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Since I post here all the time, I am just letting folks know I am leaving. Nothing to do with HNI as a site.

The past month people were hurt, over nothing. It makes no sense to get all-uptight over hunting forum. I am just as guilty for the way I treated Atlas. I was mean and petty on purpose, evenwhen I agreed with him, I would take the other side to argue.
Atlas I own you an apology for my behavior, you did not deserve to be treated that way. I am sorry for trying to make you look bad and attacking your character,I was wrong. I posted “my line” in your thread.

I have a lot of respect for Rob and GMMAT. Are they perfect, no, havethey made mistakes, yes. I think we all have, but we seem to be so wrapped up in ourselves we have lost focus on what matters. The fact we get to go hunt every year and enjoy the outdoors. We have families & friendsthat love us, what more do we need?

For everyone else I was pretty nice, LOL I am going to just hunt and have fun. I have met wonderful people and hope to stay in touch. PM me an email ifyou want.

The KY is still on, and I will be at theHNI get together to say hi.

Maybe down the road I will be back.

Good hunting to you all!

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Well Said!!!! It was nice getting to know you. Happy Hunting Germ!

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You are a good guy Germ. I look forward to your return and meeting you this June. Don't stay gone to long....

Take care man. Scott

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Germ, you've got my numbers. Give me a call sometime.

If nothing else, I'll see you in June.

You'll be missed, bud. Keep in touch.

Dan

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Germ.. say it ain't so.. say it ain't so.

I know that you will be missed. I know you will be back. You better be back! I expect another 150"+ whitetail from you next year and want to see it.

Don't be gone too long. Team ramrod.. remember! LOL.

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I will ty and catch you on the 4rth but I really don't think I will be in town.


Allstar basketball will have me on the road,most likely.I may get back in town and head down there if you are still around.


How long you plan on staying?

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See how many people like you since your leaving. :Dlol

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:D:D:D:D[8D]

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Don't take this wrong, I'm trying to talk you into staying.....But you're leaving is going to prove WHAT exactly?????

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I don't know you that well Germ but I thought you were a decent guy. Sorry to see you go but I know what your talking about. I think you have my e-mail address so keep me posted about the KY trip. You seem like a stand up guy and it would be nice to meet you. Later

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im at a loss of words. cant believe it....were loosing too many people.

good luck Ghemry. it was a pleasure getting to know ya and be part of the team. i'll try to work on getting cliffnotes versions of my daily life to email you next fall;) take care
devin

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Will see you in Kentucky in September if not sooner!

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Sorry to see you leaving, but I understand the need to get away from this place. Hope to see you back someday, good luck and many happy years of life and hunting.

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Take it easy Germ. Good hunting to you!

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Gary,

You know how I feel, it's a total shame that the childish behavior of a few ruin the experience for many. Your a valued member of HNI, level headed, a voice of reason and comical. I understand but at the same time am very saddened by your decision. It was my pleasure being a teammate and I hope your here next season. We might not be part of the same team but we'll tear it up like we did this year. We didn't win but we definately had the most fun talking about winning. [8D]

In life we will always come across lowlifes that wish us harm, stress or anger. We need to realize there is good in everyone even when we can't see it immediately. Gary, we have lovely wives, you have beautiful children, we have great homes and jobs we enjoy. You and I will always be friends and I look forward to shaking your hand one day. We have each others numbers and will talk again soon. I hope you reconsider and just click the ignore button on the children.

Good luck my friend.

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We are losing some pretty solid people as of late and I don't know what is going on but I don't like it.

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Why can't we all just get along?

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Bro just go take a break come back and start fresh. You have value here.

Your friend,
Tony

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Germ,

A smart man learns from his mistakes. A big man admits them, takes corrective actions, and moves forward. I think you're both big and smart. However, your choice to tuck tail and run...well, not so sure about that. Hunt and have fun...you're right, that is exactly what it is all about! Sharing the adventures with your friends (and it appears you have plenty at HTN)-that's part of the fun. If you step away to clear your head, analyze your existence, ponder your goals...,then I hope you do so quickly. You will be missed and it would be nice to have youback-pronto! You contribute way too much!

