RE: QDMA What don't you like
 

bawana.......this might be me you're describing, this year. I'll pass up a LOT of young bucks.....and I might not shoot a buck....thereby eating the soup.

And yes....I'll shoot every doe that stands broadside and gives me a shot. Our biologist said it wouldn't hurt our herd a bit to take a buck. So....I might. I might not. Why does it matter which one I take?

I think the does deserve the respect the bucks get, too. But the bucks don't spit out little ones. If I had too many bucks....I'd be shooting them.

RE: QDMA What don't you like
 

BawJ you can not have a reduction in a herd size by shooting bucks only. Can not be done. Shooting just bucks will explode a states or area's population.

You think QDMA thinks less of does? If so that is fine I will pass that along.

RE: QDMA What don't you like
 

"If I had too many bucks....I'd be shooting them"

That was too good to not repeat!

So there, what he said - yeah!

Put it in your pipe and smoke it boy!

Come-on! Come-on! What you got now... huh...

You gonna cry? You gonna cry? Come on...... Cry....

RE: QDMA What don't you like
 

I never said not to shoot does.

What I did say is if you" should " shoot the first "doe" then you" should "shoot the first " buck "also.

Because its not about the " horns " ;);););)

RE: QDMA What don't you like
 

You do know Folgers makes decaf, right?:D

RE: QDMA What don't you like
 

In a lot of places if guys would shoot 1 buck(any) for 1 doe things would be a lot better.;)

You are correct it has nothing to do with horns:D

RE: QDMA What don't you like
 

Two thingsabout state-mandated QDM (antler restrictions).

SLOB HUNTERS:

Since PA has implemented antler restrictions, I find no less than 4-6 deer per year (bucks) left to rot in the woods because they were "ground checked" and failed to meet the restriction criteria. Obviously, this is counter-productive.

Your hunters are the stewards of the program, and if you get one guy in every patch of woods just groundchecking every buck he sees - he might kill 2-3-4 bucks before he finds a legal one.

You also have lower success rates for the buck kill, which frustrates a lot of hunters, and causes them to whine a lot, or engage in "less than ethical" behavior to kill a deer. Your average schmuck is happy going out and hammering a spike. Mostguys have never had to pass up a buck. It doesn't sit well.

Honestly, I've never heard so much pathetic whining in my life, as I've heard from the PA hunting ranks over this antler law.

Personally, I think it's great - and have enjoyed the best 5-6 years of my hunting career since it began. Some people would look any gift horse in the mouth, I guess.

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Problem #2 - GREED

You'll never see posters go up so fast. Everybody starts this whole "my property, my deer" culture, where they think they have to horde "their" deer from everyone else, and really start tightening the clamps on who gets in there to hunt. Posters have gone up like wallpaper around here over the 5 years since AR's began. Exclusive leases popping up all over the place, too.

Of course, if you do your homework, and you're a decent person, you won't have a problem finding a place to hunt. It might not be the best spot in the world, but if you're good at what you do, you'll fill your tags.
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In my honest opinion, PA has 1 Million+ hunters, and they're packed like rats in an ever-shrinking huntable acreage. Our problem isn't with AR's so much as it is with the overpopulation of hunters and Hunter-Hunter conflicts. AR's would work great in an area where you have more room to breathe, and guys don't feel like they have to shoot the first buck they see, before somebody else does.

RE: QDMA What don't you like
 

That's a good point Germ and realistically in areas that have doe to buck ratios of 4 to 1 or higher, just do the math on that if you kill5 bucks you should kill20 does just to keep that ratio and more than 20 doesif you want to improve it. That is a lot of slickheads, how many people are doing that.

RE: QDMA What don't you like
 

You are very right about that...................and all most right about the secondone.;)

RE: QDMA What don't you like
 

If there were 30 bucks and 30 does in the herd I hunt.....you'd be right, bawana. I'd shoot one to one.

I likely have a LOT more does than bucks, though. Isn't the "ideal" a 1:1 ratio? Shouldn't that be what I should be striving for?

I don't give a rat's ass about being "fair" (i.e. taking 1:1). I want the ratio to be better.