Then I can tell you with 100% certainty that the release CAN slip off the string loop. it happened to me, twice. I lost total confidence in it......and sold it.

Perhaps they've made some advances in the design, but I don't think it will. When cocked, the release head completely closes around the loop, no gaps. The only way it can misfire is if someone touches the trigger while drawing.

Dan,

I've seen a few people I think the hunting community views as successful use them... Stan Potts and Lee Lakosky. I think Gibblet had some valid points about using one for hunting, and I may try in a couple years myself. My new Scott Wildcat is just working so perfectly for my hunting setup though right now I'm a little loathe to change.

I will be picking up a new Carter BT release this winter though to use with my brand-new Constitution as I get into 3D. I'm probably looking in the direction of the Just Cuz + right now... I'd like to try a few out for fit, but there's virtually NO shops around here that carries any at all. My fingers are on the smaller side, and I like the looks of the Fits Me Too but I'd have to be sure my finger would fit in the hole before shelling out the money for one. There was a great buy on e-bay last week for one, but I just wasn't sure...

I'm not contradicting you.....just wondering....if ther eis NO gap.....HOW does it "release"? If it's a totally closed loop.......I don't see how it can release your loop/string. Again....just rying to learn.

It's like a hook, Jeff. Half of a double caliper, if you will. Its got enough of an angle that a full circle can be made while cocked, but not severe enough that your loop won't slide out when fired.

I'll play around with it a bit more today and get back to you. As for now, I'm off to work. Have a good day, guys.

gmmatt, using the rope on the release if for when a person doesn't shoot a d-loop. when using a d-loop you don't use the rope on the release- you take it off.

They make several different hook systems. The Target 4 has the release hook close against the body of the release to trap the loop and can be attached either before or after cocking the sear. I've used this one a lot with a loop and can't see how it would be possible for a loop to slip through unless some really skinny line was used for the loop, but no way with standard loop cord. (however, that's neither here nor there, maybe there was something out of whack with your particular release.) The Big Kid 3D hook totally encloses the loop and is attached by pushing the loop into a slot in the head of the release and then cocking the sear; absolutely impossible for a loop to slip off of any diameter (but the loop has to be sufficiently stiff to apply pressure on the back of the hook to get it to close before cocking it). The Ember is an open ended hook designed specifically for shooting with a loop; you just cock it, hook the loop and draw. You could dump the loop on this one if you cammed it far enough (similar to a BT release) as you drew it but it would take a serious screw up to do it (having the release upside down and all your fingers coming off the release except your index).

I used a Carter Insatiable 2 for awhile and tried an Evolution. I agree with Dan and Gibblet in that once cocked I don't see how the loop or rope could slip through without the release being triggered. Very strange.

I will not be hunting with a Carter because I just could not get used to a thumb trigger and while some hunt with pure back tension, that's not for me. They did just come out with a release called the Strapless which is an index finger release that is held like a thumb trigger. I may try this out if I get a chance, but probably not this year.

Good luck if you go with the Chocolate Addiction, a lot of people like that release very much.

Is there a way it could get in a bind while your hand is "rotating" into the thumb down position? I'm SERIOUSLY wanting to try one of these releases again (a Scott Longhorn)......and I'd just like to know what was going on...before I go down this road, again.

The way I was connecting the release.......my "fist" was "horizontal". Then....I'd rotate my hand to the thumbs-down position to rest on my cheek.

Am I making sense?

Jeff, that makes perfect sense. I had accidental releases too (one of the reasons I'm not shooting it now). I would draw and rotate my hand to anchor then as I was settling in if I adjusted my anchor and my thumb was on the trigger I would accidentally set it off. I lost and bust $30 in ACCs this way.[:@] I had a medium spring in it, but it was enough to set it off. That is why I decided I had to go away from the thumb release.

I would imagine you were doing something similar.