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Old 04-04-2007 | 07:42 AM
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You guys crack me up..... Golf and bowhunting are two different creatures.... GMMAT I cannot understand why mostevery discussion on the board, you try to relate it to golf?

Bowhunting is bowhunting....

I am a carpenter... Should I relate everything to what brand of hand and power tools thebest carpenters use?

No, that would be silly.
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Old 04-04-2007 | 07:57 AM
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Buckeye...

It has NOTHING to do with the game of golf......and I would think that would be HIGHLY apparent.

The correlation is the best players/shooters. NOTHING more. You COULD use carpentry just as easily. Worm-drive sawsvs. non.....types of tools used byjourneyman vs."std."....what CRAFTSMEN utilize vs. what your average weekendhandyman building his kid a birdhouse uses. The"games" are different. Quality oftools utilized to perform tasks are "relative".....andCAN show a correlation.

There have been plenty of ducks killed with single shot 2-1/2" capable shotguns over the years. I'm not going afield with one in AR, though.....if you send me there to try and be "successful".
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Old 04-04-2007 | 07:58 AM
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The best 3D shooters and the best hunters "I" know utilize what they do for a reason, I'm betting. I just don't see many of the people I cite utilizing the WB.
Please list in detail what these "best" use.

I want to be the best and now know I have to use their equipment to be so.

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Old 04-04-2007 | 08:04 AM
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Fair question, Steve....

The BEST hunters and 3D shooters "I" know use a fall-away type rest. I'm sure there are exceptions to EVERY "rule",.....but I answered the question you asked of me.

Do your own poll.....and see who weighs in. Find out, for yourself who uses what.....and figure out if YOU want to be using the items THEY utilize, or not. I did my own field test of several items.....and I've decided....based on THOSE experiences AND the experience of people "I" trust....what works best, for me.
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Old 04-04-2007 | 08:07 AM
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Buckeye...

It has NOTHING to do with the game of golf......and I would think that would be HIGHLY apparent.

The correlation is the best players/shooters. NOTHING more. You COULD use carpentry just as easily. Worm-drive sawsvs. non.....types of tools used byjourneyman vs."std."....what CRAFTSMEN utilize vs. what your average weekendhandyman building his kid a birdhouse uses. The"games" are different. Quality oftools utilized to perform tasks are "relative".....andCAN show a correlation.

There have been plenty of ducks killed with single shot 2-1/2" capable shotguns over the years. I'm not going afield with one in AR, though.....if you send me there to try and be "successful".
I am a journeyman carpenter and I guarantee that I don't have the best of the tools. I buy american made tools that have a lifetime warranty. Are the brands I buy the best? I don't know but if I break them I get a new one no questions asked.

About the best 3D shooters..... Most pros don't even use dropaway rests for competition. They use a spring steel style launcher arm.
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Old 04-04-2007 | 08:18 AM
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I just don't see the MAJORITY (not even close) of serious archery enthusiasts utilizing a WB. I dont think they see the benefits as being something important to them (full arrow containment). Besides this claim to fame......WHY else would you choose this rest over a fall-away?
I use it because it is simple, durableand it works. The full aarow containment is an obvisous bonus, but if it did not work, I would not keep using it simply to fully contain my aarow. I use it over a fall away because the fall away's have moving parts and I am not comfortable with that. I can't speak for the "serious archery enthusiasts" that you speak of because I do not know them , but I could not care less what anyone else is using and it is never a factor in what I choose. If it works for me and I am comfortable with it.........I use it.

The best 3D shooters and the best hunters "I" know utilize what they do for a reason, I'm betting. I just don't see many of the people I cite utilizing the WB
GMMAT and I don't want to come off as rude here but, if I didn't already know about the problems you experienced with your WB, I would say that you switched to a fall away because that is what everyone around you was using and being new to bowhunting, you assumed that the fall away is the way to go since everyone else is using it.

The "best" hunters I know are not really concerned with what equiptment they have or use, but moreso they are concerned with the hunt.The equiptment must work and they must be comfortable with it, but the most important thing is the hunt. They did not become the "best" by choosing certain equiptment. They became great hunters because of preparation, scouting, and paying attention along with endless hours on stand.



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Old 04-04-2007 | 08:20 AM
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Buckeye....

"I" prefaced ALL "my" comments with "I".

"I" don't know any serious shooters that use a WB. Maybe "I" don't know too many "serious" shooters, but NOONE "I" know uses one to shoot 3D (and FEW hunt with one).

Anything else interjected into this is semantics as far as "I" am concerned. If you have different experiences.....psot 'em up!

We've (HNI community) got some guys who swear by this rest.....and I'm willing to concede that they're GREAT hunters (results speak for themselves, I would think). I have "my" idea of whose opinions I take to heart in here (and among my friends).....and others have theirs. I'm not syaing ANY of them are wrong or better than anyone else's. Never have.
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Old 04-04-2007 | 08:25 AM
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GMMAT and I don't want to come off as rude here but, if I didn't already know about the problems you experienced with your WB, I would say that you switched to a fall away because that is what everyone around you was using and being new to bowhunting, you assumed that the fall away is the way to go since everyone else is using it.

The "best" hunters I know are not really concerned with what equiptment they have or use, but moreso they are concerned with the hunt.The equiptment must work and they must be comfortable with it, but the most important thing is the hunt. They did not become the "best" by choosing certain equiptment. They became great hunters because of preparation, scouting, and paying attention along with endless hours on stand.
The thing is, Gus...I switched because I had a bad EXPERIENCE. I ONLY knew I didnt want to keep using the rest I was using. I din't have any experience with another type. I relied on my pro shop owner's expertise to choose another rest (and it wasn't the one he was using). THAT is why I chose the rest I did. If I didn't have any ecperience with a tool.....I'd trust the people that know about them before I made another buying decision. that's what I did.

In regards to your second paragraph.....i concur, wholeheartedly.
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Old 04-04-2007 | 08:35 AM
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Buckeye....

"I" prefaced ALL "my" comments with "I".

"I" don't know any serious shooters that use a WB. Maybe "I" don't know too many "serious" shooters, but NOONE "I" know uses one to shoot 3D (and FEW hunt with one).
You also said you don't know any shooters that use a spring steel (which from what you have been saying must be the best because thats what thepros use.) so it must not be a very good rest either.... After all no one you know uses one.

I am not debating the WB here but rather your outlook on this subject.
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Old 04-04-2007 | 08:43 AM
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You also said you don't know any shooters that use a spring steel (which from what you have been saying must be the best because thats what thepros use.)
When did I say this?

Honestly......this is going nowhere.
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