55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
06-18-2007 | 10:23 AM
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From: Michigan
RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
ORIGINAL: quiksilver
...and anybody who would ever let a child hunt deer with a 29# bow should permanently be stripped of his license. He'd never hunt with me, that's fo' shizzle. Matter of fact, if anybody ever thought they were hunting with me with a 45-pound peashooter, they'd have another thing coming. Stay home and play with your Cabbage Patch Kids.
...and anybody who would ever let a child hunt deer with a 29# bow should permanently be stripped of his license. He'd never hunt with me, that's fo' shizzle. Matter of fact, if anybody ever thought they were hunting with me with a 45-pound peashooter, they'd have another thing coming. Stay home and play with your Cabbage Patch Kids.
I'm not saying i agree with hunting deer with a 29# bow, but apparently it is possible to kill a deer with it. I do know if my kid could only pull 29# he wouldnt be hunting. Unless that 29# bow could shoot five arrows at once, most of the time 29# wont do too much. I think the girl that shot that deer got lucky..no offense to her.
06-18-2007 | 10:33 AM
#42
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RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
ORIGINAL: huntingson
First question is why are you so disrespectful? Yes, 55ft-lbsis plenty of KE. Thank you for helping my argument.My wife's bow at 41# (and it will be at 50# by the time season rolls around) is shooting 48 ftlbs of KE. That is plenty, especially with fixed blade broadheads. She also will only be shooting 20 yards and less. That bow at 50# will havealmost the sameKEas the 60# recurve, and that is with a 24" draw length!
My bottom line is that the draw weight does not have to be what it used to be for most big game species. Restrictions on KE make a lot more sense. If your argument were that no one should hunt with less than 50ft-lbs of KE, then at least I could see where you were coming from.Your current argument is like saying "If your biceps aren't X" in circumference you shouldn't be able to hunt." A rather weak argument indeed.
First question is why are you so disrespectful? Yes, 55ft-lbsis plenty of KE. Thank you for helping my argument.My wife's bow at 41# (and it will be at 50# by the time season rolls around) is shooting 48 ftlbs of KE. That is plenty, especially with fixed blade broadheads. She also will only be shooting 20 yards and less. That bow at 50# will havealmost the sameKEas the 60# recurve, and that is with a 24" draw length!
My bottom line is that the draw weight does not have to be what it used to be for most big game species. Restrictions on KE make a lot more sense. If your argument were that no one should hunt with less than 50ft-lbs of KE, then at least I could see where you were coming from.Your current argument is like saying "If your biceps aren't X" in circumference you shouldn't be able to hunt." A rather weak argument indeed.
I think she needs to look like this, if I am using Quick logic
06-18-2007 | 11:50 AM
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RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
ORIGINAL: davepjr71
huntignson,
I commend the way you are going about archery hunting with your wife. If you limit the range the lower draw weight bows are acceptable. And you are having her shoot the highest weight she can comfortably shoot.If more people would do that we wouldn't need this argument.
The problem comes in when people start flinging arrows at animals at distances their skills do not allow. I'm not going to recommend any minimum weight. Our ancestors were killing animals with weapons that were nowhere as lethal as what we have today.
In the same token I believe that you should use the highest weight you can in case of a mishap. Today's 45# definitely are more lethal than the 55# bowI started off with andI think if a person is using new technology that's just fine. I just hate the idea of an arrow sticking out of an animal due to insufficient energy. That's why I go as high asI can comfortably shoot.
huntignson,
I commend the way you are going about archery hunting with your wife. If you limit the range the lower draw weight bows are acceptable. And you are having her shoot the highest weight she can comfortably shoot.If more people would do that we wouldn't need this argument.
The problem comes in when people start flinging arrows at animals at distances their skills do not allow. I'm not going to recommend any minimum weight. Our ancestors were killing animals with weapons that were nowhere as lethal as what we have today.
In the same token I believe that you should use the highest weight you can in case of a mishap. Today's 45# definitely are more lethal than the 55# bowI started off with andI think if a person is using new technology that's just fine. I just hate the idea of an arrow sticking out of an animal due to insufficient energy. That's why I go as high asI can comfortably shoot.
06-18-2007 | 01:07 PM
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From: Balt, MD (orig: J-town,PA) The bowels of Hell!!!
RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
It looks more like the patent pictures that were on here for the Simm Limbsaver bow. The cams aren't even strung the same way on top and bottom. It must be a Matthews prototype.
06-18-2007 | 02:25 PM
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From: McDonald, PA
RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
I shoot at 70 lbs, I do it comfortably and thats why I stay at 70. That being said, I cant stand to see someone at my club shooting at 70 lbs and strugling everytime they draw their bow. They shoot 15 arrows and they need to take a half hour break. I would much rather see them shooting 55 lbs accurately than sitting in their treestand in the cold for 4 hours and not being able to draw their bow. But they are 20 years old and I have only been bow hunting longer than they have been alive but I dont know what i am talking about.
The other thing I hate is people who dont ever pull out their bow until 2 weeks before the season. I am not saying you need to shoot year round, but 2 weeks out of the year doesnt work for me. If you cant find the time to practice with you bow then you need to switch to a rifle.
The other thing I hate is people who dont ever pull out their bow until 2 weeks before the season. I am not saying you need to shoot year round, but 2 weeks out of the year doesnt work for me. If you cant find the time to practice with you bow then you need to switch to a rifle.
06-18-2007 | 04:04 PM
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From: HENDERSON KY USA
RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
ORIGINAL: quiksilver
Just my humble opinion here, but if you're not drawing at least 55#, you have no business bowhunting any kind of big game.
Sure, a 50# bow can deliver a lethal blow to a whitetail. So can a .22 Hornet, but you don't see many guys out there toting .22's on opening day. Why? Because it's ridiculous.
I just get so sick of hearing guys talk about taking their 11 year oldkids/wives out bowhunting with 40 pound bows, then talking to them 4 months later and getting the sob story about how Billy Bob Junior plugged an arrow in a doe's shoulder, or how Misses Billy Bob bounced an arrow off a scrub buck and couldn't recover it.
Bowhunting isn't a sissy sport. Sorry. IMO, if you can't man-up and draw enough bow to cut through some bone or generate significant penetration, you should stick to lead projectiles or playing with Barbies.
Face it, people get old, bones get brittle, joints go bad, most women aren't She-ra, and your kid isn't Little Hercules. There's a time to hunt and a time to hang it up. When you feel like you're having to bend the rules or cut corners just to meet the threshold physical requirements, then it's probably time to admit defeat and focus on rifle season.
Just my .02.
Just my humble opinion here, but if you're not drawing at least 55#, you have no business bowhunting any kind of big game.
Sure, a 50# bow can deliver a lethal blow to a whitetail. So can a .22 Hornet, but you don't see many guys out there toting .22's on opening day. Why? Because it's ridiculous.
I just get so sick of hearing guys talk about taking their 11 year oldkids/wives out bowhunting with 40 pound bows, then talking to them 4 months later and getting the sob story about how Billy Bob Junior plugged an arrow in a doe's shoulder, or how Misses Billy Bob bounced an arrow off a scrub buck and couldn't recover it.
Bowhunting isn't a sissy sport. Sorry. IMO, if you can't man-up and draw enough bow to cut through some bone or generate significant penetration, you should stick to lead projectiles or playing with Barbies.
Face it, people get old, bones get brittle, joints go bad, most women aren't She-ra, and your kid isn't Little Hercules. There's a time to hunt and a time to hang it up. When you feel like you're having to bend the rules or cut corners just to meet the threshold physical requirements, then it's probably time to admit defeat and focus on rifle season.
Just my .02.
You have just completely discredited yourself about efficiency of bows and their capabilities to the point of being laughable.
Why don't you go ahead and put a 30" draw length minimum in their too.That would would do more for energy than a few pounds.
Accuracy is first and foremost,then followed CLOSELY bytune.Poundage and draw length come way down the list.
I agree with germ,your 2 cents isn't worth that.
06-18-2007 | 04:23 PM
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RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
TFox - I got you a barbie doll to play with too.
Call Germ and maybe he'll let you borrow his Ken doll.
You guys can let us know when you're ready to man-up and shoot bow with the big kids.
Call Germ and maybe he'll let you borrow his Ken doll.
You guys can let us know when you're ready to man-up and shoot bow with the big kids.
