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Sorry silverflicker misunderstood your post, that's my bad.

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exactly. Why do I have to read what you say cause you're so full of crap it is rediculous. You still didn't answer my question. What have you done for our sport lately? ANYTHING????? I bet not. My bet is, you haven't done anything for our sport period, and I really don't care what you're response is cause I'm betting that it's a made up response, just as I would expect from somebody like you. The straight up god's honest truth is that Uncle Ted cares about our sport, and about us as individuals that have rights. Seems as though you don't care at all about someone who is trying to help you in this industry. Just my opinion. All Ted's done is care about our rights as sportsmen.......too bad you can't understand that and I'm sorry that you don't care at all about someone who is trying to protect our rights......think about it.......

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If hunting/bowhunting, etc. was on the federal chopping block of capital hill, with Ted Nugent as the sole representative of how things ought to be from the stand point of the hunting community, then I would gladly give up my right to hunt. Period. Thisdude is not helping us out, and I am ashamed when I even get a glimse of the guy.I definitely change the channel!

I would like to relate a story about myself, which I find humorous and at the same time almost Ted-like (which means I regret this ever happening).

On the farm in the fallof 1988:

My buddy Lee and I lived on small,central Illinois farms not too far from Peoria. We hunted, fished, trapped and aggrivated thetowniesas all farm kids love to do. One evening (out at his place) we told his dad we were goin' out on the town for awhile. Nope, was dad's reply. You're gonna butcher those chickens first.

That was it. You didn't argue with Don-no way. So out to the coop we went. We figured our evening was shot unless we could find a unique new method of butchering chickens at warp speed. We came up with a plan (I'll go into what Don thought of it later).

Lee grabbed the hatchet, and I started grabbing chickens. We hadn't gotten very far, maybe 3 or 4 beheaded and flopping on the ground around the block, with me holding a live one in each hand... Lee standing over the stump with a bloody hatchet, when a black Lincoln town car pulled into the drive. We were about three miles from Interstate 74, so sometimes people would take the wrong exit and drive around in the countryside and have to ask directions back to the highway.

There we were, standing in front of the tool shed illuminated in the headlights of that Lincoln. The car started backing up, we shrugged and started in on the chickens again. Abruptly theLincoln stopped and pulled forward, and awell groomed young man leaned out thedriver side windowandsaid something wedidn't catch.

I walked over to his side while Lee went to the passenger side. Yes, I still had a chicken in one hand, and Lee had the bloody hatchet. The other chicken was floppingmessily on the ground in the cars' headlights. The guy said, "how do I get back to I74?" I took a quick look at the passenger (a young blond gal, all fixed up with her face buried in her hands). I glanced at Lee and caught a wink. It was on.

"Weell," I said in my most realistic hillbilly, "I reckon it's over yonder there."

"Could you give me directions?"

I scratch my head using the hand holding the live chicken. Lee was busting a gut, and I was having a hard time keeping a smile off myself.

"I guess you go back that way a mile or so, and then hang a right, go a mile, hang a left...yeeah, you should see it then."

He had the window half rolled up as he said, "thanks," pulled out of the yard and spun gravel.

About an hour later we presented Don with 16 beautiful skinless chickens ready to wrap and toss in the freezer. "You knot heads didn't pluck 'em!" was all we heard as we ran for the truck.

It is good for people to understand where and how they fit into the cycle of life and how things generally work, butI justdon't thinkthat "sticking a gun in a lambs mouth" and blowing it's head off on national TV is the way to do it. As time goes on there will be many more people born in urban/disconnected areas (in terms of hunting and agriculture) than in rural areas. Not to say city folks don't figure out how to hunt on their own or through family/friends, but it is imperative that we give hunting the best public face possible to those who are basically indifferent. The loss of hound hunting for fox in England is a good example. They have been doing it for centuries, but the general public thinks it is cruel and therefore ought to be illegal. Hound hunting for bears ended at the ballot boxwhen I lived in Oregon. How much more do we want to lose?

