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BTBowhunter 08-27-2006 06:11 AM

Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
I've been using cabon clothes for over 10 years now and swear by the stuff. The first I had was first generation Scentlok which I replaced about 5 years ago with Scent Blocker. I've not yet noticed any diminished effectiveness but am beginning to wonder if it's time to replace. We all know this stuff aint cheap but when it comes to my bowhunting, I'll always find a way to kep my equipment in the best shape.

I am in my carbon clothes probably 30-40 days per year for at least a few hours and many days all day so it's getting used and washed regularly.
Just wondering how long before you guys generally replace your carbon?

Dr Andy 08-27-2006 06:27 AM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
Sounds like a good question for the manufacturer. Maybe you should e-mail em

nodog 08-27-2006 08:24 AM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
Washing is a killer.

jmbuckhunter 08-27-2006 08:31 AM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
I use mine a lot also. I don't wash it very often but do send it through the drier regularly to reactivate. I stuff it in a pillow case so it doesn't rub thefinish off while tumbling around. I have had my latest outfit for 4 years and it seems to be in great shape.

davidmil 08-27-2006 08:41 AM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
Once again I typed a perfectly composed paragraph explaining what fatty acids, oils and perspiration do to your suit. Once again this board timed out the thing before it posted. The short version, Your suit is worn out. 2 to 3 years is about the best you can expect from these things with moderate to heavy hunting. Home dryer temperatures will NOT release these non volitile substances from your carbon. Care must be taken at all times to keep down contamination. With each use more and more non-volitile substance are introduced that deteriorate performance. Sorry for the short version. The last post was worthy of a double Kudo deer head.

atlasman 08-27-2006 09:00 AM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
In all likelihood it was probably "used up" by the time you got it home from the store. As David said your home dryer will not remove adsorbed material from carbon so it pretty much amounts to very expensive camo.

I have often wondered how or why people believe that air/odor from their body flows out through their jacket like they show in those diagrams with the arrows rolling over the carbon molecules physics tends to get in the way of that theory. Air and all the scent that goes with it will pass out the escape route of LEAST resistence. This fact can be proven with ANY jacket you have......carbon or not. Put a piece of garlic or an onion or any smelly thing inside the coat between your chest and the jacket and bend over and try to smell it through the jacket............then pull the jacket slightly away from your body and "fluff" it a little and get a whiff of what comes out the neck opening. The only way a garment could force air through itself would be in an airtight seal.

It's time to replace your carbon suit alright.............the question is with what??

VA HEAD HUNTER 08-27-2006 09:03 AM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
YEP 3 years of regular hunting and drying and its a wrap. time to replace.

Germ 08-27-2006 09:07 AM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
X-Scents is a great product, no carbon, no drying.

Here is the web site

http://www.xscent.com/

I am sure the critics(who do not even use it) will come out.

BTBowhunter 08-27-2006 02:30 PM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
I was thinking I was on borrowed time although I didnt get busted once last year. I washed it only when it really got muddy or bloody and then only with carbon wash and treated it in the dryer often.I intended to ask the manufacturerer but was wondering what the consensus was among the members here.

Carbon isnt a cure all but I've only been busted a few times since I started using it. Every time, I could definitely I'd shortcut something. you still gotta be clean clean cleanand stay away from fido, household odors, the gas pump etc etc

BTBowhunter 08-28-2006 01:47 PM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
Just got a response from Robinson Labs. they say 5-7 years with proper care. Based on how much I use the stuff, I think it's time to buy a new set.

nodog 08-28-2006 03:42 PM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
I just add another layer.:D

Scent-Lok G.Designer 08-28-2006 03:50 PM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
We will say about the same. It really has to do with how much you wash it. You can pretty much dry it until your heart's content without any real degradition to the fabric. The washer, and specifically the soap, takes its toll on the glues we, and Blocker, use. We do all of our testing out to 20 washings and after that 20-25 begin to see a degradation in the fabric and amount of carbon being lost in each cycle until hight 20's yeild a garment with very little carbon in it.

shaner72 09-01-2006 02:18 PM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
i killed a 164 inch 14 point non-typical 23 yard DOWNWIND in my seventh year. in year eight i killed a 157 inch 12 pointer @ 8 yards with a no wind hunt. both came from a scent blocker pant and jacket. i also spray fall blend on as well. you cannot do that with scent-lok.

kevin1 09-01-2006 04:10 PM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
Activated carbon clogs no matter what precautions you take , and it does so fairly quickly , ask anyone who manufactures or uses the stuff . Your dryer cannot achieve the temperatures required to regenerate the carbon no matter what the manufacturer says , they're lying to you , the suit would be destroyed long before the temp was achieved . Carbon is not forever .

