Guardian cam lean - fact or fiction???
04-08-2007, 06:02 AM
#11
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
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RE: Guardian cam lean - fact or fiction???
ORIGINAL: Len in Maryland
Germ:
The GT 75-95 is a very stiff arrow. One cam bows like stiff arrows, but they are not as necessary on two cam bows. Besides, the consistentspine of a that arrow is questionable. With the tear the way you describe, it indicates a possible over-spined condition.
I've tuned quite a few 31" Guardians and just one on Friday -Trestand's. They all tuned just fine. Trestand is very happy with his. He just posted on Davidmil's thread.
Germ:
The GT 75-95 is a very stiff arrow. One cam bows like stiff arrows, but they are not as necessary on two cam bows. Besides, the consistentspine of a that arrow is questionable. With the tear the way you describe, it indicates a possible over-spined condition.
I've tuned quite a few 31" Guardians and just one on Friday -Trestand's. They all tuned just fine. Trestand is very happy with his. He just posted on Davidmil's thread.
04-08-2007, 08:21 AM
#13
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Phoenixville, PA USA
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RE: Guardian cam lean - fact or fiction???
Atlas, LOL. You love to push buttons.
Len, on that site it seems like everything is blown out of proportion. I have been a member of that site for nearly five years and I've posted less than 100 times.
Anyone who has followed he Guardian knows that the cam design was made to eliminate the cam lean that has plagued BowTech the last several years. So it would seem that the problems that exist are most likely manufacturing problems, archer induced with tinkering, or specific to certain specs/set ups.
Personally, my biggest issue with the Guardian is the draw. If they could get that draw like the Allegiance with smooth cams, OMG!!!
And I think we both agree that things are being blown out of proportion.
Anyone who has followed he Guardian knows that the cam design was made to eliminate the cam lean that has plagued BowTech the last several years. So it would seem that the problems that exist are most likely manufacturing problems, archer induced with tinkering, or specific to certain specs/set ups.
Personally, my biggest issue with the Guardian is the draw. If they could get that draw like the Allegiance with smooth cams, OMG!!!
04-08-2007, 11:33 AM
#14
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Alvo Nebraska USA
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RE: Guardian cam lean - fact or fiction???
Being the chronic tinkerer that I am,, I decided to make up a shoot through harness for my Guardian. It uses a double cable rod arrangement to keep the cables from turning and spread out a little more than what the old Proline spreaders that I had would allow. I shot it some and chronoed the set up with the exact same draw length and draw weight. I was expecting to gain a little speed but it still shot the same as the standard factory harness that came on the bow. What I did finally notice was that the shoot through harness allowed a bit more cable/cam clearance at full draw. I had about 1/8" to 3/16" with the stock harness and it went out to more than 1/4" with the shoot through. The other thing,, and that's why I went back to the stock harness was that the cams now leaned A BIT away from the factory cable rod. With the factory harness, there is no cam lean at full draw or at brace.
I guess sometimes there's not much improving to do on a great bow to start with
I guess sometimes there's not much improving to do on a great bow to start with
04-08-2007, 12:27 PM
#20
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Baltimore Maryland USA
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RE: Guardian cam lean - fact or fiction???
atlasman:
A full draw tool for the general public is available from Apple Archery under their part number 0722. I designed it and they produce/sell it. It allows you to perform about 10+ different functions on a bow.
WWAG:
Man with my own heart. You do like to tinker, don't you?
A full draw tool for the general public is available from Apple Archery under their part number 0722. I designed it and they produce/sell it. It allows you to perform about 10+ different functions on a bow.
WWAG:
Man with my own heart. You do like to tinker, don't you?