By the way, if either of the occupants of that Lincoln are reading this, I apologize for turning you into vegans/fruititarians or members of any other ideologicalgroupyou might havejoined because of this traumatic experience. However, we still consider it pretty funny.

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I'm a Christian.....but I don't want Jerry Falwell speaking for me.

I'm a Conservative Republican.....and I sure as HELL don't want GWB speaking for me.

I'm a Hunter.....and I don't want the Nuge as my front-man. I like the guy....I just can't see how people don't understand he's stirring up sh&t that doesn't need stirring. Let sleeping dogs lie (Or.....shoot a lamb in the head on national TV ad wake 'em up).

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So? The Golden Moose Award is the only one that matters. Sorry for you you dont get Ted. Ted went hunting and is still Ted. You went caniballing and are still a canibal.

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All of us have our own opinions about Ted's lamb episode and Ted in general.I am not a controversial person,so it is hard for me to relate to someone who is.I don't watch Ted,although I have in the past.I read him occaissionally when he has a column in a hunting magazine.Personally I don't care for the way he goes about what he does and I don't believe that he is helping us as hunters,I honestly believe that he is doing us more harm than good.There is an expression that who you are speaks so loudly I can't hear what you are saying.I believe Ted has very little ability if any to influence non hunters because of how extreme he is.
When I think of the hunters I most respect or any one else,they are the folks that go about what they do with a quiet dignity,no need to call attention to themselves.You garner a lot more respect with people when you show them courtesty,this doesn't mean you have to agree with them.When you push people with emotion or otherwise they push back.Ted is very likely polarizing us much more in the non hunting community's eyes,when to reach these people we should be looking to show them what we have in common,not how we are different!

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Very good post.

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Sycophant? Not hardly. Although there certainly are people who virtually worship him, I'm not one of them.

But I do happen to agree with a lot of what he says. A lot of times I don't. For example, I thought he made an ass of himself over the Michigan dove hunting issue. I'm not opposed to dove hunting, but it was obvious to me that it was going to lose big and I thought it was utterly stupid to waste political capital on the issue.

Some of Ted's disciples are now claiming that they are going to come to Michigan and hunt doves anyway. What happened to respect for the law?

I also found myself at odds with him when he was enthusiastically supporting that bill to allow nationwide carry for off-duty cops. I just couldn't bring myself to accept the idea that off-duty cops should have a greater constitutional right than the rest of us.

On the other hand, I think he does a service with his outspoken support of hunting and gun rights. We all have our own way of expressing ourselves and his style isn't mine. (As you may have noticed.) But sometimes we need somebody to point out that the emperor has no clothes before we are willing to look around at each other and admit, well yeah, that's what I was thinking but I thought it would be rude to mention it.

I've been around awhile and I can remember when you shot your deer, strapped it on the back of your car and drove home. Now we're supposed to hide it. Is a deer hidden any less dead? No, but the anti-hunting people have done a great job of convincing us that we are supposed to feel a bit ashamed about killing Bambi or one of his relatives.

So I get just a little depressed when I see so many people afraid that the anti-hunting folks may find a relatively obscure (after all, how many anti-hunting people watch Nugent's show anyway) action by a rock star/TV personality offensive.

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Nicepost tsoc. I was looking around on Ted's site the other night and on one of his post's He say's, He's your friend, because He will tell you if you have a Bugger on your nose! I think to myself, that would all depend on how you tell me!He walk's up and say's, Excuse me, but you have a bugger on your nose, I say, thank's for pointing that out! If He walk's up and say's, You Ignorant Moron, you have a Bugger on the end of your Nose, He get's his Bell Rung! Right now he isgetting his bell rung by some of the very people that would like to support Him!

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Hello... Off duty cops in Chicago are duty-bound to intercede if a crime is being commited. They are essentially on call. For this duty to be realistic the would need to be armed.... As far as hunting doves in Mi, if they do it as civil disobedience and do not resist arrest this is fine. It calls attention to the issue in hopes that the law can be changed..
Ted Nugent is nuts ,but he has a right to do and say as he wishes. As far as being in it for the money, so is Bill Jordan ,Michael Waddell The Drury Boys et. al.