Help me get this land!
 

So I'm helping my buddy track a doe he shot the other day. 3/4 of a mile later (long story for another thread), we come to a crossroad. The deer goes onto a piece of property that we have no idea who owns. A bunch of phone calls later and 12 different doors knocked on we finally find out who owns it.

We talk to her for a bit and she gives us permission to continue (cool). We ask if anyone else is hunting there that we should know about cause I'd rather not get shot or ruin someones hunt. She says nobody has hunts those woods [:-]. I didn't want to drop the bomb then and there because we had other issues to deal with at the moment, but the thought of new land immediately popped into my noggin.

So anyway we're plodding along trailing the doe. Thickets, swamps, pines, crop fields, swail, food, bed, funnels, ridges, etc.....
All I can say is.................


I dont' know how many deer we jumped/saw. Cant even count the rubs,beds, and scrapes. A little 400 acre piece of unhunted paradise.

Sooooooo I need toput together mygameplan on how to go about aquiring this little honey hole:D[8D]. Let's hear some of your best lines to use when approaching a landowner with potential to gain permission.

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Ma'am, when I was out on your land the other day I saw that some of your fences needed mending.......

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Offer something in trade and don't expect to get something for nothing. It doesn't have to be money, but maybe she would like some of the meat, or help with something around her house. Just not acting like you should be entitled to the use of her land could go a long way. I'm not saying you would act that way, I am just saying... Good luck.

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Old lady?? Older lonely people love company.(they love homemade pies, too)Go give her a 'thank you' for letting you track on her land. Butter her up a bit, grease the wheels if ya know what I'm sayin'(but not in that way:D)

Hey looky there, #500. and it only took over a year.

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In a month or so reintroduce yourself. Thank her for the access and let her know that you were successful in finding the deer. Tell her how beautiful her land is. Say you'd like to ask ask permission to bow hunt the land in return for some type of services such as cutting grass, painting, refinishing, etc.etc. Let her know you are willing to give something back for your permission to hunt there.

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Take her to bingo night, get her all liquered up, fly her to vegas and marry her. Then turn around and divorce her and take half, or just this 400 acers;).

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Start by re-introducing yourself. Then:
Ma'am I just dropped by to tell you Thank You for allowing us to track our deer on your land. We finally found her and now she is being processed. I was curious to know if you would like some of the meat? Also I couldn't help but notice how wonderful your land looks. I was wondering if there was anything I could do for you in exchange to hunt out here some. I will only be bow hunting so you don't have to worry about me having a gun on your land. I don't want to rush your decision so I will leave you my name and number, and if you think we might can work something out please give me a call.

Then before you leave tell her you look foward to hearing from her.

Wait a month or so, and stop back by if need be.

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I was thinking the same thing pretty much.;)

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Germ:

How about the advice from Joe Brooks? It's never NOT worked, for me. It's VERY sound. Rob/PA's got my book....or I'd type it out for you.

Start by getting an aerial map of the land, though. Maybe Germ'll post the rest.

Jeff

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This aint a gun in my pocket and Im sure glad to see you.

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Well I do not have my book either, LOL
Be polite, dress nice, take the map with you and show her the property line. Drive a car, not a truck for her. Make sure it is an american car. Have a resume of your huntingto give to her. Act like it isthe job of a lifetime for you.Leave the resume and have her call you back. Like Jeff said it works!

If that does not work, thenget her drunk:)

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I would not do that unless she says no. Then just ask her to reconsider and you'll come back in a few days if that's OK with her.

If you have to come back, bring a gift.

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She'll tell you she don't like snubbed nosed pistols anyways.

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I can see where your coming from, but some times people want time to think about a decision without you standing there just waiting fora yes or a no. It is kind of like the car salesman who doesn't want you to leave without telling him yes or no.


EDIT: I should have edited my first post by saying if she doesn't come out with a resounding YES, and she acts hesitant. Then I would.......

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I always tell them this:
1. I am a State Certified Hunter's Ed/Safety Instructor
2. I have a $500,000.00 insurance policy.
3. A waver will be signed releasing the landowner from all responsiblity/liability.
4. I will ONLY be taking kids hunting/viewing wildlife and no other hunter will be on their land.
5. During and after the season we will have a clean up day to pick up litter on the land.
6. (Depending on the person) I offer to share or give all of the meat to the landowner.
7. No perm. stands will be put up.
8. No trees will be cut and/or damaged.