Don't be a all your life .

nodog 09-01-2006 05:24 PM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
Your stepping things up a notch Kev.:D

That sucker thing :D:D:D

Keep up the good fight bro. Daddy needs a new set of scent lok at way below retail.:D

Proff 09-01-2006 08:10 PM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
Well I was gonna stay out of this one, but Kevin jumped in here and told what he knows so I will pass along what was told to me about 3 months ago. Now before I start, let me state that I myself have 3 scent suits. 1 Scentblocker Ultra Lite, 1 Scentblocker Feather Lite, and a Scent Lok Poly Cotton suit. I also have a pair of Scent Lok gloves for each suit and a few pairs of Scent Lok socks. I have always been a scent control freak, long before the carbon suit craze started. Beleive me, I take every step possible to try and remain as scent free as I can, and always have. When the activated carbon craze began, I decided to wait a year or so before dropping big bucks on it, just to see if it was a fad or a legitimate scent control tool. Well, needless to say, I bought into it..... 3 times!!:D
Late Nov. last season brought really bitter cold weather to NW Ohio for a few weeks. I broke out the old Predator bibs and winter jacket and used them instead of my scent suits. Well, I killed a doe at 4 yards from my stand.
I had strted seeing the threads on here by a few guys really questioning the validity of the carbon suits. Their effectiveness, life span, reactivation capabilities etc. I read more and more , and started to question it myself. I am sure alot of you guys remember these threads and posts by the one guy who worked with activated carbon, and in a nutshell, he was saying that hunters are basically getting taken for a ride and are paying alot of hard earned cash for something that isn't as great as it seems ( or as they are being told).
The more and more I thought about it, the more I really started to question if it was really worth the money, because I don't have to tell you guys, the stuff ain't cheap, and Scott Shultz from robinson Labs and the owner of Scent Lok are making some pretty serious sales volumes on the stuff. If they weren't , there wouldn't be so many more different styles and types of suits to fulfill every seasonal change and so many different accessories. Supply and demand at its finest example.!!
I finally came to the conclusion that I was just fine without the carbon stuff, and just continuing what I was presently doing and wearing all my great Predator stuff ( and I have ALOT of it) that just sat in the storage bags in the Rubbermaid containers for the past few years. Honestly, I can't say that the carbon products have made me anymore successful. I have always gotten spitting close to so many deer and have been successful every year and have never had a problem with deer winding me. So to me, all I was doing was spending alot of money on something that I could spend a third of the money on. I was really considering retiring the scent suits ( as I am sure that they are all used up as much as I hunt) and getting all the Predator ready for this season. I just needed a little shove to get me over the decision line. Well, that confirmation shove came from our Environmental, Health and Saftey Coordinator where I work.
This guy is one of those guys that is truly brilliant. He really knows his stuff. One day I was at my desk and he was going over some stuff with me and he saw a few of my magazines laying there. One of them had the heading of a story on the cover about carbon suits. He asked me what it was about. So I told him about the suits and showed him some in the Cabelas catalog, told him about how you take care of them, how you reactivate them etc. He read the article real quick, and then gave me some info. He works with activated carbon all the time for the water and air purification systems for our plant, and actually takes care of it forall 4 of our product line plants for our company. He started of by saying, Please tell me you didn't get suckered into paying that much money for these things!! Well, I told I did, and then he letme have it!!
He said that the companies are not really lying to us, because the suits will do what they say.... for about 10-15 hours of use, then they become a regular hunting jacket. He said that once the fill up with the scent molecules, there isn't a clothes dryer made that could come close to being hot enough to reactivate the carbon. He said that it mayreactivate a few of the pockets on the very outside layer, but they would clog back up almost right away. He said that carbon would also braek down in different areas, leaving spots that would let the scent right through, like a screen. He echoed something that always bothered me.I have always comehome from a hunt and rewashed my clothes to remove my scent from them ( when you have as many suits as I have, you can alternate suits alot). With the carbon stuff, you wear it all day, handle it later, etc, then stuff it in your storage containerto basically soak in the scent that you got on it. That has bothered me forever since I started using them. There is now way, no matter how hard you try, that after walking to stands, hunting all day, etc, that you aren't gonna put some scent on your clothes somehow. Like I said, throw them in the bag 5 or 6 days straight,those babies have to be full of your scent on the outside.
After all the stuff he told me, I made the decision to go back to my old way. And I guarentee you that I will get close to as many deer as before.
If you love your scent suits and have all the confidindencein them, that is great. I am not like some that are on a crusade against Scent Lok and Scent Shield. If people love them and want to use them I think that is great. I felt that way for a few years. I just know that FOR ME, I don't feel that the cost is worth the rewards, because I was already getting the rewars before. I will stick to myproven scent control routine, throw on my beloved Predator, climb a tree have alot more money left over to spend on other things!!!!:D
This is just one man's opinion!

nodog 09-01-2006 09:04 PM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 
Just curious. How much did you pay for the bibs and coat?

atlasman 09-01-2006 09:08 PM

RE: Scent Blocker Scentlok How long does it last?
 

