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Will the rut start early because of weather?
10-12-2006, 03:36 PM
#21
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RE: Will the rut start early because of weather?
Phototropism (sp) - when daylight timeis shorter than dark.
A doe's gestation period is 160 days. Count back 160 from the begining of spring. It can vary by a week or two either way but normally the rut kicks in near or around Nov. 10 in the Ohio valley.
Bucks will continue to breed does every 30 days up till March providing the doe's have not been bred up to that point. Normally a small percentage of does will begin cycling near the 2rd week of Sept. The majority of the doe's coming into heat will be near or around the 2nd week of Nov.
That is whatis called the peak rut.
A doe's gestation period is 160 days. Count back 160 from the begining of spring. It can vary by a week or two either way but normally the rut kicks in near or around Nov. 10 in the Ohio valley.
Bucks will continue to breed does every 30 days up till March providing the doe's have not been bred up to that point. Normally a small percentage of does will begin cycling near the 2rd week of Sept. The majority of the doe's coming into heat will be near or around the 2nd week of Nov.
That is whatis called the peak rut.
10-12-2006, 03:39 PM
#22
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Will the rut start early because of weather?
As has been stated...A bucks testosterone level raises due to the days being shorter...They start showing agressive behavior because of this....BUT...
A doe will not come into heat until a certain time period (about 5 months if my memory is correct) after dropping her fawns...This insures that she does not give birth too early in the spring, so they all have a good food supply....
So..."the rut"....Do you define it as soon as bucks start to show agressive behavior or...
Only when a doe goes into heat and can concieve???
btw...a does or bucks rear hocks turn black when their hormones are "right"...After a doe has been bred and is pregnant...Hers turn back white....While a buck will move on to find another....I have seen does with black hocks as early as September, here in NC....And as late as January...this is when most of the doe fawns (this year's crop) get bred...They also have a higher % (I think its 60%) of buck fawns.
A doe will not come into heat until a certain time period (about 5 months if my memory is correct) after dropping her fawns...This insures that she does not give birth too early in the spring, so they all have a good food supply....
So..."the rut"....Do you define it as soon as bucks start to show agressive behavior or...
Only when a doe goes into heat and can concieve???
btw...a does or bucks rear hocks turn black when their hormones are "right"...After a doe has been bred and is pregnant...Hers turn back white....While a buck will move on to find another....I have seen does with black hocks as early as September, here in NC....And as late as January...this is when most of the doe fawns (this year's crop) get bred...They also have a higher % (I think its 60%) of buck fawns.
10-12-2006, 03:51 PM
#23
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Eureka, MO
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RE: Will the rut start early because of weather?
ORIGINAL: wpmcdaniel
Here in SC, I've already seen SOME rut activity. Also a buddy of mine killed a buck that was in rut.
Here in SC, I've already seen SOME rut activity. Also a buddy of mine killed a buck that was in rut.
10-12-2006, 04:04 PM
#24
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RE: Will the rut start early because of weather?
Rut begins when the major percentage of the does come into heat.
Buck's testosterone level will rise as they go into hard rack. A buck will have the urge to breed any time of the year. The testosterone level dictates his potency. I've seen our bucks trying to "corn-hole" each other at various time of the year. When they get the urge, they'll try to mount each other if they can.
The buck's tarsal glands darken because the buck piss's down his legs. A doe's hocks will darken as well while she comes into hear. She'll dribble and urinate frequently as well. It normally takes one day to come into heat, one day in heat, and one day going out of heat.
Buck's testosterone level will rise as they go into hard rack. A buck will have the urge to breed any time of the year. The testosterone level dictates his potency. I've seen our bucks trying to "corn-hole" each other at various time of the year. When they get the urge, they'll try to mount each other if they can.
The buck's tarsal glands darken because the buck piss's down his legs. A doe's hocks will darken as well while she comes into hear. She'll dribble and urinate frequently as well. It normally takes one day to come into heat, one day in heat, and one day going out of heat.
