shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

i just watched north american whitetail hunt, and this guy shoots a 9 way far back, right around the back leg and up a little, they come back the next day, and of course they find there deer, sometimes these shows make me wonder, if i made that same shot would i find him?

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

You probably would.

Chances are he hit the femoral artery.

The deer would bleed out pretty quickly and leave a decent trail.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

lung/heart shots are overrated, aim for that back leg :D

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

I just saw that 2 he had a little angle on the shot. it might have clipped something.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

there are tons of arteries in the back leg. Chuck adams himself endorses ham shots if that's the only shot you're presented. In his buck grand slam he talks about how you shouldn't pass up a ham shot if it's presented because of the massive amount of arteries back there.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

yea it will kill them. i shot a doe (with a rifle) in the back leg(not intentional, she lunged as i shot from 180 yds. so it hit her far back) and we found her after a ton of tracking.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Can't sayI agree with that at all.

You shouldn't take the shot unless you can get both lungs and or the heart.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

well all I can say is I've killed two deer on ham shots, both hit major arteries, and it was the only shot I had. I think if the most famous bowhunter in the world says it's ok, then it's ok by me.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

I hit one in the hind quarter once on a deflection and the deer went 15 yards and dropped. At first I was bummed, I thought "oh know" but with in seconds the deer was down! I was shocked, the blood trail was 3 feet wide!

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Oh boy, I can see all the "I hit one in the ass on pourpose guys help me find it" threads from this awfull advice.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Yeah def. a femeral artery hit.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

yeah you would probley find him

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

I would never take this type of a shot on purpose! I hope it didn't come off like that. My shot was a combination of a deflection and the deer darting off! I was not happy about the shot, just happy that I recovered the deer, it dropped with in sight. I was extremely LUCKY!!!! I too hope people don't start taking this shot on purpose, not good! JMO!

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

If the only shot you have is the ham...YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE THE SHOT!

Washington Hunter, you are correct; lung shot, heart shot, or no shot.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

it will kill of course but you would be shooting for something as big around as your thumb. yea dont try it. my brother shor a huge 10 point there accidentaly(twig) and it ran lickety split for 250 yards and fell over stone dead. luck of course.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Chuck writes in his most recent column in yesterday's issue of Bowhunting World that he recalled Fred Bear promoting the rear ham shot to him because of the abundance of blood vessels back there, but Chuck himself said he wouldn't advise it. Maybe he's rethought his position since the release of his book.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

I should hope so, I can't imagine someone (Chuck especially) promoting such a low percentage shot in this day and age.

Back in FredBear's day, perhaps, but definitely not in the 2000's.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

I was leaving a sport shop in Grayling, Mi. many years ago, when Chuck Boname (probably spelled wrong) Fred Bears, Secretarys Son, Pulled up with a nice, wide 8pt in the back of a truck and says Hay John, if you can find were I shot this deer you can have it! After looking it over real good Chuck began to laugh grabed its rear leg and opend up a lenght wise cut running down the bottom part of the leg with the Bear Broadhead buired in its hoof!! Said He had shot it right under his stand, and did not know were he had hit it, but hadfair, to noBlood,and after a long tracking job found it. Don't shoot deer in the hoofs!

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

I accidently shot a nice buck in the hams about a week after my borother-in-law did the same thing - also by accident. In both cases, we had excellent blood trails leading to dead deer about 50 yards away. I don't recommend or endorse the shot and would never intentionallytake it, but it often results in a easy recovery.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

I also have stuck one in the ham (quartering to, hit way to far back...before I knew better), broadhead actually came out between his legs, fletchings sticking out just in front of the ham 6 inches or so. The buck just stood there. I was soooo bummed, I nocked another arrow and didn't get another shot opportunity and he slowly walked 20 yards and fell over. He left a blood trail 2' wide.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Besides the obvious......I kinda like EATING the hams!

Jeff

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Ditto. I would never ever advise or condone that shot, but I've been there.Same as bowhunting fool. A combination of a couple bad things happened in an instance. I was sick as the arrow was leaving my rest and heading towards his rump. Fortunately I got LUCKY that it hit that artery. The buck I hit went about 20 yards and piled up head over heels. Blood trail like you wouldn't believe. Not a very good idea to intentionally take that shot.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Don't know wether to laugh out loud or cry.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Chuck Adams got all rations of excriment when he shot a bull elk at 38 yards because it was "too long" of a shot. I really don't think he would purposefully shoot one in the ham.Not only isitcompletely inhumane, but it is also pure chance ifyou hit a major artery or not and as a professional he can't risk turning peopleoff and losing endorsements. Just my thoughts.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Greg you might have me on that, cause I can remember reading that so that one's my bad. That was Fred, I could have sworn it was Chuck but you got me on that one.

