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Tbyrnzy82 06-27-2007 01:20 PM

Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
I have heard it multiple times from differnt sources but does any one on here have the experience to back that up? If so where does the southern "ducking" border start?

huntingson 06-27-2007 01:26 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: Tbyrnzy82

If so where does the southern "ducking" border start?
Just south of the leprechauns pot of gold. Which is a huge coincidence, becausethe ratio of ducking speed from a northern deer and a southern deer is also the same as the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns.

GMMAT 06-27-2007 01:28 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
I dunno. May be some truth to the claim.

I know a gymnast is much more nimble than a sumo wrestler.

LittleChief 06-27-2007 01:29 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
I knew something like this was coming. I was just wondering who would start it.:D:D

j_beste 06-27-2007 01:32 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
The ducking border runs along the 78th parallel.:D They say the gravitational pull south of this line allows the deer to "duck" faster.

Tbyrnzy82 06-27-2007 01:34 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I dunno. May be some truth to the claim.

I know a gymnast is much more nimble than a sumo wrestler.
Never thought of it that way... Thanks for the perspective

huntingson 06-27-2007 01:34 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
Honestly, I would bet that the reaction times are identical, and the difference may be perceived as faster because the southern deer can get their smaller bodies out of the way faster, not because of reaction time but because of less travel necessary to get out of the way. I don't know if I said that right.







Jim_IV 06-27-2007 01:35 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: huntingson

Honestly, I would bet that the reaction times are identical, and the difference may be perceived as faster because the southern deer can get their smaller bodies out of the way faster, not because of reaction time but because of less travel necessary to get out of the way. I don't know if I said that right.






you did

Double Creek 06-27-2007 01:37 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
Not sure, but the SEC sure put on stomping on you northern boys in football and basketball this year :D

I would only assume our deer are superior athletes as well? [8D]

Germ 06-27-2007 01:39 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: huntingson

Honestly, I would bet that the reaction times are identical, and the difference may be perceived as faster because the southern deer can get their smaller bodies out of the way faster, not because of reaction time but because of less travel necessary to get out of the way. I don't know if I said that right.

Well your wrong[:-] Southern deer are way faster than northen deer, because their heads are already close to the grown because they're eating corn from a pile[:-]

He just didn't oh yes i did:D

GMMAT 06-27-2007 01:41 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
Holy crap......

Mr. Kettle.....if you're gonna call me a "pot".....at LEAST make it MISTER "pot".

I don't "corn".;):)

HuntingEd 06-27-2007 01:42 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
Its simple.

SOUTHERN ARROWS FLY SLOWER!

Bullet Hole Bailey 06-27-2007 01:42 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
HAHAHA

you guys have some good similies and examples!

Germ 06-27-2007 01:45 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Holy crap......

Mr. Kettle.....if you're gonna call me a "pot".....at LEAST make it MISTER "pot".

I don't "corn".;):)
ok mineral blocks:Dbut their heads are still down;) It's a lot tougher in the north country they eat the corn of the stalk[:-]

SwampCollie 06-27-2007 01:59 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
There are times when deer do duck (and they can duck an arrow fired at 350 just as fast as one at 150). For the most part...I think its just an excuse for missing though. I suspect that we southern hunters aren't quite as sharp with our bows as some of the up north gang...but of course our deer are the size of beagles and we can shoot them with rifles starting in August.

Germ 06-27-2007 02:16 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
Swamp that makes a pile of sense

huntingson 06-27-2007 02:17 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: huntingson

Honestly, I would bet that the reaction times are identical, and the difference may be perceived as faster because the southern deer can get their smaller bodies out of the way faster, not because of reaction time but because of less travel necessary to get out of the way. I don't know if I said that right.

Well your wrong[:-] Southern deer are way faster than northen deer, because their heads are already close to the grown because they're eating corn from a pile[:-]

He just didn't oh yes i did:D
Oh snap!!!

Red Lion 06-27-2007 02:24 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: HuntingEd

Its simple.

