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TROPHYHUNTER25 06-27-2007 09:20 AM

what a deal
 
Well how many of you have grown up watching hunting shows, and wish that could be you? Well now you can. If any of you watch Cedar Spur outdoors you can become a field staff member for $1,000 dollors. What a deal You get to pay them to use your footage and you can never use your footage agiain. Oh no gaurintee that your footage will be used but if it is you get a $100 bucks back. Almost forgot you also get a hat.

zubba 06-27-2007 09:24 AM

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I'll take two. ;)

huntingson 06-27-2007 09:25 AM

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What? Are you serious? Where do I sign up?

GMMAT 06-27-2007 09:29 AM

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You think that sounds far-fetched?

I see guys riding down the road on bicycles with logos all over their "touring gear". How much you reckon THAT costs them?

Want to advertise for PING by carrying their golf bag? What's THAT cost ya?

I agree in "pride of ownership".....but I want to get SOMETHING for what I'm paying for (in terms of added value).

I wouldn't pay $100 (much less $1K) to be on TV, hunting. I'm afraid someone would recognize me and know where I live if I shot a nice deer.

The same degenerates Quick was describing.....the ones living in mobile homes and driving $50K trucks with ATY's and bass boats behind them.......THEY will use their tax "refund" (snicker-snicker.....cough-cough....OVERPAYMENT) to pay this, though.

I'll bet you $100.

LebeauHunter 06-27-2007 09:34 AM

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That really isn't that crazy if you think about it and the game ranch market.

Guy's with little hunting experience pay thousands of dollars to kill a big buck so they can put it on
their wall. Logically, why wouldn't they pay 1k more to get their "big hunt" on tv and brag about how
they were a staff member at a big hunting lodge?

It sounds like a decent business plan.

NOTE: I did not say I would do it or condone it.

Arthur P 06-27-2007 09:40 AM

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You get a film crew to film your hunt, apparently. They'll even film you on your own property (as long as you are within a 50-mile radius of Jackson, MI.) Small price to pay for such an intense ego massage. [8D]

http://http://www.cedarspuroutdoors.com/packages2.htm

LittleChief 06-27-2007 09:47 AM

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I wouldn't let them film me for free. I'd be too embarrassed when something inevitably went wrong. Plus, knowing my luck, I'd get buck fever, lose control and take a bad shot (straight down through the back)and they'd put it on TV.:D

Jim_IV 06-27-2007 09:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: LebeauHunter

That really isn't that crazy if you think about it and the game ranch market.

Guy's with little hunting experience pay thousands of dollars to kill a big buck so they can put it on
their wall. Logically, why wouldn't they pay 1k more to get their "big hunt" on tv and brag about how
they were a staff member at a big hunting lodge?

It sounds like a decent business plan.

NOTE: I did not say I would do it or condone it.
I think you hit the nail on the head

gutshot 06-27-2007 09:52 AM

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Oh so are you guys saying that I should stop payment on my check then?[8D]

BobCo19-65 06-27-2007 10:21 AM

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Actually I think the price may have come down. When I was in Coloradoin 2004a couple of guys were filming (elk hunt w/bow) in hopes to sell footage for I believe they said $2,800.

LittleChief 06-27-2007 10:25 AM

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I guess I understand why some folks would do it, but I just don't have that much of an ego. I enjoy my accomplishments and do my share of bragging when I've earned the right to do so, but I don't care much for the idea of being in the spotlight.

Siman08/OH 06-27-2007 10:27 AM

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Yea i agree with that. I think that they should pay you for your hunt. MTV licensed a video from me earlier this year.....hunting shows should do the same. They should make a hunting show where they accept tapes and the best ones get aired and the owners get paid!

SwampCollie 06-27-2007 10:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

You think that sounds far-fetched?

I see guys riding down the road on bicycles with logos all over their "touring gear". How much you reckon THAT costs them?

Want to advertise for PING by carrying their golf bag? What's THAT cost ya?

[snip]

I'll bet you $100
I'lltake your $100that Lance Armstrong and Tiger Woods don't come out of the deal too bad off.......

You can paypal me. :D

At any rate...this whole thing is just anopportunity for those who haven't been lucky enough to meet the right people or make the right contacts. I'd wager a fair bet that there are 100s if not 1000s of hunters in this country who are much better hunters and shooters than lets say Michael Waddell. But, none of them happened to meet Bill Jordan at just the right point in history. His real talent happens to be his ability to be entertaining in front of the camera. Anyone of us could stand up in front of a camera and smoke a doe....but....could you pull it off with style?

As for paying to be on TV...thats retarted.

LebeauHunter 06-27-2007 10:29 AM

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Allright Cay4,

I can see CMT, but MTV? pimps and hos? You gotta provide more details.


YooperMike 06-27-2007 10:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: SwampCollie


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

You think that sounds far-fetched?

I see guys riding down the road on bicycles with logos all over their "touring gear". How much you reckon THAT costs them?

Want to advertise for PING by carrying their golf bag? What's THAT cost ya?

