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hardcorehunter 11-24-2006 10:16 AM

Cheap heat for your Archery shop or home
 
Guys, I just installed a 50,000 BTU corn stove in mygreat room and to say that I am impressed is an understatement. This thing cranks out the heat and is WAY cheaper to run than natural gas or propane . It is a multi-fuel and will run on corn, wood pellets, cherry pits, or soybeans. Buell hunter ,this would work great for your archery shop or any of you other business owners or homeowners. The stove puts out carbon dioxide instead of carbon monoxide. It only has to be 4" from a wall. The metal on the wall behind the stove is for decor only and is not required for the stove. The back of the stove remains cold and you can see that a curtain is right beside the stove. These are way easier to vent than a woodburner too. A wood burner was going to make my homeowners insurance go up $200 a year and the corn stove doesn't. This is so easy compared to cutting and splitting wood. These also burn so efficiently that there is very little ash. I mix 3 parts corn to 1 part wood pellets. This is the hopper in the3rd picture that is at the top of the stove at the rear of it. It holds 60# of corn. My wife had this antique wash basin that we put next to the stove. The left side holds corn and the right holds the wood pellets.


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Finch 11-24-2006 10:24 AM

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Thats pretty neat HC, a waste of good corn but pretty neat.:D

BTW: Nice looking setup ya got there.

hardcorehunter 11-24-2006 10:34 AM

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Thanks ducsauce. Pretty ironic how history repeats itself. My grandparents used to heat their home with corn and corncobs years back. I had to do something; my heating bills have been $600-$800 per month the last couple of years. I have a huge6 bedroomhome. Right now the weather is mild and this stove heats it easy at a lower heat setting. When it is real cold I am sure it won't be able to keep up though. We plan on adding another next year at the opposite end of the home and be free from the gas company.

MichaelT. 11-24-2006 10:42 AM

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Hey HCH, What happens if you use persimmon or Apple corn? Can you use your house as one big deer attractor?

MountainHunter 11-24-2006 11:01 AM

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HCH, I don't see the venting. How does that work?

hardcorehunter 11-24-2006 11:01 AM

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LOL!! Your on to something MichaelT. Put a smaller version in my Double Bull blind and lure them in.

hardcorehunter 11-24-2006 11:16 AM

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MH, right out the back through the wall and up 3' on the outside of the home. It is vented with 3'' stainless double wall. I bought the optional fresh air intake kit to make it run more efficiently. It is the metal flex hose you see on the left.




Finch 11-24-2006 11:42 AM

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$600-800 heating bills. WOW!

I think I would use corn too. That is outrageous.

SteveBNy 11-24-2006 11:50 AM

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Thats a USStove model 6039. I rep for them. It will burn straight corn just fine as well - just need to fine tune your air/fuel mix.

Same company has a 100,000 btu add on hot air furnace if the stove isn't enough in the colder weather.

Steve

Grandviewer 11-24-2006 11:58 AM

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Question how long does 60# of corn/wood last you before you have to fill the hopper up? Or how long does 100# of corn last you now in mild weather?

SteveBNy 11-24-2006 12:16 PM

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One lb of corn has about 8,200 btu's depending on its moisture content. Stove burns between 1 1/2 to 6 lbs per hour. Most will average less then 3 lbs/hr depending on your heating needs.

Steve

hardcorehunter 11-24-2006 12:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: SteveBNy

Thats a USStove model 6039. I rep for them. It will burn straight corn just fine as well - just need to fine tune your air/fuel mix.

Same company has a 100,000 btu add on hot air furnace if the stove isn't enough in the colder weather.

Steve
Bingo!!

hardcorehunter 11-24-2006 12:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: SteveBNy

One lb of corn has about 8,200 btu's depending on its moisture content. Stove burns between 1 1/2 to 6 lbs per hour. Most will average less then 3 lbs/hr depending on your heating needs.