SOUTHERN ARROWS FLY SLOWER!
I think this is the best answer. ;)

Wheatley 06-27-2007 02:31 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
I dunno, that doe that ducked my arrow in Nebraska last year must have been from the south. She was wicked fast and she taught me a lesson (twice).[:@] Must have been on vacation and visting it's northern relatives. This was around Christmas and the new year. :)

nctaxi 06-27-2007 02:34 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
Southern deer are just smarter. Case and point....

their heads are already close to the grown

SwampCollie 06-27-2007 02:35 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

Swamp that makes a pile of sense
Not to mention that most of the states up there think that shotguns are for deer hunting...not rifles.

I will boldly state that most southern boys will flat lick anybody when it comes to wingshooting or shooting a rifle.

Bow shooting seems to be much MUCH more popular and prevalent in the north and mid-west. For the most part down here, you shoot a bow because you like to. VA allows x-bows..and there are lots of bow hutners here. But where I come from in the Lowcountry of SC....you bow hunt just for the heck of it...because its rifles from day 1 in August til closing in January.

I'm not knockin my own here...and I'd take out most yankees with my bow...but I think there are for more people up north who are hunters that bowhunt as well.

Steelhead31 06-27-2007 02:53 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: Double Creek

Not sure, but the SEC sure put on stomping on you northern boys in football and basketball this year :D

I would only assume our deer are superior athletes as well? [8D]
I do believe Wisconsin beat Arkansas and Penn St. beat Tennessee making the Big Ten 2-1 against the SEC this bowl season. Ohio St. managed to knock off Tennessee on their way to the Final Four. It's easy toassume a CONFERENCE was"stomped" by anotherbased solely on the matchups between ONE team from each, but harder to take all information into consideration and admit the truth even though it may make your argument seem both ridiculous and biased.

mtfreezer 06-27-2007 03:16 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
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I will boldly state that most southern boys will flat lick anybody when it comes to wingshooting or shooting a rifle.

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Your bold statement is dead wrong. You might be correct with saying that southern boyscan out wingshoot or rifle shoot northeastern or west coast boys, but there is no way you guys can out shoot us midwest boys. I laugh at the way southerners wingshoot, and I see a lot of them come up to shoot at pheasants here in South Dakota. You guys are just terrible shots.

If southern deer do duck faster, it's just because they get more practice.If rednecks chucked a few beer bottles at your head, you would learn to duck faster too.;)

gibblet 06-27-2007 03:18 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
yeah, but southern boys don't cornhole.

Germ 06-27-2007 03:20 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

Edit No good taste to parse or re-write post:)

Jim_IV 06-27-2007 03:29 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: mtfreezer

I will boldly state that most southern boys will flat lick anybody when it comes to wingshooting or shooting a rifle.


Your bold statement is dead wrong. You might be correct with saying that southern boyscan out wingshoot or rifle shoot northeastern or west coast boys, but there is no way you guys can out shoot us midwest boys. I laugh at the way southerners wingshoot, and I see a lot of them come up to shoot at pheasants here in South Dakota. You guys are just terrible shots.

If southern deer do duck faster, it's just because they get more practice.If rednecks chucked a few beer bottles at your head, you would learn to duck faster too.;)
Dont be puttin all us southern boys together just because you have seen a few rich boys from the middle of a city shoot a gun for their first time. you come down toour neck of the woods and we will show you a think or two on wing shootin

mtfreezer 06-27-2007 03:58 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: bigjim12

Dont be puttin all us southern boys together just because you have seen a few rich boys from the middle of a city shoot a gun for their first time. you come down toour neck of the woods and we will show you a think or two on wing shootin
Good point about the rich city boys. I was just trying to stir the pot a little. But, I doubt too many people could teach me how to wingshoot any better. Unless you can teach me how to switch my eye dominance when ever I wanted it to switch. I can't shot as well left handed. I am sure of one thing. I bet I could improve my bow shooting with your help. Very new to it and not a lot of help in my area.

