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HuntinGUS 04-02-2007 12:06 PM

RE: Boo Biscuit?
 
For all of you drop away rest guys. Does the additional moving parts not concern you? There are a lot of thins that could go wrong...........



GMMAT 04-02-2007 12:13 PM

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Fair question, Gus.

No. It doesn't scare me. I've shot thousands of arrows through mine with NO issues.There's a Possibility that the moving parts (my bow limbs loading) might break, too....but I don't dwell on things that have never happened to me 9or my equipment).

That's an honest answer.

HuntinGUS 04-02-2007 12:35 PM

RE: Boo Biscuit?
 

Fair question, Gus.

No. It doesn't scare me. I've shot thousands of arrows through mine with NO issues.There's a Possibility that the moving parts (my bow limbs loading) might break, too....but I don't dwell on things that have never happened to me 9or my equipment).

That's an honest answer.
I know that the movement of limbs happen and I quess I feel like that is something that cannot be controlled IMO.

The moving parts of a rest would scrare me and that is the main reason I have never considered using one. What if that little cord stretches, wouldn't that cause a change in you aarow flight?.......or breaks? Do you carry extra parts for it just in case?

I would be second guessing that thing while on stand to the point it would drive me crazy.I am sure it works great, but the "What if" is enough to keep me away........







GMMAT 04-02-2007 12:59 PM

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GUS:

Just like with ANY piece of hunting equipment (or anything else)......we rely on past experiences to form our individual opinions of the "risks" we're willing to take.....or the side effects of utilizing a specific piece of equipment we're willing to live with.

I respect your choice. Your rest has never failed you. The one I use, now, never has, either.

HuntinGUS 04-02-2007 01:05 PM

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Just like with ANY piece of hunting equipment (or anything else)......we rely on past experiences to form our individual opinions of the "risks" we're willing to take.....or the side effects of utilizing a specific piece of equipment we're willing to live with.
I agree.Feeling comfortable with your equiptment is the main thing. I hope I didn't make you paraniod!!!!:) I thought about that after I typed it.


I respect your choice. Your rest has never failed you. The one I use, now, never has, either.
If it did fail me I would blame it on Atlas j/k really. Let the record show I WAS JUST KIDDING.

:D



atlasman 04-02-2007 01:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: HuntinGUS

I would blame it on Atlas

You wouldn't be the first

turtleshell 04-02-2007 01:21 PM

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Boy it doesn't take much for Atlas to get you GMMAT. If you're that bothered why not just not reply to anyof his posts or comments? I don't really want you to do that though because I find it all way too entertaining. Keep up the good work guys. BTW I love my WB. If it makes any noiseI don't think it could possibly be any louder than my heartbeat at the moment of truth. JMHO

Germ 04-02-2007 01:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: HuntinGUS

I would blame it on Atlas

You wouldn't be the first
Or the last;)

the kidd 04-02-2007 03:34 PM

RE: Boo Biscuit?
 
i also have a wb and im goin to give it one more try to fix it and if not im getting a muzzy rest i just like the idea of having like a type of metal or whatever it is other than rope

hardcorehunter 04-02-2007 05:24 PM

RE: Boo Biscuit?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Fair question, Gus.

No. It doesn't scare me. I've shot thousands of arrows through mine with NO issues.There's a Possibility that the moving parts (my bow limbs loading) might break, too....but I don't dwell on things that have never happened to me 9or my equipment).

That's an honest answer.
Hell has frozen over. Let it be known that I COMPLETELY agree with GMATT.

buckeye 04-02-2007 05:28 PM

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For all of you drop away rest guys. Does the additional moving parts not concern you? There are a lot of thins that could go wrong...........
I have broke6 drop aways that I can count off the top of my head.... I still use them.... I however will be using something different for 3D this year. I may also try something else out this fall.

hardcorehunter 04-02-2007 05:30 PM

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Why do you suppose their are so many drop away rests trying to come up with arrow containment ideas?...........like this one for example.


Containment type dropaways are coming out for the spot and stalker and for people that don't know how to draw a bow without their arrow falling off of a rest. To fill a marketing niche too; it is not a necessary feature though for the stand or blind hunter.

MDBUCKHUNTER 04-02-2007 06:29 PM

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Wow, I just read every post prior to this and let me tell you....you guys scare me. Really. j/k

I will try the WB another time. AKA, give it a second chance.