[snip]

I'll bet you $100

At any rate...this whole thing is just anopportunity for those who haven't been lucky enough to meet the right people or make the right contacts. I'd wager a fair bet that there are 100s if not 1000s of hunters in this country who are much better hunters and shooters than lets say Michael Waddell. But, none of them happened to meet Bill Jordan at just the right point in history. His real talent happens to be his ability to be entertaining in front of the camera. Anyone of us could stand up in front of a camera and smoke a doe....but....could you pull it off with style?

INteresting point, most of the Realtree guys were just chance meetings with Bill Jordan, and that has worked out well for them. I agree that style has a big part of it in the TV game, I'd much rather watch Waddell that some gomer with no personality. I'm sure others will disagree, but that is my opinion.

MichaelHunsucker 06-27-2007 10:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: Cay4redneck

Yea i agree with that. I think that they should pay you for your hunt. MTV licensed a video from me earlier this year.....hunting shows should do the same. They should make a hunting show where they accept tapes and the best ones get aired and the owners get paid!
There actually is a company that does this. I believe they are called weekend warrior outdoors or something like that. What they are doing is accepting footage from anyone who wants to send it in - so long as it fits their "guidlines" and they are planning on making a DVD of the best footage. If they use your footage you get a portion of the profits.

I think that they have a great idea here. Im interested to see what the come up with!

kdsberman 06-27-2007 10:45 AM

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ill bet you theres idiots that will do it.

LebeauHunter 06-27-2007 11:06 AM

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Now Hunsucker's deal is a lot different than the original idea of paying 1k.
I think that the collection from "amateurs" might make for a good video.

It's the YouTubization (sp? Preach) of hunting shows!

brucelanthier 06-27-2007 11:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: SwampCollie

At any rate...this whole thing is just anopportunity for those who haven't been lucky enough to meet the right people or make the right contacts. I'd wager a fair bet that there are 100s if not 1000s of hunters in this country who are much better hunters and shooters than lets say Michael Waddell. But, none of them happened to meet Bill Jordan at just the right point in history. His real talent happens to be his ability to be entertaining in front of the camera. Anyone of us could stand up in front of a camera and smoke a doe....but....could you pull it off with style?

As for paying to be on TV...thats retarted.
Not to get to far off topic but I was under the impression that Michael Waddell was winning turkey calling contests and that was how he met Bill Jordan. That was also how Mark Drury got started, winning turkey calling contests. Both of those guys were top notch turkey hunters before they ever spent one minute on TV. I am sure there are 100s or 1000s of better hunters but these guys didn't necessarily luck into it either. I imagine it would work the same for others, they enter "hunting type contests" (turkey calling, 3D, stuff like that), start winning them and then luck may play a part in if they were to get noticed or not. You can bet that if Waddell or Drury were lousy hunters they wouldn't have made it as far as they have.

huntingson 06-27-2007 11:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: brucelanthier

You can bet that if Waddell or Drury were lousy hunters they wouldn't have made it as far as they have.
Being a good hunter is not a necessity for being a successfulhunting show host. Your ability to get people to watch the show and purchase your sponsors' products is far more important. They go to ranches, almost always guided hunts, in places that most of us could not afford in order to shoot their trophies. They don't do much hunting, just a lot of shooting, and to be honest they are not very good at shooting. Wadell gut shoots more animals than he hits in the chest. There are a bunch of guys, even on this forum who can shoot better and hunt better than many of the "celebrities", but obviously they are good marketers and that is what it comes down to.

HuntingBry 06-27-2007 11:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: SwampCollie

At any rate...this whole thing is just anopportunity for those who haven't been lucky enough to meet the right people or make the right contacts. I'd wager a fair bet that there are 100s if not 1000s of hunters in this country who are much better hunters and shooters than lets say Michael Waddell. But, none of them happened to meet Bill Jordan at just the right point in history. His real talent happens to be his ability to be entertaining in front of the camera. Anyone of us could stand up in front of a camera and smoke a doe....but....could you pull it off with style?

As for paying to be on TV...thats retarted.
Not to get to far off topic but I was under the impression that Michael Waddell was winning turkey calling contests and that was how he met Bill Jordan. That was also how Mark Drury got started, winning turkey calling contests. Both of those guys were top notch turkey hunters before they ever spent one minute on TV. I am sure there are 100s or 1000s of better hunters but these guys didn't necessarily luck into it either. I imagine it would work the same for others, they enter "hunting type contests" (turkey calling, 3D, stuff like that), start winning them and then luck may play a part in if they were to get noticed or not. You can bet that if Waddell or Drury were lousy hunters they wouldn't have made it as far as they have.
Part of that too is personality. Both Mark Drury and Michael Waddell are very engaging and interesting people so you don't mind watching the non-hunting portions of their shows. I've seen a lot of videos out there where the hunting was pretty good, but the guys making it were boring. Some people just have that "it" in their personality.

$1,000 or $1 million it doesn't matter, you can't buy "it." You either have it or you don't.

brucelanthier 06-27-2007 11:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

Part of that too is personality. Both Mark Drury and Michael Waddell are very engaging and interesting people so you don't mind watching the non-hunting portions of their shows. I've seen a lot of videos out there where the hunting was pretty good, but the guys making it were boring. Some people just have that "it" in their personality.

$1,000 or $1 million it doesn't matter, you can't buy "it." You either have it or you don't.
I agree 100%


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