Chuck Adams report on Aluminum Arrows
06-02-2007 | 10:03 PM
#21
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From: Montana
RE: Chuck Adams report on Aluminum Arrows
In the end it doesn't really matter if you shoot carbon or aluminum arrows. It all comes down to preseason preparation and feeling confident with your equipment. As for Chunk, he's paid to endorse products. Do you really believe that it is his equipment that enables him to shoot the quality of animals that he harvests? Or do you think that it is his access to the world class hunting grounds that he is able to hunt? Maybe his outfitters and guides also have something to do with it.But I will give him credit for his prehunt preparation and knowing his equipment that he is using. Although it is his job.
06-03-2007 | 09:10 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Where the ducks don't come no more
RE: Chuck Adams report on Aluminum Arrows
ORIGINAL: Buellhunter
I think Chuck is just telling us why "he" prefers Aluminum.
Easton makes carbon arrows too as well as owning Beman
Not sure they would "pay" him to specifically steer everyone away from carbon arrows?
I used aluminum arrows for many years and they worked fine, they still do.
Been shooting carbons for the last 5 years or so and they work also.
My advise would be to try both and see which ones work best for you and your set up.
I think Chuck is just telling us why "he" prefers Aluminum.
Easton makes carbon arrows too as well as owning Beman
Not sure they would "pay" him to specifically steer everyone away from carbon arrows?
I used aluminum arrows for many years and they worked fine, they still do.
Been shooting carbons for the last 5 years or so and they work also.
My advise would be to try both and see which ones work best for you and your set up.
Original: markj
I have a theory that they may prefer he stay with aluminum since they are the by far main player in the aluminum arrow market. But the carbon market has many big players. So to continue to dominate the aluminum market Chuck is a good guy to help.
That is just a theory. But I would say Chuck is the kind of guy that will stick with what works for him. I think he still shoots w/fingers??
I have a theory that they may prefer he stay with aluminum since they are the by far main player in the aluminum arrow market. But the carbon market has many big players. So to continue to dominate the aluminum market Chuck is a good guy to help.
That is just a theory. But I would say Chuck is the kind of guy that will stick with what works for him. I think he still shoots w/fingers??
06-03-2007 | 01:27 PM
#23
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RE: Chuck Adams report on Aluminum Arrows
All I know is that with my Tribute, set at 74#, 25 1/2" shafts, 100 grain, 4 blade Muzzys, fall away rest, that I tried 3 different arrows(none of which were aluminum) and the Maxima 350 w/ short Quickspins flies as true and straight as anything I have ever shot over the last 23 years of bowhunting--which did include xx75's for several years prior.
06-03-2007 | 03:12 PM
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RE: Chuck Adams report on Aluminum Arrows
ORIGINAL: fishantler
In the end it doesn't really matter if you shoot carbon or aluminum arrows. It all comes down to preseason preparation and feeling confident with your equipment. As for Chunk, he's paid to endorse products. Do you really believe that it is his equipment that enables him to shoot the quality of animals that he harvests? Or do you think that it is his access to the world class hunting grounds that he is able to hunt? Maybe his outfitters and guides also have something to do with it.But I will give him credit for his prehunt preparation and knowing his equipment that he is using. Although it is his job.
In the end it doesn't really matter if you shoot carbon or aluminum arrows. It all comes down to preseason preparation and feeling confident with your equipment. As for Chunk, he's paid to endorse products. Do you really believe that it is his equipment that enables him to shoot the quality of animals that he harvests? Or do you think that it is his access to the world class hunting grounds that he is able to hunt? Maybe his outfitters and guides also have something to do with it.But I will give him credit for his prehunt preparation and knowing his equipment that he is using. Although it is his job.
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06-03-2007 | 05:00 PM
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RE: Chuck Adams report on Aluminum Arrows
Those who visit the Technical forum and read some of my posts know my stance on all carbon arrows. They rarely achieve the consistent straightness and spine consistency of aluminum. In order to achieve close to those characteristics of aluminum, you really have to pay about $150+ for all carbon arrows. I know I'll hear it from the 'staff' shooters but, like Chuck, they're paid in various ways for their allegiance.
Within a batch of qualityaluminums, you'll get 99% of them to be exceptional. Within a batch of quality all carbon arrows, you'll get anywhere from 40% to 95% to be acceptable. The lighter weight offering, better durability, and quicker recovery off the string made them a welcome addition to arrow technology.
