Proof Wounded Deer Can Live
 

Here are a couple of pics of a buck I have watched for months that I found where someone tried to poach it. This buck is illegal in the state of Arkansas, and was shot about the 23rd or 24th of Nov. I have pics of it still alive all the way up to the 29th. I have not checked the cameras since the 29th. BTW. I have this buck on 2 different cameras at my lease. I have called the state, and the Game Wardens are setting up to watch my lease for a while. This is the 2nd illegal buck I have found over the 7 days prior to the 29th.

But this shows that a buck can live with a neck shot. Also , this may be the result of a gun hunter.

God bless

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how do you know thats a gun shot, and not anything else?

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You know I was involved in an "argument" over on archerytalk with a guy who quit shooting for the lungs in favor of neckshots with a bow. You wouldn't believe how many guys on that thread that also were in favor of neck shots.

This pic could have just been a bad shot, an accident, or anything. But regardless I don't think neck shots are a good idea.

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What makes it illegal??

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Could it be from fighting??

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What's your point? Just because something is NOT ILLEGAL doesn't make it right. It's not illegal to shoot an arrow into a deer's eye socket either. But it's still wrong.

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Well, It is illeagal in Arkansas, because we have a three point rule, and have had for several years. This deer is a fork and a spike.

The wound is either a gun or bow, but having seen deer shot in the neck with a gun on a few occasions, and having hunted for more than a few years , leads me to believe it is a gun shot.

And we have a fair amount of poaching that goes on at the properties around our lease. And they have been doing this for the last few years.

God Bless

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gzg38b---did you even read his post? He said this buck is illegal in Arkansas!! That is why I asked!

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Thats all I wanted to know. Got that gzg38b?

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i doubt that wound is from a weapon, its probly from fighting or a fence, because theres a wound on the side ofhis neck, than another one above his neck

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I hope he makes it.. poachers are scum

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My bad. I missed that. I thought you were talking about neck shots being illegal.

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What proof do you have that it was even shot? Could have been from fighting! And what is illegal about it?

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It isn't from fighting. And there are no fences in this area. This deer is a "local" deer meaning I was seeing it every morning and evening at my three feeders on my lease. The feeders are spread out over about 40 acres. The buck would move through that 40 acre area the 80 behind me, and the 80 beside me to the north and south west.The other guys in my lease are hunting the East and south East sections of the lease. He is also caught on my 3 cameras for almost all night, most nights of the week.

Just trust me when I say I know it is poaching. Plus I have several other shots of the wounds and can look at a lot of different aspects.

Also, This is a young buck that would not be in any serious fight, if we even had any serious fights between bucks in this area anyway.

You guys need to learn to trust peoples judgement about deer in their area. I cannot believe how many people have questioned the validity of it being a poaching incident. But, the local Game Wardens saw the pics and thought so too.

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Where do some of these people come from:eek:. Geeeeezzzz.

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i still doubt it was from a poacher, unless he brang a stand, because if it was a bullet it went in the top of his neck and came out the side wich can only be done from up high, and he has horrible aim if it is a poacher

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It's frustrating how we as hunters can put hundreds of dollars and hours into hunting and then a poacher ruins it all for what? It looks to me like it's a gun or bow shot, I also don't think he had that bad of aim. The neck of a deer is not that large, he probably missed his mark by a matter of inches, which is what makes neck shots poor unethical shots. There is a very small margin of error.
Recently a friend of mine who I've grown to respect as a very good bowhunter told me how he had a doe come in to his bait pile. He decided to shoot her behind her ear. He made the shot and it all worked out, but the distance a deers head and neck can move from the time the arrow is released and the time it hit it's mark can be surprising. I don't think it was a good or smart shot, but just luck, and I lost a lot of respect for him as a bowhunter at that point.

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I say again, ABarOfSoap, it was a poacher. There are three 40 acre plots of land being hunted by two different leases, that butt up against my lease to the west, the side of the lease with thecameras. They have their own stands up, and hunt those stands very close to the property line. One shack stand they have was put up 61 feet from the property line overlooking 80 acres of our lease that was logged in august. The reason IT IS POACHING IS BECAUSE THE BUCK DOES NOT MEET THE STATE MINIMUM, FOR THREE POINTS ON ONE SIDE.

