I have had the pantera for 2 days and been shooting better than I did with oldbow for 2 years I got 4 inch grouping with new bow CQQL

what is your best grouping with 4 shots at 50 yards???

Well it was many years ago when I shot with fingers and practiced 5 days a week, a couple hundred arrows a day. Keep practicing, you'll get better. Today I'll take your group and be tickled pink.

I can hit a barn 9 out of 10 times at 50 yards

I shoot at 50 just to make the 30's and 20's seem so much easier. Maybe it's just me......but I find a HUGE difference going from 50 to 60yds. At 50....I still feel really confident shooting the vitals area of my 3D deer. At 60....I start to become nervous.

50 yards seems a little long for me and my ability. I feel much more comfortble at 40 yards. With practice and more experience, I will get better and be able to make those longer shots!

I shot 4 arrows and had 2 robinhoods.

I can keep them extremely tight, tight enough to feel comfortable shooting to that distance at live animals.

goherd, how far apart were the two robinhoods? That is amazing really.

I would say that an average group for me at fifty is 4"-5". A really good one is 2" or less. That doesn't mean I don't ever miss because I do. It is amazing how much easier today's equipment makes those longer distances. Like someone said before I shoot 50 and 60 so 30 looks really close.

2 Robinhoods????

Heck, I stack all 4 right on top of each other.

my bow won't shoot that far.