As moston this forumwho know arrows well will attest, A/C/C (aluminum, carbon composite) is one of the best arrows built; but, it is not quite as durable as many hunters like. The Beman CarbonMetal Matrix was a hunting version that was the predecessor of the A/C SuperSlim. Couple those choices with the Easton Axis FMJ and you've got a wider choice. Now hunters who like the quality of A/C/C in a more rugged hunting weight have the best of both worlds - aluminum quality and carbon durability in a hunting weight.
The reason I use the term 'hunting weight' is that more and more are finding that they're not getting the penetration they desire out of the lighter carbon arrows. Even the standard all carbon manufacturers are leaning towards heavier offerings. Carbon Express started years ago with offering weight tubes and now offer the heavier MaximaHunters as well as Terminators. CarbonTech offers the Rhino and the much heavier Safari.
The marriage of technologies is not a new trend. Many industries have found that the old, coupled with the new, offers the best all-around product to the larger customer base.
Within a batch of qualityaluminums, you'll get 99% of them to be exceptional. Within a batch of quality all carbon arrows, you'll get anywhere from 40% to 95% to be acceptable. The lighter weight offering, better durability, and quicker recovery off the string made them a welcome addition to arrow technology.
As moston this forumwho know arrows well will attest, A/C/C (aluminum, carbon composite) is one of the best arrows built; but, it is not quite as durable as many hunters like. The Beman CarbonMetal Matrix was a hunting version that was the predecessor of the A/C SuperSlim. Couple those choices with the Easton Axis FMJ and you've got a wider choice. Now hunters who like the quality of A/C/C in a more rugged hunting weight have the best of both worlds - aluminum quality and carbon durability in a hunting weight.
The reason I use the term 'hunting weight' is that more and more are finding that they're not getting the penetration they desire out of the lighter carbon arrows. Even the standard all carbon manufacturers are leaning towards heavier offerings. Carbon Express started years ago with offering weight tubes and now offer the heavier MaximaHunters as well as Terminators. CarbonTech offers the Rhino and the much heavier Safari.
The marriage of technologies is not a new trend. Many industries have found that the old, coupled with the new, offers the best all-around product to the larger customer base.
06-03-2007 | 05:58 PM
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Typical Buck
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RE: Chuck Adams report on Aluminum Arrows
ORIGINAL: MDBUCKHUNTER
Ugh...you can get much better carbons for under $100. Look into Gold Tip.
Comparing Aluminums to Bemans is like comparting a Porsche to a Honda Civic.
ORIGINAL: Leverdude
Bought some carbons recently but I'v always used Alluminum before, XX78, XX75 & cheapo fall stalkers. The carbons I got were a dozen Beeman & a dozen cabellas.
The ICS hunters werent as straight as the cheapo fall stalkers tho they fly fine & about half shoot well with fixed blades. The cabellas I havent cut yet but theyre even less straight.
Bought the carbons because I was ruining arrows on 3D shoots & theyre definately more durable.
I'll see what happens but I may still use my 2219's for hunting.
Almost seems the great trend towards mechs was caused by the swing towards carbons.
One things for sure, if I need to spend $150 a dozen to get STRAIGHT carbons it'll never happen.
ORIGINAL: Bullet Hole Bailey
Yeah i guess so, but if you or anyone was to go to aluminum would you go with the XX75's or the XX78's?
Or those of you that do shoot aluminum, what do you shoot?
Yeah i guess so, but if you or anyone was to go to aluminum would you go with the XX75's or the XX78's?
Or those of you that do shoot aluminum, what do you shoot?
The ICS hunters werent as straight as the cheapo fall stalkers tho they fly fine & about half shoot well with fixed blades. The cabellas I havent cut yet but theyre even less straight.
Bought the carbons because I was ruining arrows on 3D shoots & theyre definately more durable.
I'll see what happens but I may still use my 2219's for hunting.
Almost seems the great trend towards mechs was caused by the swing towards carbons.
One things for sure, if I need to spend $150 a dozen to get STRAIGHT carbons it'll never happen.
Comparing Aluminums to Bemans is like comparting a Porsche to a Honda Civic.
Cant speak from experience but it seems locally its about an even split between ICS & Gold tips. Are you saying Gold tips are better?