Man, what does it take????

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Oh yeah, that buck has DEFINETLY been shot....It's amazing how resiliant them little buggers can be.

I hesitate to say, but I'm going to. Last weekend I shot a small doe w/ my bow. I hit her EXTREMELY high, and to make a very long story short, I stopped tracking because I was CONVINCED the deer was going to survive. I'm not going to go into all the evidence, but I was 100% certain the deer would be fine.

Fast forward to today. I was hunting the same area this afternoon and saw that doe, alive and well. Other than the obvious wound, she looked to be perfectly fine. And very relieved I was!!! More proof that sometimes we just don't kill them. I'm just glad that the buck in these photos, and the doe I've mentioned, are alive and well. Better that than lying in the woods rotting somewhere.

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You've got to be kidding me!

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Here's a pic of a deer that was shot by a guy one of my buddies knows. The pic is about 2 weeks after being shot.

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What an amazing photo! Not much arguing that one! Amazing. That even appears to have been a good shot.

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man thats an amazing photo, look at that bucks body size!! just curious but whats your buddies setup look like? it looks as if that buck is on one lung and will probably stay that way for the rest of his life

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A guy my buddy knows shot the deer. It looks like he has been licking aroud the wound. He also looks skinny and holds that left foot up ( I've got other photos of him) I feel uncomfortable putting that on the net.

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we dont mind seeing them ;)

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well i still want to know his setup!! :D

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May be an animal attack wound. The bottom cut in the picture looks like the same shape as a bottom jaw/teeth of an animal. Its also in the area an animal would attack.Doesn't look like a normal exit wound of a gun or bow. Just a possibility that shouldn't be ruled out.

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My buddy shot a doe earlier this year in the neck. The next weekend I hunted the same stand, she came by and I got her. The wound in her neck was already starting to heal.

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That buck with the arrow in him might not even be single lunged. Look at the angle of that arrow. It might have missed the near lung completely.

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I didn't read a single post, not even the thread starter. I did look at the picture but my point is,

I didn't need this "proof" that wounded deer survive....I already know they are amazing animals......Luv them!

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Hey GregH.

About the buck in your pic, Do you know the guys set up and why he did not get more penetration?? Was it a long shot ??

MET

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I'm not sure what the guys setup was and I'm a bit rusty on the story. I'll call my friend that knows the guy and ask.

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To believe or not to believe. This deer was to reported be found with this in his chest cavity (from a previous year wound). Makes you want to be careful field dressing a deer after seeing the picture whether you believe or not.

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could have been attacked by something

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Proof they can survive yes. But for how long? How will such a wound affect an animal over a long cold winter? And because the wounds are still open he could still succumb to infection. I hope he makes it untilhe meets your antler requirments.

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What does this mean? I think that you are directing this towards me since I posted the pic. First, I didn't shoot the deer and don't know the guy that did. Read my post again. Second, If I did shoot the deer, then he already met my requirements.

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No GregH, that was for MichaelT about the original post pics. If that deer you posted was on anybobys restricted antler list I would be amazed! I am very curious about the setup that guy used or how long the shot was to have so little penetration. I thought about maybe a mech head malfunction. Sorry I didn't make it clear about which deer I was refering to.

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Last year I shot a doe that was missing it's front leg. I'm guessing it was shot off the year before, because it was healed over.

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This buck here I mounted because I nicknamed him the "Cripple" buck.



I shot him because of an injury. You can see he's a smaller deer, neck and chest....

His right rear leg was smashed. His femur bone was sticking out at the "knee" and healed over. His paw was curled and he was walking what would have been the top and he was caliced over and hard. His hip was small. It was obvious he was smashed by a car. They go through a lot and they are amazingly resilient animals.

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What was wrong with that really smallish Elk next to it.

Was it just its time....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

God Bless