and we're all ears.
Name another southern state that has the amount of hunters we have.....and the amount of deer we have......and that is doing a great job with management.
Cant cite PA. Same deer (amount).....fewer hunters. If we had the herd numbers you have in Ohio.....we could easily manage our herd. We have a problem. We have too many targets.....and not enough shooters. You have the opposite problem. I'm looking at a deer as I types this
Heck I've got a lot of friends here.....and we're all ears.
The best way to get your state like the other successful southern states is compare your rules and regs to theirs and most importantly educate the hunters.
Look at PA it was a mess for as longs as anyone could remember, they changed their rules and regs, educated the hunters and the state is starting to flourish. It can be done.
Look at PA it was a mess for as longs as anyone could remember, they changed their rules and regs, educated the hunters and the state is starting to flourish. It can be done.
Cant cite PA. Same deer (amount).....fewer hunters. If we had the herd numbers you have in Ohio.....we could easily manage our herd. We have a problem. We have too many targets.....and not enough shooters. You have the opposite problem. I'm looking at a deer as I types this
07-14-2007 | 01:34 PM
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RE: What percent of "success" is determined by "Location"
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Maybe not the ratio, Mobo....but sound management practices shouldhave a ratio similar to that as an "ideal". The sheer numbers, however, DO have a huge impact on the size of the herd. The deer I hunt......their growth is stunted due to the sheer numbers. There's only so much food to go around. 6' and down .....winter time....the place I hunt is barren of browse.
Fewer deer...fewer mouths.....bigger deer ( with 'bigger' being relative). If we try to take care of one of the problems (herd numbers)....we'll undoubtedly help the ratio...which is why I cited it.
Maybe not the ratio, Mobo....but sound management practices shouldhave a ratio similar to that as an "ideal". The sheer numbers, however, DO have a huge impact on the size of the herd. The deer I hunt......their growth is stunted due to the sheer numbers. There's only so much food to go around. 6' and down .....winter time....the place I hunt is barren of browse.
Fewer deer...fewer mouths.....bigger deer ( with 'bigger' being relative). If we try to take care of one of the problems (herd numbers)....we'll undoubtedly help the ratio...which is why I cited it.
07-14-2007 | 02:00 PM
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RE: What percent of "success" is determined by "Location"
I am talking about the size of each deer.
If we get the numbers down.....and the deer dont have to compete so much for food......"I" have to assume the remaining deer would flourish (with 'flourish', again, being relative).
If we get the numbers down.....and the deer dont have to compete so much for food......"I" have to assume the remaining deer would flourish (with 'flourish', again, being relative).
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