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Snook 09-13-2006 06:11 PM

Coyote
 
I captured a picture of a coyote near my bowhunting stand yesterday. First of all, how much will this affect the deer on the property? Secondly, because it is illegal to discharge a gun on this property, can coyotes be erradicated using a bow? Or would it be better to trap them. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks

Higgy15jh 09-13-2006 06:14 PM

RE: Coyote
 
Shoot him with a bow..itll make the deer think twice about comin to your area..good luck

hoytarcher1 09-13-2006 06:16 PM

RE: Coyote
 
Shoot 'em with a bow!

pjhunts 09-13-2006 06:31 PM

RE: Coyote
 
deer are exposed to coyotes everyday. They won't generally affect there movements. The area I live in has a very high number of coyotes and I've witnessed 3 chases where the lead coyote was within feet of catchingthe deer. The deer will return after the coyote(s) move through. It just takes them a little while to relax. I wouldn't worry about the coyote, other hunters walking around will affect them more. I've also shot several coyotes with my bow

Matt/TN 09-13-2006 06:48 PM

RE: Coyote
 
yeah shoot him, i just unloaded on one with my .308 two days ago in the field beside my house, i dont like th things,fortunately we dont have too many.I believe preator hunting here is a year around thing

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-13-2006 06:54 PM

RE: Coyote
 
Coyote with a bow? Absolutely, take a call with you to the tree.





Absolutely!

Howler 09-13-2006 07:19 PM

RE: Coyote
 

can coyotes be erradicated using a bow?
Simple answer is NO! You can kill one every now and then with a bow, but you'll never erradicate them with bows!! Trapping/snaring is, has been, and always will be the most effective method of removing coyotes. Although arieal gunning is pretty effective in wide open country and is still used to this day.
The Verminators have a new dvd out called "Bowmania", it's all predator calling with bows!! Some great footage! Killing a coyote from a tree standwith a bow is one thing, but sitting on the ground and killing "called" coyotes is very challenging!

hoytarcher1 09-13-2006 07:24 PM

RE: Coyote
 
Good lookin Coyote Rob.

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-13-2006 07:28 PM

RE: Coyote
 

ORIGINAL: Howler


can coyotes be erradicated using a bow?
Simple answer is NO! You can kill one every now and then with a bow, but you'll never erradicate them with bows!! Trapping/snaring is, has been, and always will be the most effective method of removing coyotes. Although arieal gunning is pretty effective in wide open country and is still used to this day.
The Verminators have a new dvd out called "Bowmania", it's all predator calling with bows!! Some great footage! Killing a coyote from a tree standwith a bow is one thing, but sitting on the ground and killing "called" coyotes is very challenging!
Your right, they cannot be eradicated with a bow unless someone lives and dies trying and not even then. Actually they claim they cannot be eradicated period regardless of method. I forget where, WV, VA, KS or somewhere they did a study, even if your lucky enough to take 50 % of the population, they breed it back regulating their own. Once established, they are permanante.

ps, thank you hoytarcher1, your fogiven..LOL ;) :D

Higgy15jh 09-13-2006 07:31 PM

RE: Coyote
 
When he said erradicated i dont think he meant kill them till extention but more of able to killing one with a bow..

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-13-2006 07:56 PM

RE: Coyote
 

ORIGINAL: Higgy15jh

When he said erradicated i dont think he meant kill them till extention but more of able to killing one with a bow..
Agreed, thus my picture post.

nutter 09-13-2006 08:15 PM

RE: Coyote
 
i dont know how true this is...i heard that the more pressure put on yotes, the more/faster they breed....probably the smartest animal in PA woods!!

davidmil 09-13-2006 08:42 PM

RE: Coyote
 
Coyotes cover a lot of ground and may not be near that stand again for days or weeks, unless of course you're near their den and then you got problems. Deer encounter them every day. They learn to live with them and stay out of the way, especially at this time of year with young still tagging along. Heck, you can't erradicate coyotes with firearms. You can kill one now and then but it's tough with a bow. They have great eyesite and quickly pick off movement to draw a deer would never see. My brothers gang shot 92 three years ago. Something like 75 this year. There will be lots more around next year.