Steve
My corn tested at 11.5% moisture and I am still putting a cup of oyster shell to a 5 gallon bucket. Do you feel this is neccessary Steve? My buddy has had one fora year and this is how he runs his. Is the stove going to operate fine automatically with only corn or is this adjusting that a tech does?

terbzz 11-24-2006 01:48 PM

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we have one of those two it is a lot cheaper than gas

MountainHunter 11-24-2006 02:03 PM

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Thanks, HCH.A couplemore followup Q's:
(1) can it burn just wood?
(2) Does the burn rate vary depending on whether you're burning just corn, just wood, or a mix?
3) Does the top get hot enough to use to cook (or at least boil water for coffee/tea?

Looks like an awesome piece of equipment for the house/cabin!

SteveBNy 11-24-2006 03:31 PM

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11.5 is great. Oyster shell does help - some corn is starchier and needs it more to keep clinkering on the agitator down. You can try cutting back a little and see if it effects clinkering.

If yours is the newer model with the air slide under the door, tuning is easy. Most want to give too much air - flame should be lazier then a pellet stove.

Steve

hardcorehunter 11-24-2006 05:57 PM

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Thanks Steve; Mountainhunter,you can run just wood pellets in you choose.Wood pellets can burn at a lower setting than corn.Corn requires a hotter fire than wood to burn efficiently. No, you are not going to cook food on it or boil water. All of the heat is coming out of the heat exchanger via of a blower. The stove itself does not get all that hot on top. You could definately burn yourself on the glass door though.

ia buck 11-24-2006 08:00 PM

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GOOD JOB GRASS HOPPER.

LOOKS GOOD IN YOUR HOUSE. I DONT HAVE THE AIR INTAKE ON MINE IN MY SHOP.
I NEED TO ADD THAT SO IT WILL BURN CLEANER.

WE NEED TO GO UP RIVER AGAIN.

I WILL BE GLAD TO HELP WITH THE VIDEO ON TREE STANDS SINCE I HAVE THE SUMMIT OPEN SHOT CLIMMER.

IL BE IN MY STAND ALL WEEKEND.

hardcorehunter 11-24-2006 08:38 PM

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ia buck; good luck this weekend. Whack a big one buddy.

spudrow 11-24-2006 09:19 PM

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Thatseems like it works great, although I must say if I had $800 fuel bills I'd be drinking that corn instead of burning it ;)!!!!

ia buck 11-25-2006 06:55 AM

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HCH?
HOW CLEAN IS IT BURNING WITH THE CORN?
I HAVE TO CLEAN MINE OUTEVERY DAYWHEN BURNING CORN.
JUST THINKING IT SHOULD BURN CLEANER WITH THE FRESH AIR.CHAMBER HOOKED UP?

hardcorehunter 11-25-2006 07:08 AM

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I wouldn't have to clean it out daily but we have just let it burn out on its' own and we clean it before we fire it back up. My ash pan in the bottom has approx 2 cups of ash in it and most of it looks like oyster shell. We use a shop vac on the inside of the stove with what doesn't drop to the ash pan. Buddy, this stove is great!!!! Our house has never been so warm. I am off to the coop to get more corn. I have run 3 1/2 bushels through it in the last 2 1/2 days. We'll see how she does next week with the cold weather moving in.

BowHunterFett 11-26-2006 06:20 AM

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We have a two story house, and we put a cornstove in our basement before last winter, it is great, running on #2 of the 5 settings, our house is 71 degrees when it is 30 outside. It burns less than a bushel a day. We clean out our pot every three days, but we don't put the fire out, we just knock it loose and tip it so the burning corn falls back in the pot, no heat loss and struggling to start the corn. And as far as the earlier menchoned "waste" of good corn, how is that a waste, it is $$ in the pockets of the farmers, and that is key. I would love to have one in my hunting shack, but I would be "well done" in a short time. Keep Burning that gold!

Campo 11-26-2006 07:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: Grandviewer

Question how long does 60# of corn/wood last you before you have to fill the hopper up? Or how long does 100# of corn last you now in mild weather?
I was wondering the same thing.

hardcorehunter 11-26-2006 07:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: Campo


ORIGINAL: Grandviewer

Question how long does 60# of corn/wood last you before you have to fill the hopper up? Or how long does 100# of corn last you now in mild weather?
I was wondering the same thing.
I am using a bushel to a bushel and a halfin a 24 hr perod with the stove on medium. I think a bushel weighs somewhere near 60#?? With the stove cranking I am running 120# through it in 24 hrs.

