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Old 11-28-2006 | 01:46 PM
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Noone has mentioned cam design,if you have two bows with 65% lo- 6 inch bh -30 inch dl the cam design is now the deciding factor as to which bow is faster -smoother roll over ,perhaps a more agresive cam design is on the way.
That would be true if the same limbs were used, the same release was used, same positioning of the rest,arrow type,etc was used. You'd have to control all the variables,

Then the draw cycle curve would be the only factor (this is a factor of cam design). The cam that can get you to the peak bow weight fastest and stay there the longest will get you the fastest bow. But there is not much room left in the draw cycle curve anymore. I think that is what most people are saying.
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Old 11-28-2006 | 01:51 PM
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Last I knew, most of the big name 3-d orgs,except IBO, were all using a speed limit. 280 fps + or - 3% = 288fps. It was designed to allow the short draw length archers to compete with the long draw guys. Not sure if this has changed. Usually along with increased speed comes some negatives. Noise, vibration and excessive wear and tear on parts.
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Old 11-28-2006 | 01:57 PM
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For my next bow, I would really like a longbow to start whacking deer with.
Just some thoughts,
Just do it man, don't even think about it!
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Old 11-28-2006 | 02:21 PM
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I too have been having a hankerin to take one with a recurve or long bow which is what I grew up with(assuming that I grew up) This off season thats the plan,to get real acurate before I try.I guess a speed freaks obsession is relative to shooting a gun in a sense,not to havea faster bow than the next guy but to be able to kill anything on the planet,pass through bone,skulls,or whatever gets in its way.Granted I use the bk for 3d but its camo for a reason,I have a set of 4 arrows that wiegh 666 grainswith a 150 grain head.and if my dream ever comes true I`ll be takin a big brown bear with that bow,I don`t want to clog up this forum with a bunch of threads today(I probobly already have) but you guys gotta see this pic sometime and the story behind it,I took on all my relatives at the family reunion with my bow against all thier guns from 100 yards for 10$ a head and won (shooting at a ten dollar bill) thats what I love about a fast bow,the doors it opens as apposed to a recurve or long bow. thanks for the post pastor
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Old 11-28-2006 | 02:57 PM
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I don't want to have to pull the arrows out of a 3D target if the bow shoots 350! Need a towtruck!
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Old 11-28-2006 | 03:14 PM
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see ,the thing is mike with a 32 inch draw mod custom made from bowtech you could take the bk and shoot 370 fps and just pass through the target.Problem solved
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Old 11-29-2006 | 09:18 AM
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ORIGINAL: GregH

Last I knew, most of the big name 3-d orgs,except IBO, were all using a speed limit. 280 fps + or - 3% = 288fps. It was designed to allow the short draw length archers to compete with the long draw guys. Not sure if this has changed. Usually along with increased speed comes some negatives. Noise, vibration and excessive wear and tear on parts.
As far as I know, ASA and IBO are the only major 3D groups, NFAA/NAA and Reading Trail shoot all host them, but they are marked yardage where speed isn't nearly as important. IBO does have a limit, just a different one than ASA. The problem is there is little difference in drop from 280-300 when you restrict the distance of the shot. There is some, but its minimal. The guys who win the big shoots shoot 280 in both events. You can't equalize totally, a longer draw shooter will shoot a fatter arrow at lower draw weight to stay at 280 so he still has an advantage.

Back to the topic, you can play with the cam to make it faster, but in general the faster you make the cam by building to peak weight faster and lower let-off or VERY narrow valley, this makes the bow less pleasant to draw, hold and shoot.

Also the higher speeds, I feel, are beating on the targets and we are blowing through targets faster and faster than in the past.

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