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Shed Hunting -- Cheaters?
So, am I the only guy who feels that the guys out there this month scouring the fields, lines and edges with quads and sleds are... well... Cheating? The Road Hunters of shed season?
Seriously, if you want the glory, IMO, you've gotta cowboy-up, and step away from the vehicle and use the shoeleather express. If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch. Ya know? There are just some things in life that you should do the old-fashioned way. This is one of 'em. .jpg) |
RE: Shed Hunting -- Cheaters?
As i do not have a sled it is cheating.:D My dad and i are serisously considering buying a sled maybe this spring when they are cheap cheap so then it will be perfectly fine.[8D] Personally i do not have much of an issue people using a sled for shed hunting but i have more of an issue of where they are shed hunting and the land they go on. Many feel because they are on a sled they are allowed to go anywhere they please. Therefore they drive over alfalfa, and clover ruining the crops. Come the spring time you can look across a hay field and tell exactly where a sled went because the alfafla is froze out in one solid line the width of the track the whole length of the field. They do not ask permission they just go. They do not own the land, they do not pay the taxes, they do not farm it. Would be nice to drive on their lawns with my quad after a nice inch of rain and let my mudlites rip it up for them. It is no different, people here have no respect for others property. If they stayed on their own land and public trails i would be fine however i have difficulty with the concept when someone i have absolutley nothing to do with is driving around on my land picking up sheds. The sledders for the majority are total retards here, there have been times this winter they have been ripping around on our home quarter just 100 yards from the house. Who does that? all i can do is sit and watch as i do not have a sled and the snow is a lil deep for the bike.What do you do. You put signs out they drive right past them.I blocked off the entrance to one field by falling 3 large poplar across the approach and they hooked onto them and skidded them out of the way. Youput harrows out there for them to hit then they can turn around and sue you. You cannot win with these people.Sorry i just get a little worked up over this issue.
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I rarely shed hunt anymore.....too lazy I guess[8D]. But when I did or do, its by foot.
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I do my shed hunting barefoot while wearing an eye patch. :eek:
All you shoe/boot wearers are cheaters ;) |
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I never really viewed shed hunting as a competition, so it's hard to see someone as cheating. I do see your point though. If you're puttin' in the miles you don't want to see someone else beat you to a shed by rolling up on a quad.
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I usually usemy quad to patrol the fence lines, field edges, and around the quad trails through the woods. Do I see it as cheating? No. I'm on my own property and I am trying to be as efficent as possible. Yeah, I could walk all of this but that would take most of the day and leave me no time to go check the thickets.
One thing I find amazing in archery today is how many people are so dead set on calling out others for using a tool to help them become more efficent. You see it with everything, food plots, atv's, bows, camo, scent ellimination, blinds, treestands, game cameras,clothes, ect.. It seems that alot of people feel that every archery should be wearing a loin cloth shooting a bow they made out of a treelimb and arrows tipped with sharpened rocks. The reason we are the top predator is simply because we are smart enough to come up with these tools to make us more efficent but seems that in todays society that when you use those tools you get ridiculed for it. |
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wow lol never heard of cheating while looking for sheds.its a little childish i think.
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I guess using an atv is not fair chase:eek:. Come on...cheating? It's shed hunting for crying out loud.
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As long as they are not tearing up properties...so be it.
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Man, I must be old school. Maybe I just like to hoof it more than most.
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All I know is that if you are going to be doing all this shed hunting on foot....I am going to need an ATV just to keep up with you in turkey season.:D
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Who gives a ratts arse if you use a atv to shed hunt as long as you have permission to be on the property. I do everything by foot because i do not have a quad but if i had one i would use it!!
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ORIGINAL: buckmaster_27 wow lol never heard of cheating while looking for sheds.its a little childish i think. 100% agree....and isn't that a quad or sled thatthe author has his sheds tied to? I wonder if the author "cheats" while getting to his favorite hunting spot by driving his truck, when he should either be walking or by horseback...What a joke!!! |
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ummm....who cares? I am a hoofer, although if I had an atv I sure the heck would use it
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I hshed hunt on foot mostly but using an ATV to cover large fields and what not can be effective sometime.
You should do whatever you can to find as many as you can, since 4 wheelers arent illeagl inshed hunting...why not. You could say your cheating yourself by not using it to your advantage |
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We walk. I guess we are old schooled too. I could careless if someone uses a Quad or Sled on there own land or land they have permission. We will always find more sheds if not most of them if we are competing against someone that runs a Quad or Sled. You just can't beat walking.
I hate the lazy SOBs that run on land they don't have permission and push the deer out when they are shedding. Which generally is the case here if someone is running a Quad or Sled. Posted signs mean nothing for some reason to them. I've always respected a landowner's place and treat it like mine.Killing off his alfalfa from sledding acrossed it or rutting up their fields in the springs with Quads just shows no respect. Tim |
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I personaly like the exercise, just ask my heal spur[8D]but use an atv to get to the areasometimes.
