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why so mutch weight
i was wondring why people use so mutch draw weight,if you can get a pas threw with 40 pounds why do you need to use 70and 80 pound bows?i understand so you can shoot farther but bow hunting is getting close not far? just wondring
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Cause i can :). I mainly elk hunt so i jack it up to 70. Do i really need to pull 70? Nope my buddies son took one this year pullin like 58 i think it was. I was offered a follow up shot this year at 50 yards and took it with another pass thru. I like the ability to be able to do that. I have no prob drawing or holding for a long time, all that stone pickin' has paid off.[8D]
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Not only does it mean more speed and less arrow drop at our hunting distances, it also means more kenetic energy. It's especially helpful in the marginal shots. Things happen, animals move, we make bad shots... all of which can mean the difference between a great shot and a bad shot... or should I say bad hit. More KE will help bust through ribs, shoulder, spines etc. It translates to more quick kills. Of course if you can't handle the extra weight you shouldn't do it. Yes 40 pounds will kill a deer, although in most cases won't give you a clean pass through and certainly won't poke a hole in a shoulder or even the edge of shoulder if you're unlucky enough to hit it. He's right, we shoot it because we can and for all the reasons above.
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I agree with David. Without the 70 lbs I shoot I would be able to use one pin from 0 to 30 yrds.
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ORIGINAL: Hiawatha Cause i can :). I mainly elk hunt so i jack it up to 70. Do i really need to pull 70? Nope my buddies son took one this year pullin like 58 i think it was. I was offered a follow up shot this year at 50 yards and took it with another pass thru. I like the ability to be able to do that. I have no prob drawing or holding for a long time, all that stone pickin' has paid off.[8D]  Just playing. Do you need to pull back huge weight in order to kill your elk/deer/ect, NO, But as David said, it does help marginal shots, increases kinetic energy, lessens drop, ect. Can you kill a deer with a .22? Sure, would it be easier with a .243/.308, yes. Just like a person could take a 40# bow and kill an elk if he puts the arrowin the right place. I personally pull as much asI feel comfortable pulling back and holding in >20 degree weather |
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thanks i was just wondring ,because i shoot 50 and i was thanking about a bigger bow then i thought about that,so i asked
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ORIGINAL: lpv77 I agree with David. Without the 70 lbs I shoot I would be able to use one pin from 0 to 30 yrds. |
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I dropped my draw weight down to 60 lbs this year when I bought my Alegence. I spined my deer at 40 yrds this year and the arrowpenatrated the spine and was sticking out the other side of the deer. Yep, plenty of poundage.
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They say with the new bows you don't need to be the hulk to bowhunt.
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It's all about the KE.
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Big critters demand big energy!
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I'm a poor judge of anything past 20 yards. I like the fact that I can be a little off [if I don't range things first] and still hit where I want.
Plus the KE is a definite plus. |
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I learned this whenI got into archery more. More weight makes you step up to a heavier spined arrow and you are not gaining anything to speak of with the heavier # bows as far as speed goes. You would think that a 70# bow is way faster than a 60# bow, but it isn't. Where the heavy pound, heavy spined arrow stand out is in kineteic energy. Like throwing a pencil at you or a pencil with a small metal rod inside of it. Both travel at the same speed, but the pencil with the rod in it hurts more and does more damage. Important in bigger game like brown bears, large african game, elk, moose, caribou; big bodied and heavy boned animals.
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ORIGINAL: hockeyhead They say with the new bows you don't need to be the hulk to bowhunt.  |
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Thats a big mammal.[:-]
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I like to have energy to spare.
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I dropped my draw weight down to 60 lbs this year when I bought my Alegence. I spined my deer at 40 yrds this year and the arrowpenatrated the spine and was sticking out the other side of the deer. Yep, plenty of poundage. [align=right] [/align] |
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Put BigJ12's mark down in the, Just Because He Can Category!!!
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ORIGINAL: Sliverflicker Put BigJ12's mark down in the, Just Because He Can Category!!! |
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Hey Kool-aid!![8D]:D:D
ORIGINAL: BigJ12 ORIGINAL: hockeyhead They say with the new bows you don't need to be the hulk to bowhunt.
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ORIGINAL: TFOX ORIGINAL: Sliverflicker Put BigJ12's mark down in the, Just Because He Can Category!!! Seriously... the heavy poundage does you no good if you have to strain to pull it back under good conditions. Throw in being cold, sitting for long periodsor buck fever... what should have been a successful hunt could be a disaster at the moment of truth. Know your limits!! Tim |
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Shoot what fits you and forget about what others tell you too.
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You would think that a 70# bow is way faster than a 60# bow, but it isn't. I shoot 64# for indoors and 3D.....but I'll crank it back to 71# for deer hunting....because I know i can shoot 1 pin to 30 yds (or more). I shoot a heavy arrow.....and I want all the help I can get. |
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ORIGINAL: davidmil Not only does it mean more speed and less arrow drop at our hunting distances, it also means more kenetic energy. It's especially helpful in the marginal shots. Things happen, animals move, we make bad shots... all of which can mean the difference between a great shot and a bad shot... or should I say bad hit. More KE will help bust through ribs, shoulder, spines etc. It translates to more quick kills. Of course if you can't handle the extra weight you shouldn't do it. Yes 40 pounds will kill a deer, although in most cases won't give you a clean pass through and certainly won't poke a hole in a shoulder or even the edge of shoulder if you're unlucky enough to hit it. He's right, we shoot it because we can and for all the reasons above. |
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ORIGINAL: BigJ12 ORIGINAL: hockeyhead They say with the new bows you don't need to be the hulk to bowhunt.