hardcorehunter 11-26-2006 08:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: BowHunterFett

We have a two story house, and we put a cornstove in our basement before last winter, it is great, running on #2 of the 5 settings, our house is 71 degrees when it is 30 outside. It burns less than a bushel a day. We clean out our pot every three days, but we don't put the fire out, we just knock it loose and tip it so the burning corn falls back in the pot, no heat loss and struggling to start the corn. And as far as the earlier menchoned "waste" of good corn, how is that a waste, it is $$ in the pockets of the farmers, and that is key. I would love to have one in my hunting shack, but I would be "well done" in a short time. Keep Burning that gold!
Exactly. Welcome to the forum fellow Iowawegion. BTW; remember when talking to other guys on here; there are no deer in IA and the ones that are here are all small and have chronic wasting disease, warty growths, and tumors.;)

hardcorehunter 11-26-2006 08:04 AM

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BTW; this antique wash basin is sweet for storing the grain, pellets, and mixing the two. This is so easy. I am glad I didn't go with a wood burner. I plan on buying a small grain wagon and putting this in my barn. These can be had very cheap as farmers use semi's now and huge grain wagons and these little ones are obsolete to them.

SteveBNy 11-26-2006 08:19 AM

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52 to 54 lbs per bushel.

Steve

Howler 11-26-2006 10:03 AM

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HCH, is your house old, real big, or poorly insulated, or is the price of natural gas that dang high?
I am shocked at your stated "$600-$800"/month heating bill. I'm on propane, and will be having $400 worth put in next week, and that will last me through the winter(will get my tank upto about 55% of full. I use a wood burner in my basement, and will burn about 1.5 cord of hardwood in a winter.
I am just shocked that it is costing anyone 600-800 a month to heat thier house!!
Too bad the price of corn is higher this fall, for you that is. Farmers are liking it though!
How much corn do you get when you get it from the co-op and how do you store it, or do you buy it in bags?

BowHunterFett 11-26-2006 10:11 AM

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Well thanks. I haven't seen a deer in years;)Do you use a screening device of some sort to clean your corn, or does it come pretty clean from where you get it? We have a little box we pour ours through, it has different size chicken wire in it that gets all the fines out, makes a difference, alot cleaner without the bee wings in there. We have an old deep freeze we store our corn in, works great, keeps it nice and dry.

BowHunterFett 11-26-2006 10:38 AM

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Where did you get that corn burner at?

hardcorehunter 11-26-2006 11:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: Howler

HCH, is your house old, real big, or poorly insulated, or is the price of natural gas that dang high?
I am shocked at your stated "$600-$800"/month heating bill. I'm on propane, and will be having $400 worth put in next week, and that will last me through the winter(will get my tank upto about 55% of full. I use a wood burner in my basement, and will burn about 1.5 cord of hardwood in a winter.
I am just shocked that it is costing anyone 600-800 a month to heat thier house!!
Too bad the price of corn is higher this fall, for you that is. Farmers are liking it though!
How much corn do you get when you get it from the co-op and how do you store it, or do you buy it in bags?
Built in 1935; 4200 sq ft, 13 rooms, 6-7 bedroom.Blown in insulation in the walls. Attic is insulated. Original windows. Natural gas pricehas gone through the roof just like gas for our cars has.I am just puttingthe cornin 55 gallon trash cans untilI get time to go out and buy a grain wagon.

hardcorehunter 11-26-2006 11:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: BowHunterFett

Well thanks. I haven't seen a deer in years;)Do you use a screening device of some sort to clean your corn, or does it come pretty clean from where you get it? We have a little box we pour ours through, it has different size chicken wire in it that gets all the fines out, makes a difference, alot cleaner without the bee wings in there. We have an old deep freeze we store our corn in, works great, keeps it nice and dry.
Comes clean.I think that if it needed cleaned another method would be to pour it from one bucket to a another with a fan btween them blowing any chaff away. I bought the stove at Litzel Lumber in Ames. Orshelins and Thiesens sales the same model.

ShadowAce 11-26-2006 02:27 PM

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How do the mice like your new fuel?;):D

hardcorehunter 11-26-2006 02:42 PM

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I own a pest control business; they know better.;)


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