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I'm not leaving. Most excitment this place has seen in a while. Can't wait to see what happens next. It's a mystery novel, a season of "24" and 2 movies, "Grumpy old men" and "The Burbs" all roled up into one.:D

Stick around. I know you want too. To see this whole thing played out, I believe will be very valuable in life later.

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Hate to see you go[:o] but you better come back;)

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Germ, if a website has started to affect your spirit, to where you are saying and/or doing things you wouldn't normally .... I am with your decision.

I hope it's only for a little while, as the few months I have been here, I have enjoyed your humor,and you knowledge of the hunting area maps.

Germ, think about this though .... if you DON'T come back, I'll track you down and roundhouse kick your dog [8D]

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The Germ... Come on man.. we've had fun. I know your a Michigan fan and quitting is easier than toughing it out..but don't let the crap get in the way of the solid friends and knowledge. Besides Jeff's gonna let you have it for announcing your leaving <kidding>

You leaving will not change anything in the BIG picture.
Take a break, if you feel it's needed, that's all good. But don't say site be damned. Only good blokes will turn this thing around and your one of them.

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Well said GR8

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Rob, I have never had any problems with you myself, but the childish behavior was not only from the members, there has been childish behavior on the mods side of the fence to. As a long time member here, I have first hand witnessed the targets painted on other members backs for personal reasons. If you deny this, you are just simply looking the other way.

I would think as a mod, you would refrain from name callingfor people expressing their opinions. Some of the people you are refering to "lowlifes" and "childish" are good people. It is too bad you don't see that, as you have turned people against the site and against you that would have previously called you a friend.

As I have not attacked anybody or challenged you, I would guess my post shouldn't be deleted, but with the way things have been lately, I imagine it will be gone in no time.

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I think the analogy goes, what is ,is what is. Did I get that right?

While we are on the subject, sorry Germ.

IL, some of what you say I will take respondsibility for. I will step up and say, yes, some of what you say is correct. However, that is no longer tolerated and I for one, will not lower myself once again. I did, I publically apologize to the board and it's members. Some will only take this and ridicule it, I expect that. I made some mistakes, I let a few get the best of me which is out of character. I've been here longer than most, there are a few with lower ID #'s than I but not many. I remember a time when these boards were very simple. I miss those times. If you want to place blame where blame should be cast, look at me. I'll accept a level of blame. I had a good interaction between another member and thought an issue was settled but later learned how incredibly wrong I was to trust said individual. While he was interacting in a respected manner, he was stabbing me in the back at the same time. While I'll take a level of blame, in the end it's what is in the best interest of HNI that is now my priority even if I stepped away from that. For every negative comment, slander, attack that is made I get 3 thank you's. The good outweigh the bads, always will.

For those of you who deserve my apologies, again I say I'm sorry. There are others however I could care less about as they've stated quite clear, it is what it is.


As for a mod, name calling. I didn't call anyone a name. If I said, so and so is a child, that would name calling. If I said you are a child, that would be name calling. Telling Germ to ingore the children only projects that the circumstance exists and if someone is offended by such then said person projects the name onto themselves.

Just like I or anyone else saying there are losers in every aspect of life. There are evil people looking to do nothing more than to cause chaos. In these two sentences I've called no one a name. Any indidual is more than welcome to project themselves into any catagory. Just like I can say there are great people in life as well. There are good people in life. There are fake people in life, and there are adults that act like children. Again, which place in life each person is can only be viewed inside ones own heart.

Anyway, there you have something to run off and pick apart and slander me with. Enjoy.

I know I've been condemned for things that I have no part of but in respect of my fellow mods, I'll take the blame if it takes the blame off them. It doesn't affect me either way. HNI will survive, there are some fantastic members here who get it. I spoke with Todd Graf on the phone yesterday when I called him on behalf of his teammates. I'm really excited about the future of HNI. I hope everyone enjoys their continued stay into the future. Great things are coming out way. Peace.

ps, I didn't move this post for one reason, I'm not about that as I once was. I ruled with an iron fist while on my "vacation" and it was wrong, it was black and white here for a while. I want to apologize for that too. We are a more tolerant bunch as long as forum rules are followed. I will move posts I think are better in another forum with a notfication to the author for the reason. The way it should be done, again another apology given.