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I like to do it on foot;leaves me more money to give to theNRA and to buy more Assault rifles.[8D]
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find them any way you want it don't matter
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Its not cheating to me, and we only walk only becaus ewe are filming all of it. Believe me if I could ride I would but you wouldn't get a sled or atv where we shed hunt.. Walt
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getting out early after the atlers drop is the best time. nothing has started chewing on them. and they still have their color. its rare to find one near a road right after the season ends. Its like saying that the guys that go into the brush and find the best place to hunt it cheating. compared to the guys that drive down roads looking for a deer to shoot. Its not real if you don't get out and look
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I enjoy covering my hunting properties on foot, you will learn more, and it's great exercise. They're is nothing like knowing you earned every shed!
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It's only cheating if you get caught.:DNo but seriously, I feed the deer throughout the winter and I have found lot's of shed's around my feeder's is this cheating?
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ORIGINAL: gri22ly It's only cheating if you get caught.:DNo but seriously, I feed the deer throughout the winter and I have found lot's of shed's around my feeder's is this cheating? |
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Haha, this is seriously pointless. Theres no rule or regulations in shed hunting. However you find the most is the best way to do it...so long as your not traspassing, etc.
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I must agree - pointless...
Get a life! |
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Unless the sheds are in a high-fence area.....I'd say it's still "fair looking".
I do agree that if the sheds are found in a suburban area that they should have points deducted - due to the over-simplification of the process (hell....they 'practically' check their sheds at the park entrances and the caddy shacks :eek:). All in all.....as long as you're not finding more sheds than me, though.....your search methods won't be scrutinized, much. |
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I dont worry about it here Fran, sleds and atvs have a hard time with 45% grades, thick brush, blowdowned and windfalls in the thick timber... Sure the fields in the valleysget hit by the sledders and atv'ers and they always will. Most of the bones I find arein rugged areas that are simply impassible by any vehicles and are hard to get to southerns.
I wear out a pair of boots at least every other season andsome seasons, year to year. Tried most brands..doesnt seem to matter on the make of boots. When I went up to Saskatchewan a couple years ago to shed hunt for a week; all the fields had been covered by sleds (snowmobiles) every shed I found was in the timber except for 3 I found in a standing flax field where the sledders didnt run it over. I know I missed out on all the easy shed pick-ups. Do I blame guys for using sleds in flat ground in the winter, Not really, you can cover a lot of ground fast on picking up the easy ones that lay out in the open. Binocs go a long ways in open country too..whether its flat or steep as long as its open. |
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ORIGINAL: buckmaster_27 wow lol never heard of cheating while looking for sheds.its a little childish i think. |
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whatever works best works why not take advantage of it
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So, it sounds like the vast majority here will take advantage of the most effective legal means of shedhunting available. Fair enough.
I guess the logical extension of this would be to say that the majority would also hunt deer from the truck if it was legal too, just because it's easy to cover more ground or see more deer that way. Weird way of thinking... but... to each his own I guess. I just couldn't pride myself in something that I ran over with the quad - again - that's a personal thing, and no indictment of anyone else's way of doing things. I'd just rather go out there and hoof it the hard way. Must bemy"oldschool" colors shining through. Evidently, I'm a little bit of a dinosaur. |
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ORIGINAL: quiksilver So, it sounds like the vast majority here will take advantage of the most effective legal means of shedhunting available. Fair enough. I guess the logical extension of this would be to say that the majority would also hunt deer from the truck if it was legal too, just because it's easy to cover more ground or see more deer that way. Weird way of thinking... but... to each his own I guess. I just couldn't pride myself in something that I ran over with the quad - again - that's a personal thing, and no indictment of anyone else's way of doing things. I'd just rather go out there and hoof it the hard way. Must bemy"oldschool" colors shining through. Evidently, I'm a little bit of a dinosaur. There's a big difference between outsmarting a deer than outsmarting a shed. |
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Quick:
You sorta went from (in my opinion) panning for gold to killing miners in one fell swoop.....lol. That's a bit of a stretch you had there. MANY think hunting wih a compound bow is taking advantage of too much technology. Some think going as far as the draw-Lok ISN'T. It's whatever each individual is accepting of.....and it's very personal. What if it were arrowheads we were after? Or, better.....civil war memorabilia.....with a metal detector. I don't give it a second thought.....how they found it. I've never thought of it. I just wish I could find ONE!!!;) |
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I just don't see how so many "hunters" can so strongly support ATV/sled use in one aspect of hunting, but yet denounce it as it relates to another aspect of hunting.
It's okay to use it for X, but not okay for Y. (Okay to look for sheds from the quad in shed season, but not okay to look for deer from the quad in deer season.) I'm just not seeing the difference, but like I've said before - I'm old school, so a lot of this stuff just doesn't register to me. ...and I come from an area where ATV's are overused and mis-used to a point where they have become publicenemy number one. |
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OMG...I can't even believe you would compare the two that way. That is just ridiculous. Hunting for sheds is a totally different ball game to hunting a live animal.