SwampCollie 06-27-2007 04:16 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: mtfreezer


Your bold statement is dead wrong. You might be correct with saying that southern boyscan out wingshoot or rifle shoot northeastern or west coast boys, but there is no way you guys can out shoot us midwest boys. I laugh at the way southerners wingshoot, and I see a lot of them come up to shoot at pheasants here in South Dakota. You guys are just terrible shots.

I have had the pleasure of shooting both ducks and geese in the company of two good friends of mine who inhabit SD. And if your general marksmenship is in anyway relected in them....then y'all are just a joke.

I'm sure y'all are much better at shooting a single phesant out of the clear blue sky at 40 yards with a full choke and 3" lead #4s with the same amount of powder behind it as a load of OOO buckshot. But, when you put a phesant man behind a pointer and a covey of 15 birds with his phesant thumper...its pretty funny to see them empty their 12s into nothing but pine trees while I double with a 20, and another friend knocks off a pair with a .410. Wood ducks are even better amusement...because if there is one thing those two from SD do not understand...its shooting birds around the timber.

There again, any poor sap who can swing a gun fairly fast can kill phesants...and if he has a lab worth its salt...the dog will even run down the cripples....but picking a single out of a covey...or a drake woodie out of a trio in the early light through the trees separates the men from the boys.

SwampCollie 06-27-2007 04:20 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


EDIT EDIT

Edit again. :D

SwampCollie 06-27-2007 04:22 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: mtfreezer

I am sure of one thing. I bet I could improve my bow shooting with your help. Very new to it and not a lot of help in my area.
You'll actually find more similarities with shooting a bow to shooting a shotgun than you would a rifle. Less aim...more shooting by feel. Fit is very important. Consistancy is everything. And of course, you have to pick your shots.

MDBUCKHUNTER 06-27-2007 04:40 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: HuntingEd

Its simple.

SOUTHERN ARROWS FLY SLOWER!
I thought it was southern hunters THINK SLOWER! :D

early in 06-27-2007 05:04 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
I think TDWW could enlighten us on this issue.:D:D:D:D:DI wouldn't mention that flat licking though.;)

AR Bowhunter 06-27-2007 05:45 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
The whitetail deer in the southern states below the northern most teir of northern part ofthe state ofMissouri. Everything to the south of the loacation mentionedabovedoes have a genetic make up that enables them to be able to duck or squat or drop but, they do not have the ability tojump the arrow as easy as the deer in the northern sector above the northern most part ofMissouri. I could explain a little more in detail but do not havetime needed to do so in a timely manner.

The reason is because the deer in the south are shorter.

my7pointmonster 06-27-2007 05:55 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
I'll shoot with the best of them on the fourm and i can prolly outshoot all the southern boys on the forum when it comes down to it with a shot gun and a rifle Id even bet i can out archery you anyday of the week also.
Ryan. "boldly stated" and i dont care who you are shooting 4 deer from the hip isnt just luck.

early in 06-27-2007 05:56 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
I'm impressed!

AR Bowhunter 06-27-2007 06:12 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
Everyone that thinks you can out shoot everybody else that you have never shotwith or against, if you are looking for a pat on the back well go ahead a pat your self on the back. There that should be enough. Now go miss that deer this fall.

hardcorehunter 06-27-2007 06:26 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
The southern deer are just so small that they appear to be ducking.;)

AR Bowhunter 06-27-2007 06:31 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 

ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

The southern deer are just so small that they appear to be ducking.;)
While we are on the subject I wonder what weight difference is on say a 4.5 year old.

Diesel77 06-27-2007 06:55 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
I think I saw Elvis at the mall today.



ropadop 06-27-2007 08:36 PM

RE: Do southern deer really duck faster?
 
Southern deer are definitely smaller. I just about busted a gut trying to get my first PA buck into the back of my pickup by myself. I have missed more NC deer than PA deer, but I hope I am just getting better...or at least my equipment is. I started with a Bear Whitetail II bow...I have a Switchback now...big difference. Seriously, after analyzing shots on many DVD's, I think that the alertness of the deer is the primary factor in jumping the string. I have seen deer drop 6 to 8 inches in 3-4 frames of a DVD with the arrow in the picture.


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