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Rob, I would like to think you have known me long enough to know that is not what I am about.

Thanks for the response and I hope that all that are still around can move forward from where we are at right now. Like others have said, every few years there is a blow up. Some leave some stay. Things will return to normal in a bit, but until then, we all have to be aware of the issues at hand and all do our part to make thingsbetter.

Once again, thanks for not wiping my post out and letting me speak my mind. I have no ill feelings towards anybody that is here, nor do I have any ill feeling towards those that have gone.

Have a good weekend!!

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I think the last two post are signs we are in the valley, Things are going to start looking up, unless you desire to grab a shovel. Well said by both!

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Germ, in the immortal words of Beaver Cleaver......."Gee, Wally." I guess I've missed some posts lately. Of course, I understand why Germ would be leaving. Seems like a lot of people around here like to put others down quite a bit. I've got HNI on a permanent browser tab but don't read/post much because it seems like its either an argument and insults or some poster making you wonder if its a prank post. Who really gives a ratzazz what bow someone shoots or what clothes they wear? This site, which is what it is because of the posters/members, is definitely not what it used to be. That's too bad. But all things change so, as Rob more or less stated, "it is what it is". Germ, I hope you check in once in a while. The place is better with you. Good luck.

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Sorry to see you go Germ. I have read many of your posts and enjoyed them. As for all the other "crap" that has been going on, I hope it stops. I agree with Rob, there are lots of great guys on this site. I hope everyone on here realizes what a unique and educational place this has become. The soap opera behavior needs to stop, and the commaradarie needs to start growing back. Just my .02

Shane

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Germ, I hope that your vacation is short lived. You seem to be one of the few that truly understand hunting for mature bucks. I hope to see you around.

Greg

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I'm shocked your leaving take a break and come back in awhile






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Sorry to see ya go, you were one of the guys that made the site what it is(in a good way). Hope you stop by from time to time, and will decide to come back. Until then you'll be missed by many.

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Yeah, this place needs people like you!

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Bye Germ, come back soon.

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Hey Germ,

I don't really know anyone here at all, and this is my first forum membership as well.However, I wouldlike to say a couple of things for your spirit to chew on.

Firstly,this forum is like a small town. Back in the day there were fewer residents, and everyone probably knew one another pretty well. Your character and those of your piers are the foundation of whatever exists here today. As time went on I suspect the town grew to include all sorts of folks who found it to be cozy, quaint, refreshing, entertaining, informative, empowering, etc.... These folks are no different than your "generation." They seek the same things, have the same goals, and basically aspire to change in some way ,or they wouldn't put forth the energy to be here. It's the rule of the bathroom theory, the more people who live in the house, the more extensively they need to cooperate to manage the use fairly.

So, as time goes on in the same small town one may begin to feel as if the walls are closing in, and that forward momentum is lost. Everything looks greener somewhere else, etc.... Long-time residents develop associations, cliques, friendships andworking relationships that are comforting in a world where change is imminent. That's how we get through it man! I left my small town in Illinois almost 13 years ago, and since then I have developed many new friendships and working relationships. But, the older you get, the more you realize that old friends are best. I have pondered a couple of times what it would be like to have to start a new marriage after 10 years. I can't fathom that! The love, pain, joy and heartache of those times has cast the die for me. It hasn't always been the way I or she probably wanted it, but here we are, and I love every single day.

When I left home, I thought there was nothing there for me. Oh how wrong I was. If you run from mistakes, you just keep running. They catch up and you know that. As far as I am concerned you made ammends for whatever it was you figure your infraction was by standing up like a man and posting what you did here. I will be on the religion site here at HuntingNet in the morning, as there is not a Lutheran Church in this town. Come on down and ask for forgiveness/direction or whatever floats your boat. Don't just give up. I havn't even met you yet.:D

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wow this is kinda drepressing

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Does this make me a lowlife?

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Germ-

I have enjoyed reading a number of your postings.Sad to see you go, but you have to follow your heart. Just hope you will return soon.

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Please don't be gone too long Germ, I can't do the Hunting contest thing alone. I'll see you in June as well. Go recharge the batteries and come back!!!