Dang those Indians anyway, I bet they found sheds on there horses. They are a bunch of cheaters...oh but wait, they killed buffalo off of their horses. They weren't hunters, they were cheaters. Give me a break quick...that comparison is way off base. |
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ORIGINAL: IL_BOW_MAN OMG...I can't even believe you would compare the two that way. That is just ridiculous. Hunting for sheds is a totally different ball game to hunting a live animal. Dang those Indians anyway, I bet they found sheds on there horses. They are a bunch of cheaters...oh but wait, they killed buffalo off of their horses. They weren't hunters, they were cheaters. Give me a break quick...that comparison is way off base. For the guy/gal that doesn't abuse the use of his/her quad or sled... good for them. I am glad theyenjoy their stuff and can respect that. I rarely see that here though!! I understand whatquicksilver is saying. If I had started the thread, I wouldn't had just stopped at cheaters. I am sure the words...lazy slobs and scum would have been tossedin too when thinking of " my area ". :D Technology is only as good as the user using it or abusing it. Give mea good pair of boots. I'll take pride in wearing them out. Oh and I don't have to worry about getting a flat tire should Irunover a shed.  I've heard of a few guys doing it with their quads. One guy with his truck and he took out both front and back tire. Too funny!!!Tim |
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I suppose I've seen more pointless threads on this forum but this one is right up there with the silliest.
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Good points Tim - I agree 100%.
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OK, so.... wow. this is about pointless. but here we go
I use a 4-wheeler to look for sheds along fences and in fields (that are not planted and it doesn't tear anything up) but I am a cheater because I use an ATV? I look for sheds because I want to see what kind of deer are left for me to hunt next season. you are telling me that there are shed hunting ethics? HA That is funny...Mr. Oldschool huh? I walk to find sheds too, I walk ALOT, up and down hills, through creeks, across fields, over the plains, and all over, but you have the nerve to call me a cheater because I use a 4-wheeler to look for a Deer Antler?! Shed hunting is not actually hunting, it is antler FINDING, SEARCHING, EXPLORING. I am not driving deer off of my property and I am not tearing up anyones property, I will use a 4-wheeler because it helps me acheive my goal of simply finding out what kind of deer are still in the area. I am not out with a truck shooting sheds, I am not poaching for sheds, because there is no such thing, that is a horrible example, it is nothing alike and you know it. I can't wait for the day that a law comes out that says "No Shed hunting From Any Vehicleof ANY KIND" That would really show the ignorance of our DNR. You walk all youwant, but you don't call me a "cheater" because I can ride a 4-wheeler and see a shed and pick it up. I can call you a cheater for using glasses, for using boots to get more traction on hills, for wearing a coat to stay out longer and not get cold, for using a backpack to put antlers in, for taking the antler from its natural state of rest. FACE IT, You cannot leave the woods the same as it was when you came in, because you are taking things out of it. this thread has absolutely no real and strong point. I am a Lazy Slob Scumbag? .... thats nice to call a fellow hunter just doing what he can to find an antler. You took this simple aspect of finding a shed antler, and you turned it into a limited rules and traditional hunting game. I will Follow all rules of Deer hunting, but finding an antler? be realistic, its not cheating. |
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ORIGINAL: -DeerSlayer- OK, so.... wow. this is about pointless. but here we go I use a 4-wheeler to look for sheds along fences and in fields (that are not planted and it doesn't tear anything up) but I am a cheater because I use an ATV? I look for sheds because I want to see what kind of deer are left for me to hunt next season. you are telling me that there are shed hunting ethics? HA That is funny...Mr. Oldschool huh? I walk to find sheds too, I walk ALOT, up and down hills, through creeks, across fields, over the plains, and all over, but you have the nerve to call me a cheater because I use a 4-wheeler to look for a Deer Antler?! Shed hunting is not actually hunting, it is antler FINDING, SEARCHING, EXPLORING. I am not driving deer off of my property and I am not tearing up anyones property, I will use a 4-wheeler because it helps me acheive my goal of simply finding out what kind of deer are still in the area. I am not out with a truck shooting sheds, I am not poaching for sheds, because there is no such thing, that is a horrible example, it is nothing alike and you know it. I can't wait for the day that a law comes out that says "No Shed hunting From Any Vehicleof ANY KIND" That would really show the ignorance of our DNR. You walk all youwant, but you don't call me a "cheater" because I can ride a 4-wheeler and see a shed and pick it up. I can call you a cheater for using glasses, for using boots to get more traction on hills, for wearing a coat to stay out longer and not get cold, for using a backpack to put antlers in, for taking the antler from its natural state of rest. FACE IT, You cannot leave the woods the same as it was when you came in, because you are taking things out of it. this thread has absolutely no real and strong point. I am a Lazy Slob Scumbag? .... thats nice to call a fellow hunter just doing what he can to find an antler. You took this simple aspect of finding a shed antler, and you turned it into a limited rules and traditional hunting game. I will Follow all rules of Deer hunting, but finding an antler? be realistic, its not cheating. Are you from my area?? :eek::D If not... try rereading my post. You seem to miss what I was saying. I don't care if you use a quad or a sled as long as you have permission to be on the ground or you own it. I never said that was cheating or you are a lazy slob. It's the guys that abuse themwho are the lazyslobs, whichwas my only gripe. Tim |
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