Snook 09-13-2006 08:54 PM

RE: Coyote
 
Great responses. Rob, great yote. Hopefully I at least stick that mangy dog that has shown up on my game camera. Thanks!

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-13-2006 08:55 PM

RE: Coyote
 
David's right.

I'm recalling an incident I watch last year. I had a yote on the field in front of me several nights in one week. I thought it was a little female. Anyway, she'd be mousing in the field. One night I watch her coming down the field access road, a young buck walked the field. They came face to face at 10 yards. They had a stare down, the buck leaped away a few leaps, the coyote realized there was no chance in hell and the buck looked back, wagged it's tail and calmed down and went about his business, the coyote too never looked back.

They share the same woods, deer know when they are in danger from them. They are more likely to avoid an area because of a domestic dog then they will from frequent coyotes.

nutter 09-13-2006 09:06 PM

RE: Coyote
 
its not the singles you have to worry about, its the packs of 4 or more that will scare the deer. Plus yotes tend to go after yearlings, easy kills.

gzg38b 09-13-2006 09:16 PM

RE: Coyote
 
I feel guilty when I kill something and don't eat it. However there's no way I'm eating dog meat. It would be an awesome trophy and a cool mountbut unless you guys have some great dog meat recipes count me out. Maybe I'll check with the Chinese restaurant on the corner. A little rice, some sweet and sour sauce. Now we're talking.

nebraskabuckhunter 09-13-2006 09:24 PM

RE: Coyote
 
well it is possible to get one with a bow but would be quite a challenge i would try to trap and i think you would have better luck, predator season is year round, good luck tryin to get him with the bow that would be an awesome trophy.

MountainHunter 09-13-2006 11:52 PM

RE: Coyote
 
I read or saw something recently that said that coyotes don't actually run in packs, but are solitary animals that sometimes run in small family groups of a parent and one to 4 young. When the young get full grown, they go off on thier own.

huntingson 09-14-2006 05:28 AM

RE: Coyote
 
Getting one with a bow is tough. They never seem to stop, and they are so quiet by the time you hear them they are on you and gone. I have seen 5 from the deer stand and about 30 while stalking elk, but I have yet to loose an arrow at one. If you really want that coyote gone, I would say trap. However, if you do get one with a bow it is an awesome trophy IMO. So, congrats Rob and that is a beautiful mount.

kenman 09-14-2006 05:38 AM

RE: Coyote
 
Like Rob, I have seen deer and coyotes come face to face in a field. In my case the doe actually chased the coyote away. Now, if there were deep snow I'm thinking the doe wouldn't stand a chance. I've seen a doe in the middle of the winter with a the top of a hind quarter pretty much eaten awayand she was still on her feet, in shock, but still mobile.



Rob/PA Bowyer 09-14-2006 06:04 AM

RE: Coyote
 
Drury's have on film a monster buck being pushed by two yotes out of a field into a ravine where a 3rd yote was waiting, when the buck hit the gut of the ravine, the 3 were on him and tore him apart.

Thanks all about my yote.

Snook 09-16-2006 07:06 AM

RE: Coyote
 
Update on the yote. I went out and did some scouting for a possible ambush point and found the den where he is holed up in. Should I set up an ambush point near the den or simply set a trap right there and hope he takes to the trap? I sure would love to stick an arrow in that mangy dog, though.

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-16-2006 08:44 AM

RE: Coyote
 
I've heard, (I don't know) that once a coyote feels his den has been found, ie human scent, they will move on. Can anyone elaborate on this?

RDHunter 09-16-2006 09:32 AM

RE: Coyote
 
Heck yea shoot that s.. of a b..... and take him out I would.

mlo3135127 09-16-2006 05:25 PM

RE: Coyote
 

I've heard, (I don't know) that once a coyote feels his den has been found, ie human scent, they will move on. Can anyone elaborate on this?

I have had this happen several times while setting a scouting camera neara den entrance. A few pictures of a coyote than there are cobwebs over the entrance.
I have also seen deer bothering coyotes a few times.


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