ORIGINAL: Proff

Well I was gonna stay out of this one, but Kevin jumped in here and told what he knows so I will pass along what was told to me about 3 months ago. Now before I start, let me state that I myself have 3 scent suits. 1 Scentblocker Ultra Lite, 1 Scentblocker Feather Lite, and a Scent Lok Poly Cotton suit. I also have a pair of Scent Lok gloves for each suit and a few pairs of Scent Lok socks. I have always been a scent control freak, long before the carbon suit craze started. Beleive me, I take every step possible to try and remain as scent free as I can, and always have. When the activated carbon craze began, I decided to wait a year or so before dropping big bucks on it, just to see if it was a fad or a legitimate scent control tool. Well, needless to say, I bought into it..... 3 times!!:D
Late Nov. last season brought really bitter cold weather to NW Ohio for a few weeks. I broke out the old Predator bibs and winter jacket and used them instead of my scent suits. Well, I killed a doe at 4 yards from my stand.
I had strted seeing the threads on here by a few guys really questioning the validity of the carbon suits. Their effectiveness, life span, reactivation capabilities etc. I read more and more , and started to question it myself. I am sure alot of you guys remember these threads and posts by the one guy who worked with activated carbon, and in a nutshell, he was saying that hunters are basically getting taken for a ride and are paying alot of hard earned cash for something that isn't as great as it seems ( or as they are being told).
The more and more I thought about it, the more I really started to question if it was really worth the money, because I don't have to tell you guys, the stuff ain't cheap, and Scott Shultz from robinson Labs and the owner of Scent Lok are making some pretty serious sales volumes on the stuff. If they weren't , there wouldn't be so many more different styles and types of suits to fulfill every seasonal change and so many different accessories. Supply and demand at its finest example.!!
I finally came to the conclusion that I was just fine without the carbon stuff, and just continuing what I was presently doing and wearing all my great Predator stuff ( and I have ALOT of it) that just sat in the storage bags in the Rubbermaid containers for the past few years. Honestly, I can't say that the carbon products have made me anymore successful. I have always gotten spitting close to so many deer and have been successful every year and have never had a problem with deer winding me. So to me, all I was doing was spending alot of money on something that I could spend a third of the money on. I was really considering retiring the scent suits ( as I am sure that they are all used up as much as I hunt) and getting all the Predator ready for this season. I just needed a little shove to get me over the decision line. Well, that confirmation shove came from our Environmental, Health and Saftey Coordinator where I work.
This guy is one of those guys that is truly brilliant. He really knows his stuff. One day I was at my desk and he was going over some stuff with me and he saw a few of my magazines laying there. One of them had the heading of a story on the cover about carbon suits. He asked me what it was about. So I told him about the suits and showed him some in the Cabelas catalog, told him about how you take care of them, how you reactivate them etc. He read the article real quick, and then gave me some info. He works with activated carbon all the time for the water and air purification systems for our plant, and actually takes care of it forall 4 of our product line plants for our company. He started of by saying, Please tell me you didn't get suckered into paying that much money for these things!! Well, I told I did, and then he letme have it!!
He said that the companies are not really lying to us, because the suits will do what they say.... for about 10-15 hours of use, then they become a regular hunting jacket. He said that once the fill up with the scent molecules, there isn't a clothes dryer made that could come close to being hot enough to reactivate the carbon. He said that it mayreactivate a few of the pockets on the very outside layer, but they would clog back up almost right away. He said that carbon would also braek down in different areas, leaving spots that would let the scent right through, like a screen. He echoed something that always bothered me.I have always comehome from a hunt and rewashed my clothes to remove my scent from them ( when you have as many suits as I have, you can alternate suits alot). With the carbon stuff, you wear it all day, handle it later, etc, then stuff it in your storage containerto basically soak in the scent that you got on it. That has bothered me forever since I started using them. There is now way, no matter how hard you try, that after walking to stands, hunting all day, etc, that you aren't gonna put some scent on your clothes somehow. Like I said, throw them in the bag 5 or 6 days straight,those babies have to be full of your scent on the outside.
After all the stuff he told me, I made the decision to go back to my old way. And I guarentee you that I will get close to as many deer as before.
If you love your scent suits and have all the confidindencein them, that is great. I am not like some that are on a crusade against Scent Lok and Scent Shield. If people love them and want to use them I think that is great. I felt that way for a few years. I just know that FOR ME, I don't feel that the cost is worth the rewards, because I was already getting the rewars before. I will stick to myproven scent control routine, throw on my beloved Predator, climb a tree have alot more money left over to spend on other things!!!!:D
This is just one man's opinion!



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