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I FORGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL the things Germ said plus......

1) Go on a nice, pretty day.
2) Go to the sie door (Only people wanting to sell you something use the front door)
3) Tell her you hunt with a bow and arrow. Doesn't that sound harmless????...lol

Jeff

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I always let them ask "what do you hunt with?" Then I reply, whatever you would like for me to, but usually bow and arrow.
Some want you to use firearms (don't ask 'cause I don't know why) but most, like Jeff is pointing out, feel safer knowing it's "just" bow and arrow.

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My son has a new approach to getting access to new hunting spots. He takes his 2 year old Daughter with him. Let's her tell stories about big Bucks while holding her hands up by her cute little head as if a deers rack, She even tells a story about a non typical and holds one hand down! If thay dont have it leased, or to many members of their own family hunting it, he gets permission every time!!! One old fella was laughing and had tears in his eyes and said, you sure got her trained dont ya Son. It works for Him. I'm gonna barrow her next year!!!

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well what i did once to get land was come over to see he/she an ask how is the hunting out here ask if he/she needs help with anything around the house or yard an then say well do you like deer meat i have alot in my freezer but nowhere to put all of it an was wounder if you would like some of it no charge just tryna be friendly then when she gains your trust after a few times of giving her deer meat say well i see your land has alot of deer an i just lost the land i was hunting befor (make some story up) an say well if it wasnt a bother would you mind if i bow hunted your land a few times in return i would give ya some deer meat an do some handyman work around the house an yard i wont gun hunt i promise an 9 times out of 10 your hunting that land the next week

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The period is a very useful form of punctuation when writing. I am not bashing on you, because I know this isn't Grammer class. But it will make your posts easier to read, and people will tend to take you a bit more serious.

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That is good, because Grammer is in Indiana, and I suck at Grammar also[8D]

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LOL see there!

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offer to trade sex for hunting rights ? :eek:

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A box of beer and a jar of wiskey usually works good for me.

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Send the nice lady a thank you / X-Mas card or even a small gift thanking her for allowing you access to recover your deer. After the hunting season follow up with her concerning your wants. Best of luck with this honey hole.

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Don't make a trip over there to thank her and ask at that time, instead take her some deer sausage, etc. and thank her. While there just get to know her better and let her do most of the talking. Many times they will let slip something that needs to be done or they just want someone to lend an ear. Wait a few days or a couple of weeks and strike up another conversation and if she is in the mood, you might seek permission at that time. If its unhunted and a deer paradise there is a reason. Kid gloves needed for this one!

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If it is an old lady by herself, she could definitely use some yard work or work around the house in exchange for a hunt or two. That is what I would offer her and she couldn't refuse!

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Offer golf lessons of course.

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LMAO. Well she is a looker for mid 40's!

I'm liking all the ideas and input. I think a follow up thank you for letting me track the deer on your land is a good idea. I'll bring her a couple summer sausages, offer to be the son she never had, and see where the conversation leads. Thanks for the advice.

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You going to put some drives on??

That's your pet name for it now?

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Cayuga County?

I'm mid 50's and single - I'd remember you come Oct (son):D.

Steve

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you make mid 40s sound old[:o]

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:D:D:D pretty similar now that I think about it.
Yes Cayuga County. Where in NY are ya? Heck I may be able to hook ya up dad.

Nah I'm just saying...... [:-]

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North of Moravia, south of Owasco- and willing to travel!;)

Comes a time you realize that getting older justs means the water you swim in gets deeper.

Good luck

Steve

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Wow you're right around the corner from me.

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As everyone has said offer something when asking to hunt next year. I take it you found the doe. Take a small portion to say thanks for letting you track the deer. Also find out what she enjoys. Personal situation yrs ago property owner enjoyed sewing was willing to allow use of land for some of the pelts so she could make x-mas gifts. Good luck

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This may sound funny but don't ask for permission during the hunting season. Wait until summer then ask, I do this when seeking permission for my fox and coyote trapping. Most landowners will look at you more seriously because you are planning ahead and not just trying to (Enter there property and kill something). The larger landowners (FARMERS) are usually bailing hay, offer to help them for a weekend chances are you will have a place to hunt for life.