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buckeye 03-11-2007 06:34 AM

RE: Pope & Young scoring question
 
I think it may be an ego thing in some cases, but in most casesnot. I also believe itto beas Greg said...... Togive an accurate representing of the racks caliber.

I will give you two more examples.....

This deer Gross scores 162 1/8 P&Y Typical. Nets 135 Typicaland change. This definitely isn't what one pictures when they hear of a 135 inch deer.



Does this next deer look like an 85 inch buck? It grosses mid-high 140's.


buckeye 03-11-2007 06:52 AM

RE: Pope & Young scoring question
 
Ok, here is one more..... He would net around 45 inches. Not what I think of when someone talks about a 45 inch deer [8D]


bloodcrick 03-11-2007 08:13 AM

RE: Pope & Young scoring question
 
I feel the same as most. the Gross reflects the true size of the buck and not the difference from side to side. after all i have never seen a buck that had a perfect side to side score. Gross for me.

early in 03-11-2007 09:06 AM

RE: Pope & Young scoring question
 
buckeye that second buck is way cool, I think he'd score more than 85" as a non-typical though.I totally agree with your point.;)
bloodcreek, the 8pt I killed last season only had a 1" side to side diff. Talk about symmetry.:D

don128 03-11-2007 02:58 PM

RE: Pope & Young scoring question
 
I dont have any of my deerput in the record clubs, but I like gross score. If I know gross score, in general its what your eyes are seeing.

drhntr178 03-11-2007 06:02 PM

RE: Pope & Young scoring question
 

ORIGINAL: GregH

The net score is the result of doubling the smallest measurements of the rack and then subtracting the lengths of all the abnormal points, which were never added into the score in the first place! Why would you want to do that? It's their book so you have to go by their rules to enter an animal. However, most people who are up on scoring, will agree that the gross score most accurately depicts the true size of the animal. It's nothing more than a descriptive tool, nothing to do with ego.


GregH, I agree with you that the gross score does give a better visualization of a bucks true size. Ego still has involvement for some people though.



stealth1 03-11-2007 07:37 PM

RE: Pope & Young scoring question
 
That's why I like the Buckmasters scoring system, no deductions, no measurement for air, full credit of what the deer grows.

peakrut 03-11-2007 10:21 PM

RE: Pope & Young scoring question
 
That guy is doing good I keep in touch via email.
He just got last years mount back and I am awaiting a pic.

ORIGINAL: GregH

I miss that guy, I wish he'd post some more!;)

peakrut 03-11-2007 10:25 PM

RE: Pope & Young scoring question
 
You have made some very good points and I agree. But from a P&Y perspective and being scored you should be stating net unless you dont have it entered?

shed33 03-11-2007 10:56 PM

RE: Pope & Young scoring question
 
I read years ago...that theoriginal scoring concept wasoriginally drawn upfor HORNS not ANTLERS.... Symetrical horns... Then the concept was applied to antlers... antlers being far from symetrical compared to horns. Anyone elseheard of or haveany info on that?

Greg, Scott, nice work. Straight gross has really nothing to do with ego..imo. Anyone that understands score can see if a rack is gonna gross well and or net well or be hurt badlywhen theynet it out. Most also agree that a lot of bone is a lot of bone..no matter how it is configured! I know I would rather shoot a buck with 140 inches of bone on his head that nets 124 PY ...versus a 127 gross that nets 125 2/8and makes PY book... I'll take the bone..heck with the book. :D

I had a buck of mine scored by bushwhackers system and they scored everything straight grossbut they did notinclude an insidespread credit...has it changed since 02?


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