Personally I'm still going to take the shot. I've never seen a deer lost on that shot. You guys can give me as much crap as you want but I'm still going to do it. And it's funny because I'm getting ripped apart on here for saying I'd do it, but look at all you guys that have accidentally done it and found your dead deer not too far away. I think that makes my statement for me.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Shot a small doe accidentally in the ham (deflection) needed a doe tag filled to get a buck tag so I took a shot with the doe behind a small bush. Clipped the artery,lots of blood but the deer took about an hour to die. I wouldn't aim for this shot on purpose!

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

I've gut shot deer before and recovered them, but I wouldn't set out to do it becuse it "worked" once.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

There's a big difference between accidentally hitting one there and getting lucky and trying to hit one there hoping to get lucky. What are you going to be aiming at? The artery? It's like a needle in a haystack. I don't think anything said has made your statement for you. It's pure luck and your recovery rate will NOT be good.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

1) I saw a caribou carrying an arrow around in his ham 2 days after my buddy made a terrible shot and hit him there. The thing was in absolute misery and would bed down whenever the rest of the herd would stop. I never was able to get close enough to end it for him.

2) I shot a really big 8 in the back ham once. He was quartering away and on my release turned and it whacked his back hip. Luckily I was able to get another shot and put that one through his lungs. When I butchered him I checked to see what that arrow hit.... muscle and that is all.

Just look at a detailed anatomy picture of a deer and you will see it is a bad idea.

Of course, it is obvious from your previous postbowtech that you don't let facts get in the way of your opinion.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

That's just a dumb comment on your part IMO. First of all I'm not saying that's the shot I'm taking to kill the animal if I've got several shot opportunities. If I've got any angle on lungs that's the shot I'm taking.

That said, If the only shot I've got is hams, I'm taking the shot. If i'm not getting any openings, no vitals shot, then that arrows going right through the hams, and I will gaurantee you that deer will drop.

I'm going to defend myself on this one all the way through. I know I'm asking for it on this thread, but I'm still going to defend it.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Are you that hard up to kill a deer? I guess your deer target must be shot up head to hoove. As far as me making a dumb comment......I'm not the one that promoted shooting a deer in the leg...thats all you skippy.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Yeah I know that, but what I'm saying is look how many of you guys have recovered your animals. And I'm still saying if it's the only shot I've got I'm taking it. By the way I'm not hoping to get lucky. I've seen as many deer killed hit in the hams as I have seen through the lungs. Yeah these are all "accidents" but at the same time I've seen quite a few deer dropped in this instance.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Why ya getting all worked up, do I got you guys' blood flowing yet.

And if I want that deer bad enough yeah.

As far as shot up head to hoof, no. Claiming I'm not a good shot? Let's take it to the range, and find out. I know by all standards everyone's going to say "you're an idiot" well that's fine.

I still believe in the shot if it's the only one you're presented.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

I'm not nescessarily that hard up to kill a deer. I've killed my fair share. But if I've got a shooter buck and that's the only shot I've got, my arrows gone. If I'm sitting there and up comes a few does, or some small bucks, I'd let 'em pass anyways (that's a whole different thread) but if it's a shooter, yeah the 75/95 is on it's way.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

If it's the only shot presented then wait!!

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

You're not going to always get the perfect shot no matter how long you wait.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Thats why its called hunting...not gimping.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

If you shoot a deer in the ass on purpose you are an idiot. Plain and simple!

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

you guys keep calling me an idiot but look how many deer already mentioned have been dropped. I've never seen a deer shot in the ass not recovered. Plain and Simple.

RE: shot in the back leg and the deer still dies?
 

Rear-end Shots:
[ul][*]Bow - This is a shot all responsible bow hunters will pass up. The only major target in the rear quarters is the femoral artery, which is smaller than your little finger and extremely well protected by heavy leg and hip bones. Also, the hindquarters have very heavy muscle tissue which, together with the heavy bone structure and viscera, make it a long, questionable journey for an arrow to get up front to the vital organs of even a small deer. [/ul]