Do all the moving parts on the drop away scare me? Kind of, but only because I haven't taken one apart yet. When I purchase a piece of equipment, I usually do2 things with it.

1. Give it to my cat to play with for the day. (exception, broadheads) If my cat can drop it off the kitchen counter, submerse it in water and throw it around and the rest is still intact....good.

2. I take the rest apart after that. I mean TAKE IT APART. I want to see every spring, every piece of steal, screw and bolt. Then I put it back together and if it works...good. If not, then it wasn't meant to be.

Why do I do this? I am a tree stand deer hunter who occasionally likes to go on a trip. If my rest fails me, I can do my best to fix it. Otherwise I have my old 2 prong rest in the case. :D

WB's are not for everyone...Drop aways are not for everyone...Atlasman has a short fuse.

Those are the facts!

atlasman 04-02-2007 09:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

Containment type dropaways are coming out for the spot and stalker and for people that don't know how to draw a bow without their arrow falling off of a rest. To fill a marketing niche too; it is not a necessary feature though for the stand or blind hunter.
Since the vast majority of bowhunting is done from a treestand or blind I doubt these are flooding the market trying to reach the spot and stalkers. Since the WB is the most popular hunting rest in the world and finds it's way onto about 1/2 the bows sold for hunting todayand arrow containent is a major benefit of this rest I would say it'sless of a marketing niche and more of a survival thing.

The WB hasmade prong rests all but extinct in the hunting world and drop aways are trying not to suffer thesame fate (or just hoping WB buys them out before they go under,like Trophy Taker).

atlasman 04-02-2007 09:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

I have broke6 drop aways that I can count off the top of my head.... I still use them.... I however will be using something different for 3D this year. I may also try something else out this fall.
I am in the mood to try a bunch of new stuff this year as well.......I am gonna grab abunch of stuff and outifit a new bow withthem and mess around all year trying out different gearof all kinds (rests included). Should be fun in the yard and at the 3D course.

My hunting rig will not change as of right now though...........but if anygear knocks my socks off on the otherbow I will switch over.

Sort of like a test kit I guess.

paka 04-03-2007 12:37 AM

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I gotta give some credit to my W.B. ;)It takes a licking in the field (climbing cliffs , mounts.)and has never bein damaged . I use 2 inch blazers , wraps , Platnium glue , and a dot of super glue on each tip . This combo is missle proof:).
Anyways I'm Paka and I approve this message:D

hardcorehunter 04-03-2007 06:23 AM

RE: Boo Biscuit?
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

Containment type dropaways are coming out for the spot and stalker and for people that don't know how to draw a bow without their arrow falling off of a rest. To fill a marketing niche too; it is not a necessary feature though for the stand or blind hunter.
Since the vast majority of bowhunting is done from a treestand or blind I doubt these are flooding the market trying to reach the spot and stalkers. Since the WB is the most popular hunting rest in the world and finds it's way onto about 1/2 the bows sold for hunting todayand arrow containent is a major benefit of this rest I would say it'sless of a marketing niche and more of a survival thing.

The WB hasmade prong rests all but extinct in the hunting world and drop aways are trying not to suffer thesame fate (or just hoping WB buys them out before they go under,like Trophy Taker).
Now come on Atlas, you are usually a man that bases statements on some sort of facts. Escalade Sports owns Bear Archery, Jennings Archery, and Carolina Archery(The maker of Whisker Biscuit). Trophy Taker does not show up on Escalade Sports' website as a product or a company that they now own. Trophy Takers website does not show this either.If Escalade Sports did indeed buy Trophy Taker company,Escalade Sportsbought it and not Carolina Archery. Escalade Sports has been in business for over 70 years and is not successful based on it's one purchase of Carolina Archery.
Now to answer your statement about more WB's then dropaways, that is a simple answer....MONEY and the cost of a dropaway. A WB is a 1/4 of the cost of a quality drop away; some people can't afford a drop away. I also would like to know why fletching contact is an attribute in an arrow rest? BTW, I have had the same original Trophy Taker for 4 years now.I had it on my Hoyt Xtec, took it off and put it on myHoyt Trykon, and now this same Trophy Taker is on my Hoyt Vectrix. This same 4 year old rest has performed flawlesslywithout one problem or failure, so dependability is not an issue. I have set them up once at my proshop on each of these bows and have never had one problem or have they ever had to be readjusted. The Trophy Taker performs flawlessly and the fletches do no touch the bow rest when leaving my bow. I do not have to make sure I use a specific vane, nor do I have to worry about cock feather placement.

buckeye 04-03-2007 08:30 AM

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Hardcore

Escalade sports did purchase Trophy Taker.

