Are crows, squirrels, and turkeys all snitches?
12-29-2006, 09:50 PM
#12
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RE: Are crows, squirrels, and turkeys all snitches?
New question begs asking:
Seeing the overwhelming consensus, should I bring my pump pellet handgun to silence the snitches (the ones legal anyway) and risk gettin busted by approaching deer or just take my chances by leaving the squirrels be?
See, I figure if I can cap a red with the relatively quiet pellet gun, it might save a deer from being alerted by the barking. But... since deer are so keen for seeing movement, I might get busted trying not to get busted. LOL. What would you do?
Seeing the overwhelming consensus, should I bring my pump pellet handgun to silence the snitches (the ones legal anyway) and risk gettin busted by approaching deer or just take my chances by leaving the squirrels be?
See, I figure if I can cap a red with the relatively quiet pellet gun, it might save a deer from being alerted by the barking. But... since deer are so keen for seeing movement, I might get busted trying not to get busted. LOL. What would you do?
12-29-2006, 10:03 PM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Northwest suburbs, Illinois
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RE: Are crows, squirrels, and turkeys all snitches?
This is gonna sound funny or weird.. but her's my trick.
1. don't make eye contact with the squirrel.
2. never move when the squirrels are close to you or looking at you, and if you do, move slowly in a non threatening way.
3. once they catch you and start to bark.. grab your bow in a non threatening way and prepare to kill the squirrel. I know it sounds dumb.. but I've had more squirrels shut up at this point and never had to take a shot once. don't know why..[&:]
4. once the chipmunks get started just ignore them and sit still. After several minutes they loose interest and leave you alone.
It always seems to me that the little rodents mistake you for hawks or owls. After a period of time they will almost become comfortable with you being there. They will just continue on their way staying about 30 yards or more away and ignore you once they realize you have no interest in them.
1. don't make eye contact with the squirrel.
2. never move when the squirrels are close to you or looking at you, and if you do, move slowly in a non threatening way.
3. once they catch you and start to bark.. grab your bow in a non threatening way and prepare to kill the squirrel. I know it sounds dumb.. but I've had more squirrels shut up at this point and never had to take a shot once. don't know why..[&:]
4. once the chipmunks get started just ignore them and sit still. After several minutes they loose interest and leave you alone.
It always seems to me that the little rodents mistake you for hawks or owls. After a period of time they will almost become comfortable with you being there. They will just continue on their way staying about 30 yards or more away and ignore you once they realize you have no interest in them.
12-29-2006, 10:20 PM
#14
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Harford County, MD
Posts: 434
RE: Are crows, squirrels, and turkeys all snitches?
The squirrels around here tend to be. Haven't had much contact with crows while in the woods.
If there is one bird that is a snitch and a loud one at that, its those damn Blue Jays. [:@] Those things go nuts when they see something they don't like.
If there is one bird that is a snitch and a loud one at that, its those damn Blue Jays. [:@] Those things go nuts when they see something they don't like.
12-29-2006, 10:54 PM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oregon
Posts: 4,405
RE: Are crows, squirrels, and turkeys all snitches?
The squrriels certainly can be annoying, i had a couiple get me all excited think it was a big buck but it was a stupid ole gray squrriel crunching a ton of leaves
12-29-2006, 11:09 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: ND
Posts: 1,627
RE: Are crows, squirrels, and turkeys all snitches?
ORIGINAL: TFOX
I have started,just recently,making a blowing sound like deer when I here them doing it.Sometimes,they have no idea what they are blowing at.More often than not,they just go on about their buisness,I am assuming they thought they were blowing at another deer.
I don't know if I am crazy(ok,maybe I am crazy) but I truely believe this is true.[:-]
I have started,just recently,making a blowing sound like deer when I here them doing it.Sometimes,they have no idea what they are blowing at.More often than not,they just go on about their buisness,I am assuming they thought they were blowing at another deer.
I don't know if I am crazy(ok,maybe I am crazy) but I truely believe this is true.[:-]
When the pheasant roostersstart flying or crowing... be ready... deer are moving near by in CRP or grass area here. Tyler likes his cat naps while waiting for the last hour of shooting time. When the first rooster crows or flies, he snaps back to life. I always get a chuckle out of that. His little alarm clock.
12-29-2006, 11:34 PM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: RI
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RE: Are crows, squirrels, and turkeys all snitches?
ORIGINAL: dukemichaels
ABSOLUTELY..!
Chipmunks and squirrels alert the entire forest floor when danger is present. Anytime a hawk or another predator are near the chipmunks chirp violently from the ground and the squirrels get high into the trees, hold tight to the trunk, and bark. Anyone who disagrees with this one has not spent enough time in the woods.
As far as turkeys.. they don't give off an alarm.. but whitetail feel more comfortable when they are present. And when they run off in a hurry they know something is off.
I don't think crows do.. but I could be wrong. I just have never observed it while in stand. Crows are very sociable and 'speak' to each other often when in the woods. They gather in groups called murders and search out food sources such as carcasses etc. While I don't believe they warn other animals of danger, they are associated with dead animals who do have predators usually nearby. i.e. the coyote.
ABSOLUTELY..!
Chipmunks and squirrels alert the entire forest floor when danger is present. Anytime a hawk or another predator are near the chipmunks chirp violently from the ground and the squirrels get high into the trees, hold tight to the trunk, and bark. Anyone who disagrees with this one has not spent enough time in the woods.
As far as turkeys.. they don't give off an alarm.. but whitetail feel more comfortable when they are present. And when they run off in a hurry they know something is off.
I don't think crows do.. but I could be wrong. I just have never observed it while in stand. Crows are very sociable and 'speak' to each other often when in the woods. They gather in groups called murders and search out food sources such as carcasses etc. While I don't believe they warn other animals of danger, they are associated with dead animals who do have predators usually nearby. i.e. the coyote.
I always listen to the woods, a blue jay screeching or squirrel barking could mean a deer is approaching, it does work two ways. Crows making a racket could mean there's a Tom strutting nearby. Its pretty cool when you hear something making a racket and associate that noise with something else going on as opposed to just you getting busted by the varmint.
One wierd day I had a red squirrel bark his head off at me, then watched as he retreated through the V of a double trunked tree just as a hawk was swooping down on him. The squirrel made it, and the hawk perched about 10 yards from me at eye level. While I'm watching this hawk watch this squirrel, a flock of blue jays came along screeching their heads off and chased the hawk away. So what, that I didn't see any deer that day...
12-30-2006, 07:13 AM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: wisconsin
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RE: Are crows, squirrels, and turkeys all snitches?
I got busted by turkeys this year alot.I could see the one that spied me from 50 yds at most times.He had that(wasnt there yesterday look) on his face.and started talking nervous.The rest just stayed low and made a circle arround me.
the deer sure do use the turkies for scouts.Turkies roll in ,2 minutes deer roll in.The buck was actually playing with one of them.Wasnt realy trying ti hurt it,Just pawed slowly and lowered his head and slowly charged.It was realy funny.
the deer sure do use the turkies for scouts.Turkies roll in ,2 minutes deer roll in.The buck was actually playing with one of them.Wasnt realy trying ti hurt it,Just pawed slowly and lowered his head and slowly charged.It was realy funny.