I don't. That is why I think it's time to ditch the "fair chase" chant.

What about that sounds "fair" to you? (Keep in mind I have the same gear and more)


Same here. So I ask again...........what makes that "fair"? Because there is no fence?

Never a better (or funnier) statement said.

Atlas, you must be getting bored, you haven't gotten on and stirred the pot for quite some time. Now its all built up and ready to blow.

LOOK OUT!

first off, i havent read all of these replies and i'm not going to.

atlasman, unless you only hunt with equipment you make yourself, you're just as hypocritical as what you're complaining about.

Nope.............just the endless parade of trail cam photos brought the thought into my head.



Why? Read what I wrote and tell me what about that scenerio is "fair"



Agreed............and no one said they were. I just don't see how the label "fair chase" fits. Please explain.



Exactly my point..............you can't have it both ways


I disagree...........archery is more difficult then a rifle (in some cases)........but "fair chase"??? Please explain what makes it "fair"

What would YOU consider fair chase? we run em down tackle em and snap thier necks?

You give a lot of guys out there every edge and gadget known and they still couldn't kill an old smart deer. Should we poke out one of the deer's eyes, or tie a 100# weight to its leg to "even" things up?

Heck, everyone has a couple gadgets to tinker with. Undoubtedly there are more than there used to be. But whoa, Atlas, take a breath. You sound like you're accusing the whole hunting community of having everything, using every devious method know to scoundrels to take that critter. I think you're just a little around the bend on this, but that's fine. You do it your way, we'll do it our way and remember...."It's suppose to be fun". Personnally, I don't have cameras, my bow shoots around 255, I do have a rangefinder, I don't bait, I don't have box blinds, towers, food plots, decoys or any of that stuff. I have a couple scent loc suits but haven't worn one in 3 years. In short, I'm just about like most people here. I go out, find a tree, climb up and see what happens. I still have to be still, lob the arrow etc. There's a vast difference from my hunting to that of the caged pets that have been specifically bred with a price tag attached before you even shoot the thing. No sir, that's not hunting and it's not Fair Chase. Don't get confused with your ranting over some new gadgets on the market that MOST of us don't use. Take a breath and read what you wrote. You ranked me and my fellow hunters with the likes of the WHA. I take offense to it and think you're just a little crotchetty today. What's wrong, lose your best flintorcamo loin clothor something?

Agreed...........THAT is what we need to focus our efforts on. Doing something because it is the RIGHT thing to do.........not under the illusion of fairness.

Try to tell someone that doesn't know hunting that it is "fair" when you go out toting that 308...........and imagine that they have seen a deer drive put on. What do you think they would say?



Not at all.............is that where you draw the line?? Inside a fence is not fair but outside is fair?..........I don't see it as that cut and dry. I would even go as far as saying there are hunts that take place every day INSIDE a fence that are more "fair" then some that take place OUTSIDE them.



I'm saying they are all shades of the same color.



Then you really missed the point.

I consider myself a fair chase hunter. I dont use bait such as corn, salt or mineral blocks. I dont shoot a bow that shoots 320 fps. I dont use cameras, or videos equipment. I dont hunt fenced animals. I agree it does get a little old hearing about how fast this bow is or which is better. Big deal on what kind of bow you shoot. Its all personal preference. Its like I better get this bow and try to keep up with the next person. Who cares. I shoot what I shoot, because I like what I shoot. I dont care what kind of camera this person has or doesnt have. I do enjoy looking at the pics of all the animals. Some just go over board.

Atlas, I realize that you're just stating your opinion on the subject and I respect that. I'm not going to flame you for it as we're all entitled to our own opinions.

As it stands, I'm not going to debate the issue with you. We're both too set in our ways for either of us to budge one way or the other. Nothing good will come from the debate, so there is no point in my taking it any further than my original post. We'll wind up going in circles and wasting bandwidth.

Suffice it to say that while I respect your opinion on the issue, I'm going to disagree and leave it at that.