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Rob/PA Bowyer 11-21-2006 05:16 PM

RE: When is it to dark to take a shot?
 
When you cannot ethically make a clean kill.

What's legal isn't necessarily ethical and what is illegal isn't necessarily unethical.

mobow 11-21-2006 05:21 PM

RE: When is it to dark to take a shot?
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

When you cannot ethically make a clean kill.

What's legal isn't necessarily ethical and what is illegal isn't necessarily unethical.
True, but doesn't being ILLEGAL make it UNETHICAL? I know what you are saying though, and you're right.

davidmil 11-21-2006 06:26 PM

RE: When is it to dark to take a shot?
 

and what is illegal isn't necessarily unethical.
Really???? I thought illegal was illegal and we should therefore avoid it or work to change the laws, not use our own idea of what's right or wrong. From a hunters stand point and to do the right thing, I'd say illegal is never ethical.

farmcntry 11-21-2006 06:31 PM

RE: When is it to dark to take a shot?
 
30 min past sunset is the final legal shooting hours here and you can see your pins really well as well as your target.
No, I wouldn't take that shot.

Kelly/KY 11-21-2006 06:43 PM

RE: When is it to dark to take a shot?
 
KS..I didn't mean to seem accusatory, I was using "you" in general, meaning any of us. Ethically, if you feel it's too late and it's low light, then it's too late. Legally, if the state says 30 minute after sunset, then that's legal, although in my opinion and most parts of the countrythat's way too late to shoot.

How did I get on opposites side of this one...I'm usually Switzerland...neutral I tell you.

Rob/PA Bowyer 11-21-2006 06:44 PM

RE: When is it to dark to take a shot?
 

ORIGINAL: davidmil


and what is illegal isn't necessarily unethical.
Really???? I thought illegal was illegal and we should therefore avoid it or work to change the laws, not use our own idea of what's right or wrong. From a hunters stand point and to do the right thing, I'd say illegal is never ethical.
So if a deer you legally shot runs onto your neighbors posted property and you can actually see it but are not allowed to enter it, you'd let it rot?

It'd be illegal for you to enter the property there for unethical?...I THINK NOT, The ETHICAL thing to do is recover the animal, not let it lay.

If you found a paralyzed deer, would you dispatch it, it'd be illegal but in my mind, very ethical....

Calm me unethical all you want, I'll do the right thing when it's not necessarily legal.

farmcntry 11-21-2006 06:45 PM

RE: When is it to dark to take a shot?
 
ETHICS=deciding for YOURSELF what is right or wrong.

Rob/PA Bowyer 11-21-2006 06:48 PM

RE: When is it to dark to take a shot?
 

Original Davidmil, I took shots later than anyone should.
Illegal and Unethical?


Original Davidmil, I no longer check to see when sunset or sunrise are. I now go by the rule of, if I can't see my pins clearly it's time to call it quits.
Shooting times end long before you cannot see your pins. Illegal and Unethical?

davidmil 11-21-2006 09:11 PM

RE: When is it to dark to take a shot?
 
Depends on where you hunt. I'm a deep woods hunter. Legal shooting hours go way beyond what I call good light to see my pins. The questionwasn't about wounded animals etc. It was about how late to shoot. You want to throw in all sorts of off the cuff exceptions I can throw in the Bible says thou shalt not kill. Tell me you wouldn't go to war if called. Dispatching a wounded animal is one thing(not in the original question). Shooting after legal light is quite another. One is mercy killing. The other is macho killing. The law regards them as the same, illegal. IF I were to have a mercy killing you'd never know about it. Those who say they have one after hours make it a Macho killing. The simple fact you're still hunting after hours and in the stand is usually illegal and unethical or whatever you choose to call it. Sunset today in Baltimore was 4:48, in Boonville, NY where I hunt a lot it was 4:32. You may beable to see at 10 minutes after 5 in Booneville, but you're illegal. If you choose to have either a macho or mercy killing after hours you best be ready to pay the fine because you're breaking the law. Don't come in here looking for an Attaboy for shooting after hours because you felt it was your duty. I will dispatch a wounded animal in a heart beat and tag it, but not after dark.

walters444hunt 11-21-2006 09:20 PM

RE: When is it to dark to take a shot?
 
SOAP THATS THE WRONG ANSWER FOR A 17 YEAR OLD WANTING T HUNT GOOD LAND


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