 Tru dat! You're a beast, dude! |
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I tell ya, having shot traditional for the past 3 years, I can say that a 60 pound compounds is ALL you will ever need bowhunting. 55 pounds is too. 50 pounds is good. The energy of a compound is unreal compared to a trad recurve or longbow.
I bought a Q2 recently - and I'll have it set 57-60# and shooting weighted carbons I imagine. That said, you can always have extra power and in case you ever need it - its there. Like driving a 4x4 truck ......... 95% of the time you don't need that 4x4 but its sure invaluable when you do need it |
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Because I can drill a deer through both shouldersand still stick it in the ground. Should that deer turn, duck, or I just screw up the shotI know that if I hit a major obsticle like shoulders it isn't a problem at all.
Becasue I don't have to wait for that perfect broadside or quartering away shot. I can take those quartering to shots and have 100% confidence that my broadhead will get through. |
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I got a doe this season with my 28 lb bow. I'm really small. If I had to shoot a heavier bow, I wouldn't be able to hunt. (Michigan has no lower limit on draw weight which makes it easy for kids to hunt.) It limits my range of course, and I would use a heavier bow if I could, but I can't. So if you aren't very big use whatever fits you.
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ORIGINAL: daddyslittlegirl I got a doe this season with my 28 lb bow. I'm really small. If I had to shoot a heavier bow, I wouldn't be able to hunt. (Michigan has no lower limit on draw weight which makes it easy for kids to hunt.) It limits my range of course, and I would use a heavier bow if I could, but I can't. So if you aren't very big use whatever fits you. |
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ORIGINAL: terbzz ORIGINAL: daddyslittlegirl I got a doe this season with my 28 lb bow. I'm really small. If I had to shoot a heavier bow, I wouldn't be able to hunt. (Michigan has no lower limit on draw weight which makes it easy for kids to hunt.) It limits my range of course, and I would use a heavier bow if I could, but I can't. So if you aren't very big use whatever fits you. |
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i'm shooting 55 lbs right now but i'm goin to the YMCA everynight to work out and hopfully get up to 70 this year..you want high poundage for speed, kinectic energy, and noise of ur bow...great thread btw..thanks for bringing it up!
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Same reason I use a 12ga, instead of a 20 ga.
70 lbs is no problem for me to pull even after sitting for hours in the cold, it gives me confidence and alot of KE and penetration. That's why. |
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there is a huge misconception on how much "weight" and "power" and "speed" and "KE"
I shot a 52# longbow, probably 170 fps, 525 gr arrows and had maybe 27/27 pound of KE I shot through one side of ribs and nicked the other ribs on a P&Y 200 pound KS buck. No problems because the shot went where it was suppose to. |
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No problems because the shot went where it was suppose to. there is a huge misconception on how much "weight" and "power" and "speed" and "KE" |
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Charlie P - maybe not you and I but many guys want ultra fast, heavy weight draws, light carbons and mechanical broadheads etc because thats the latest fad
fad's don't kill deer IMO ..... good solid equipment does. Nothing wrong with fast, nothing wrong with mech broadheads etc ..... but the misconception I think is that you HAVE to have those and you don't. Look at a couple of responses on the light bow that killed that guys deer ........ why the shock and amazement ? |
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ORIGINAL: terbzz i was wondring why people use so mutch draw weight,if you can get a pas threw with 40 pounds why do you need to use 70and 80 pound bows?i understand so you can shoot farther but bow hunting is getting close not far? just wondring As for your topic, why not have more draw weight? I believe you should have as much draw weight that you as an individual can control. For some that may be 55lbs, for others it may be 75lbs. Personally, I have as much draw weight I can have without excessive movement. I want to be able to hold my bow up at any angle and be able to draw it back. My draw weight is usually 66-68lbs. |
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Charlie P - maybe not you and I but many guys want ultra fast, heavy weight draws, light carbons and mechanical broadheads etc because thats the latest fad |
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Connie Renfro has killed more animals than most guys on Hunting.net
she used ( I believe ) a 49# recurve for almost all her hunting www.huntingfortomorrow.com/women_files/You%27re%2520hunting%2520with%2520THAT.doc+connie+ renfro+draw+weight&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1& amp;gl=us]http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:meiv8fxW_dQJ:www.huntingfortomorrow .com/women_files/You%27re%2520hunting%2520with%2520THAT.doc+connie+ renfro+draw+weight&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1& amp;gl=us[/url] |
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Connie Renfro has killed more animals than most guys on Hunting.net she used ( I believe ) a 49# recurve for almost all her hunting |
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ORIGINAL: Primitive Weapon ORIGINAL: terbzz i was wondring why people use so mutch draw weight,if you can get a pas threw with 40 pounds why do you need to use 70and 80 pound bows?i understand so you can shoot farther but bow hunting is getting close not far? just wondring As for your topic, why not have more draw weight? I believe you should have as much draw weight that you as an individual can control. For some that may be 55lbs, for others it may be 75lbs. Personally, I have as much draw weight I can have without excessive movement. I want to be able to hold my bow up at any angle and be able to draw it back. My draw weight is usually 66-68lbs. |
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