ORIGINAL: nchawkeye
As has been stated...A bucks testosterone level raises due to the days being shorter...They start showing agressive behavior because of this....BUT...
A doe will not come into heat until a certain time period (about 5 months if my memory is correct) after dropping her fawns...This insures that she does not give birth too early in the spring, so they all have a good food supply....
So..."the rut"....Do you define it as soon as bucks start to show agressive behavior or...
Only when a doe goes into heat and can concieve???
btw...a does or bucks rear hocks turn black when their hormones are "right"...After a doe has been bred and is pregnant...Hers turn back white....While a buck will move on to find another....I have seen does with black hocks as early as September, here in NC....And as late as January...this is when most of the doe fawns (this year's crop) get bred...They also have a higher % (I think its 60%) of buck fawns.
As has been stated...A bucks testosterone level raises due to the days being shorter...They start showing agressive behavior because of this....BUT...
A doe will not come into heat until a certain time period (about 5 months if my memory is correct) after dropping her fawns...This insures that she does not give birth too early in the spring, so they all have a good food supply....
So..."the rut"....Do you define it as soon as bucks start to show agressive behavior or...
Only when a doe goes into heat and can concieve???
btw...a does or bucks rear hocks turn black when their hormones are "right"...After a doe has been bred and is pregnant...Hers turn back white....While a buck will move on to find another....I have seen does with black hocks as early as September, here in NC....And as late as January...this is when most of the doe fawns (this year's crop) get bred...They also have a higher % (I think its 60%) of buck fawns.
10-12-2006, 04:59 PM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Jacksonville, IL/ Huntington, WV
Posts: 1,573
RE: Will the rut start early because of weather?
I'm not sure why people would think that the weather this year would cause an early rut. Its not like it has been any colder than in the past. I live in central IL. and yes it was cool last night and supposed to be about 30tonight. However, it was 90 degrees 3 days ago. It has by no means been unseasonably cold. However, like someone else said the rut is brought on by the amount of light that is present during the day.
10-12-2006, 05:09 PM
#27
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
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RE: Will the rut start early because of weather?
From Ill I know you consider a nice buck to be?
I always see young deer running around this time of year.
Hey if a doe came into estrus early you never know.
I always see young deer running around this time of year.
Hey if a doe came into estrus early you never know.
10-12-2006, 07:15 PM
#28
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Northeastern Illinois
Posts: 205
RE: Will the rut start early because of weather?
ORIGINAL: shed33
Campo I agree.
Now daylightobservations/evidence by us hunters..of deer rutting behavior can be swayed by weather conditions..simply put the photoperiod triggers doe estrus annually, weatherconditions on the other handgets them on their feet during daylight hours for us hunters to witness...many times do to poor hunting weather conditions, deer are rutting like crazy..just after dark...
Does the MOON light affect the photoperiod (amount of light in a day) enough to pull the rut or trigger it ealier or later... Debate that until the end of time... Charlie A... does a lot of research on this..
Campo I agree.
Now daylightobservations/evidence by us hunters..of deer rutting behavior can be swayed by weather conditions..simply put the photoperiod triggers doe estrus annually, weatherconditions on the other handgets them on their feet during daylight hours for us hunters to witness...many times do to poor hunting weather conditions, deer are rutting like crazy..just after dark...
Does the MOON light affect the photoperiod (amount of light in a day) enough to pull the rut or trigger it ealier or later... Debate that until the end of time... Charlie A... does a lot of research on this..
My thoughts exactly!!!!
10-12-2006, 07:47 PM
#30
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: IOWA/25' UP
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RE: Will the rut start early because of weather?
ORIGINAL: Campo
The rut is dependant on the photoperiod, or the amount of light that reaches a deers eyes. It has nothing to do with the weather.
The rut will be pretty close to the same time as last year.
The rut is dependant on the photoperiod, or the amount of light that reaches a deers eyes. It has nothing to do with the weather.
The rut will be pretty close to the same time as last year.