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Austin/WI 05-16-2007 03:10 PM

Land Owner...Yes or No
 
Ok, so after reading GMMAT's post and not wanting to hijack his successful idea, I had a thought to ask the landowners what they have actually done. So, for those of you who haven't been following GMMAT's post the original question was along the lines of: If you shoot a deer and it crosses onto another's property, will you go and retrieve it, knowing that you are breaking the law?

To make this more clean cut. As a landowner, have you ever denied access toor pressed charges on someone who came in or wanted to come in,to get a deer they shot on their own property (or public land) and then who IMMEDIATELY left your property.

BowHuntingFool 05-16-2007 03:15 PM

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I have no problem with someone coming on my land to retrieve a downed animal they legally killed. Out of respect, I just want to know they are about to do it because I would do the same! I will let you know that I would be on your property!

PreacherTony 05-16-2007 04:27 PM

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I was a landowner, and I never gave it a thought when guys retrieved their deer ..... I would help them look!

Like i said in the other post, in my area, guys just help others recover their deer ..... landowners aren't overprotective nut bags spending their lives waiting for their chance to arrest someone from recovering a deer shot on the neighboring land...

drhntr178 05-16-2007 05:02 PM

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If your retreiving a deer, come on over, Ill even help you track it whether youcall me 1st or I see in the process of doing so.

130woodman 05-16-2007 06:14 PM

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Call me first and I will go out and help. If you don't ask then you are tresspassing.

Austin/WI 05-16-2007 07:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: 130woodman

Call me first and I will go out and help. If you don't ask then you are tresspassing.
But would you raise up a big stink about it? Would you press charges or justfind out who it was and talk to him about it, tell him just call me first next time, etc.? Or do you just let it go?Just curious.

chucker34 05-16-2007 07:51 PM

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Own land. Let them get it as long as weren't hunting on my property without permission. No need to ask in that case. Know they would treat me the same in my area.

Austin/WI 05-16-2007 07:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: chucker34

Own land. Let them get it as long as weren't hunting on my property without permission. No need to ask in that case. Know they would treat me the same in my area.
That is the kind of answer I was hoping to see. A true hunter to hunter kind of treatment of the situation. Thank You!

130woodman 05-16-2007 08:06 PM

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It depends on who it is. Last year I had stuff stolen,people in my own hunting party not following the rules.So I have gotten a little testy over the last year about uninvited guests and people on my land.In most cases I would let it go but there is one guy that hunts across the street from me and he knows he is not welcome and if I caught him without asking yes I would put the scews to him,but anybody else I would let know that they were tresspassing and next time call me first then go find the deer. Does that answer your question? I quess I should have explained deeper the first time.

Austin/WI 05-16-2007 08:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: 130woodman

It depends on who it is. Last year I had stuff stolen,people in my own hunting party not following the rules.So I have gotten a little testy over the last year about uninvited guests and people on my land.In most cases I would let it go but there is one guy that hunts across the street from me and he knows he is not welcome and if I caught him without asking yes I would put the scews to him,but anybody else I would let know that they were tresspassing and next time call me first then go find the deer. Does that answer your question? I quess I should have explained deeper the first time.
That answers it beautifully, and I fully understand your reasoning. It sounds like the same kind of reasoning I would use to decide who could come on my land (hypothetically speaking of course, for I own diddly squat).

MdDave 05-16-2007 10:02 PM

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to the people who expect to be called first..... i have no cell phone i shoot a deer with an hour of light left it jus starting drizzling an its 70-75 degress out.... IM GOIN AFTER MY DEER.... no way am i goin home to make a phone call.. nor am i gonna wait till the next morning cause the deer wont be no good in the warmer temps an the rain washed any blood away.... would you still expect to be called first?

130woodman 05-17-2007 06:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: MdDave

to the people who expect to be called first..... i have no cell phone i shoot a deer with an hour of light left it jus starting drizzling an its 70-75 degress out.... IM GOIN AFTER MY DEER.... no way am i goin home to make a phone call.. nor am i gonna wait till the next morning cause the deer wont be no good in the warmer temps an the rain washed any blood away.... would you still expect to be called first?
Yes I do expect a call.By law you have no right to be on private property and are tresspassing. In my case there are 4 houses with in a mile of my property and all have phones. Your case may be differant,there might not be any houses around."BUT"
As hunters we have to respect other peoples property. If we don't it gives us all bad names.Don't get me wrong I would want every deer to be recovered but you can't side step the law because you have a wounded deer.

