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RE: a/c/c's......
I'd be adding about 22gr in arrow weight.....which I could counter by going to a 100gr broadhead (vs. 125gr I use, now). The #1 reason I use A/C/C's is that I had an all carbon blow up at release once. Once is all it takes, no matter where the fault lies. |
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Great advice guys. Thanks. I appreciate your help.
Anybody wanna buy some a/c/c's?;) |
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3-71's ?
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3-49's
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Too bad I'm shooting 3-60/340's...[:@]
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ORIGINAL: Rick James ORIGINAL: MO_Bowhnter The a/c/c's are very good arrows with excellent spine and straightness tolerances. Are they better than X-weaves? Yes. Will you notice the difference? Probably not. A/C/C's are a great all around arrow, however a goltip pro hunter is lighter, cheaper, more durable, straighter, and I honestly think the pin nock system is a higher quality component system than the easton system. If lighter isn't a priority for you, then just add more tip weight to get it where you want it and in turn you increase your FOC to come up with more forgiveness with fixed blade heads, windy conditions, etc. I also like the Carbon Express Maxima's as well however they are quite a bit more expensive than pro hunters and don't seem to have any more advantages and I still like pin nocks better than the bulldog collars. I have spine tested Maxima's, Pro Hunter's, and A/C/C's at the shop on our spine tester and all produced excellent results.......all hadtolerances close enough to produce fantastic groups at distances well outside of any hunting condition. First off,straightness is getting blown out of proportion in the arrow debate.The most accurate arrows in the world are .002 straightness.For broadhead flight,insert alignment and spine tolerances are way more important.Plus,I doubt that the arrows that are claiming .001 straightness will be that straight after shot a couple hundred times.(assumption on my part,have not tested them) Rick,have you been able to test the .001 straight arrows after a couple hundred shots,I would be interested in seeing if they maintain that,even the carbon ones.Along with the spine after a couple hundred shots. I know the ACC's I shoot have been shot alot for about 3 years now and shoot the same now as they did whenI got them.I NEVER had an all carbon shaft do that. Ahair on your head is about .003 so .001 or .002 on an arrow isn't really even debateable.If you get into the .004 range,then it might become an issue. I agree that the pin nock system is a more accurate system and the back end of an arrow is THE MOST IMPORTANT part of an arrow,this will tell the arrow what direction to go,however,the pin nock isn't even close to being as durable and forgiving to a back end hit.So for me and a hunting arrow that I slam into 3-d targets and bails(and get hit by "buddies").I prefer the uni system,for a long range target arrow,the pin nock would be my choice,but I would have alot of extras.Also,Easton uses pin nocks also,just not on the ACC's.(I know you are aware of this,just put it out there for those that don't) What I like most about the ACC's is the wider range of spine.You can match them perfectly to about any setup. Plus,I like the fact that the Easton's are made in the USA. It is interesting to see all the varying opinions on different equipment. |
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TFOX, What are the differences between a pin nock and a uni. I'm stupid. I am guessing the pin nock is a push in (???). How is it more accurate than a uni. Is there play in the uni or more alignment variance?
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RE: a/c/c's......
GMMAT, if you're using 3-60's, your Lumenok's will work perfectly fine. You just need to remove the uni bushing and hone out the insideof the arrow to remove excess glue. Then they fit, but the 3-60's are the only one's they work with.
Having said that, I still say the Maxima 3D Selects are better.... |
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I think ACC's represent an "era". They were the best and still are considered great; but there is definately better, from almost every vendor.
I loved the hyperspeeds. Hard to fin SOB's are still fun to shoot. Worst experiment ever was with ACC's. I tried to shoot 3-28's out of a 63# setup. It was like shooting a shotgun pattern. It was a tad outside of the chart recommendation (haha). But my calculations showed it should work. Good thing I don't build bridges:) |
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