Germ 04-03-2007 08:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

Hardcore

Escalade sports did purchase Trophy Taker.
Buckeye you are banned from posting about WB[8D] Wait I forgot I have no power:D

hardcorehunter 04-03-2007 11:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

Hardcore

Escalade sports did purchase Trophy Taker.
Wrong, still owned by Dan Evans. I called Trophy Taker not two minutes ago.

atlasman 04-03-2007 06:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

Now come on Atlas, you are usually a man that bases statements on some sort of facts. Escalade Sports owns Bear Archery, Jennings Archery, and Carolina Archery(The maker of Whisker Biscuit). Trophy Taker does not show up on Escalade Sports' website as a product or a company that they now own. Trophy Takers website does not show this either.If Escalade Sports did indeed buy Trophy Taker company,Escalade Sportsbought it and not Carolina Archery. Escalade Sports has been in business for over 70 years and is not successful based on it's one purchase of Carolina Archery.
Don't get your shorts in a bunch Don..........I was just bustin' your chops a little ;) I couldn't care less who owns what.



Now to answer your statement about more WB's then dropaways, that is a simple answer....MONEY and the cost of a dropaway. A WB is a 1/4 of the cost of a quality drop away
A quality drop away costs $200+???..........A quick check of Cabela's has the Trophy Taker Shakey Hunter (micro adjust) at $30 more then my WB..........which is what I would say is about average.



some people can't afford a drop away.
I doubt $30 will make a difference for most guys.........and many drop away's can be had for pretty much the same price as a WB.



I also would like to know why fletching contact is an attribute in an arrow rest?
I don't view it as an attribute...........or a hindrance with the WB. It doesn't effect the flight of my arrows at all. If it did do you really think I would use it for years? I am a STICKLER for laser straight arrow flight (it's what I tune for) and I have no problems getting there with the WB.



BTW, I have had the same original Trophy Taker for 4 years now.I had it on my Hoyt Xtec, took it off and put it on myHoyt Trykon, and now this same Trophy Taker is on my Hoyt Vectrix. This same 4 year old rest has performed flawlesslywithout one problem or failure, so dependability is not an issue. I have set them up once at my proshop on each of these bows and have never had one problem or have they ever had to be readjusted.
Substitute a WB in there and it describes my last 4 years as well......except I haven't changed bows. Sounds like we both have pretty good rests. ;)



The Trophy Taker performs flawlessly and the fletches do no touch the bow rest when leaving my bow. I do not have to make sure I use a specific vane, nor do I have to worry about cock feather placement.
The WB performs flawlessly and I don't worry about the fletches because it has no effect on my shooting. I don't have to shoot a specific vane.......I shot Duravanes for years and switched to Blazers (2") because they are the best. I do shoot vane up (oh the horror [:o])

hardcorehunter 04-03-2007 06:38 PM

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I was wrong in my cost comparison; I had no idea that WB's were so expensive. Sorry. Enjoy your WB fellas.

hardcorehunter 04-03-2007 06:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: atlasman

Don't get your shorts in a bunch Don

This is too much information but I don't wear shorts; I prefer to have my boys free.;)

atlasman 04-03-2007 06:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

This is too much information but I don't wear shorts; I prefer to have my boys free.;)
Maybe that's why you like "drop aways"







wis_bow_huntr 04-04-2007 05:22 AM

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Thats what ya get for plastic vanes. I shoot feathers through mine and each of my arrows have close to abotu 1500 shots through the wb and still look great and shoot straight with no damage to wb either. Plastic vanes arent as good as one thinks, I shot plastics through my wb nad had to replace them, I put feathers on and havent had a problem since.

Paul L Mohr 04-04-2007 01:47 PM

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[/quote]
This is too much information but I don't wear shorts; I prefer to have my boys free.;)
[/quote]

Your right, that was WAY too much information;)


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