BobCo19-65 05-17-2007 07:30 AM

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Basically, in order to enter my property, you have to have written permission. Some of my firends have full access written permission. And some of the neighbors have blood trailing only written permission. But there has to be a visable blood trail crossing the boundry. All of the rest that need to enter the land must have someone with written permision get the deer.

In the past I would allow anyone who needed to retrieve game do it. Unfortunately, I had one neighbor that I caught on my land repeatedly tell me he was trailing a wounded deer. Unfortunately each time he could not provide the blood trail, and in my mind he was hunting and abusing his privledges. Needless to say, he does not have written permission to enter the land in any circumstance. He would need toget someone with permission to retrieve any game. And if I catch himin any circumstance, he will be turned in. I always appreciate the person who will be hunting near my land to come and talk to me about things like this before an event happens. It gives me a chance to talk to the person and get to know them a bit.
Its the person that shows no respect, enters the land,and acts like they have aright to be on my land that I have a problem with.


ryanaller 05-17-2007 07:40 AM

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This happened to me a few years ago. I arrowed a deer and he went running straight for the fence and into the neighboring property. I've known this guy for years so I simply called him from my stand and told him what had happened and to see if he would mind me going after it. I also wanted to make sure nobody was hunting there right now. (Nothing iritates me more than waking up early to hunt, get situated and a few hours later you see someone walking underneath you.) If someone ever calls meand asks to retrieve an animal I am also more than happy to go out and help them look.

Germ 05-17-2007 07:41 AM

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I caught are neighbor looking for there deer one night. Yes they got a ride from the cops and there 4 wheeler taken.

If they would have called we would have help them. Yes I found the deer for them and gave it to them the next morning.
I will note that these guys are know violaters, we do not have the best relationship. I do not want a deer to waste, so I put our differnce aside to help them.

About 2 years later they shot a little fawn in the front shoulder. I saw it go down and knew it was them. I gutted the deer and carried it(with 1 finger:D) to the road. It was late and I seen them stop and watch me. They were going to do it again, LOL I flagged them down and tossed the damn deer in their truck;)

Now itdoes not matter since there house and land was foreclosed on.

Like I said with todays cell phone there is no reason notto call, or communicate with the owner before hand.

Champlain Islander 05-17-2007 08:07 AM

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I am a land owner in addition to my primary dwelling and land. I have a hunting camp along with some land in a rural part of the state. I do believe in property rights and would never personally trespass on posted land without permission. My landfor the record is not posted and I welcome hunters orhikers on my property.This is an open hunting state and we have the rights to hunt on private land that is not posted. The issue of a mortally wounded deer crossing on a neighbors property isn't really an issue here since almost all property owners will allow access to remove the animal. The areas I like to hunt are for the most part not posted. In the event that someone does not give permission (an anti )a call to a local Game Warden will allow access with him present.

GMMAT 05-17-2007 08:16 AM

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I'm ONLY asking to settle my own theory......

Of the split in "outlooks" on this.....I'm wondering what the AGE split is?

I'm interested. What do you all think?

Champlain Islander 05-17-2007 08:39 AM

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58 here and when I was 25 I probably would have crossed the line to be honest. With age comes wisdom....then senility.:D

IL-Cornfed 05-17-2007 09:00 AM

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Landowner

In Illinois it's illegal to enter private property to retieve wounded game and, like it or not, every person that hunts in Illinois must respect that. Thus, I fully expect a call before anyone enters MY property to retrieve their game.... if not, face charges.




fletch920 05-17-2007 09:34 AM

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I would help them look. Here it is legal to track a wounded animal onto neighboring property as long as you do not take a weapon with you. I would allow them to bring a weapon if I could help them track incase it was necessary to shoot the deer again.

Austin/WI 05-17-2007 10:33 AM

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These are all great answers guys! I too find the age part of this interesting. Maybe for another thread and poll....


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