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RE: 103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
Absolute BULL. Many of the best in the world couldn't even do that. |
RE: 103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
ORIGINAL: MC Bowhunter Has anyone seen the old footage of Ben Pearson shooting the Javelina at what they say on the movie is 3 city blocks away? He was up on the cliff and the Javelina is way down in the draw. And he smokes it!! MC To me, that shot is a high riskshot, making it unethicalIMO, but I remember shotgunning for deer as a kid, and before OHIO had a 3 slug limit, I carried a POLICE ISSUED Riot gun with a 20" slugbarrel that held 8 slugs, and I'd fire all8 if I got an opportunity, because that was how the "old-timers" I hunted withhunted. I've given up gunhunting for deer, and solelybowhunt now, but if I did still gunhunt for deer, I'd carry a single shot,as the first shot is usually the one that matters the most anyhow. It's not about the feat of shooting 103yds, itis about respecting the animal and taking an ethical shot infor the conditions. |
RE: 103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
Well it was Ben Pearson so probably not many. And they didn't have the filming equipment like we have now days. Most of those old films are pretty much how it happened.
My father is one of the legends. But he didn't take bad shots. He knew his ability. And made some great shots on animals out to 70 yards. If things weren't right due to conditions or whatever. He didn't shoot. These guys had respect for the animal. They also may have been a lot better then most of us when it comes to archery and hunting. And they did it with a recurve. I do agree with you ethical statement though. But someone had to try it sooner or later to start the learning process on what's a good shot and what isn't. These guys didn't have the resources like we do now days. MC |
RE: 103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
I don't even believe it's really 103yds. Best I can tell is that mulie reacts to the impact of the arrow in just about 1 second....the arrow is released at the 29 second mark and the deer jumps at 30 seconds.
Someone smarter than me needs to figure out what speed that arrow would need to travel to go 100yds in about 1 second. When the camera pans back, it appears to be more like 50yds or so. |
RE: 103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
I agree
MC |
RE: 103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
ORIGINAL: Primitive Weapon Someone smarter than me needs to figure out what speed that arrow would need to travel to go 100yds in about 1 second. However, an arrow that leaves a bow at 300 feet per second will not still be traveling that fast downrange at 300 feet. I would bet that in order for an arrow to cover 300 feet in 1 second it would need to be traveling at 400+ fps because it is going to start slowing down as soon as it leaves the bow. |
RE: 103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
ORIGINAL: MC Bowhunter Well it was Ben Pearson so probably not many. And they didn't have the filming equipment like we have now days. Most of those old films are pretty much how it happened. My father is one of the legends. But he didn't take bad shots. He knew his ability. And made some great shots on animals out to 70 yards. If things weren't right due to conditions or whatever. He didn't shoot. These guys had respect for the animal. They also may have been a lot better then most of us when it comes to archery and hunting. And they did it with a recurve. I do agree with you ethical statement though. But someone had to try it sooner or later to start the learning process on what's a good shot and what isn't. These guys didn't have the resources like we do now days. MC |
RE: 103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
Doug,
I was over at his house the other day and saw a copy of it. Looks like it might be pretty good. Read the article in the latest Peterson's about his bout with cancer during last deer season. It will open your eyes. For someone who has been able to go on many hunting trips through out every deer season. Then all of a sudden not be able to do what you love to do sucks. It was a hard season for him. I'm not looking forward to getting older! MC |
RE: 103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
ORIGINAL: Buster T The truth is we have no idea how far that shot was, but I can say this is certain......there area lot of young hunters out there thinking to themselves "Hey ifI buy that bow I can make them 100yd shots too" and THAT'S the realsad part of this. :( How many pins comes with your favorite site ? How fast is your bow ? How light are your carbons ? FLYS LIKE FIELD POINTS _ how often is that used to market a product ? Compound are designed and markets around SPEED and ACCURACY. Also, you need look no further than most posts on western forums and western big game hunts where people think they have to shoot farther becuase they're "out west" - thats a huge misconception. no, the whole drive of the compound industry is to create bows that shoot faster, flatter, with less practice than they use to. Quiet has become the fad of late too. I completely agree with you, that is exactly what the compound bow designersmanufacturers andretailers want...a flat, fast bow that can ethically kill out to 100yds and beyond.I don't have a problem with that at all as long as the bow is...........in the right hands. This was my point all along. I could care less about the actual distance of that shot hey, the guy put a killing shot on that deer, can't argue with that. If that was Byron Ferguson shooting nobody would have said a thing....why? Because he can make those shots just like you and I make 20 yard shots. I was just trying to let everyone know that all that video was for, was to try to get some un-informed, un-knowning newbie bow hunter to buy that bow thinking it would allow them to shoot and kill deer at 100+ yards. That to me is way more unethical than the guy in the video making the shot. You want to show the world your bow is the fastest thing around, fine promote in a way that most bow hunters can relate. Say it will allow you to use only one pin for normal nunting ranges, say it will help with slight yardage miss judgements in normal (30yds and under) hunting ranges, hell say you can thumb you nose at the BowTech guys and tell them you have the fastet bow in town. Just don't go out and try to make everyone believe this thing will allow you to start shooting deer at 100 yards......Irresponsible is what it is![:@] |
RE: 103yd with Bow & Arrow in the wind??
BigJ12 enjoy it while you can :D
I expect bowhunters to take shots they full well know they can make - THAT is what makes an ethical hunter, isn't it ? If you can make the shot, take it. He did, he made it. Yes - its qutie simply as easy as that. If anyone wants to question it ? Hey, he was out there to kill an animal, and he did it. 2 yards, 103 yards, crosswind, no wind .......... he had a fricking compound that could make the shot, he was fully capable of making it and he did it. Use to, I'd probably have chapped him for it. No longer ........ it was his shot, he took it. Leave it at that. Its not the highest % shot in the world in my book, but he's 1 for 1 to my knowledge,shooting 100% success rate. Hard to argue that, isn't it ? |
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