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During my early morning ritual of finding out what's going on in the hunting world I stumbled across this article on National Geographic's website. Looks like the Michigan government is now getting involved in the actualy legality of the WHA.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/08/060816-hunting.html

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I questioned the legality of this practice in the first place. The drugs are not being used for any therapeutic purpose. There may be a lawsuit to stop them.

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Good article.
Funny thathe has only filled 7 of 8 shooter spots.... can't find 8 people in the country who thinks that this is a good idea perhaps??? lol

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I hope they put a stop to this [>:]its hard to believe their would people to sign up for this ,or is it you just have to have a big bank account[:-]

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I hope they stop this clown as well. Even in his own quotes to promote hunting, he degrades the image of hunters on his own. His attempts to find support for this ridiculous tournament are pathetic.

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Awesome.

And you're right, Rob... Farbman sounds more and more stupid every time he opens his mouth.

To have him even intimate that he's even on the periphery of speaking for the hunting community at large makes my stomach turn; I hope the divide between him and us (us being the general hunting community) grows deeper and wider, and he alienates himself to the point where no one thinks of him even being remotely associated with true hunters and what we stand for.

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I posted yesterday about the WHA article in Outdoor Lifes september issue.I have to believe there is going to be significant out cry from their readership! It would behoove us all to log on to Outdoor Life's website and let them know how we feel.One Of OL field editors Michael Hanback is adamently against the WHA and has been very out spoken about it.
It would be excellent if the Michigan state goverment shut him down.
All of HNI's Michigan members should get in the ear of your elected officials,this is an absolute win/win for a politician,they will be a hero in the minds of conservatives and liberals if they help in shutting the WHA down!

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Very, very good point, tsoc... and one which the politicians rarely get to take the opportunity to experience.

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I would only caution though that getting lawmakers to defeat this also opens up the door to how those lawmakers can have input over the rest of the hunting community at a later date. You'd have to make sure that it's not the hunting itself they have any input over, but rather the use of the drugs involved.

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"This week state officials are meeting with WHA representatives to gather information before reaching a verdict, says attorney general spokesperson Rusty Hills."

Anyone else afraid that Farbman is going to try and buy the AG and other state officials off? I mean, we all know Farbman has deep pockets, what do you want to bet that these WHA reps are nothing more than Farbman's accountant and a check book?

I seriously hope that this isn't the case, but I can honestly see it happening.

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Has anyone else noticed that the WHA website doesn't have any reference to darting animals? I just read everything there and didn't see any reference to darting at all?

I also read a small statement by Farbman outlining the competition and it states:

"Competition will be based on HARVEST hunting"

?!?!?!?!

So they quietly backed off the darting and are now after a true shoot and kill tournament format?
Boy doI feel dirty after being over on that site........need to take a shower now.[:o][:'(][:@]:(

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that is great news... farberman and the WHA are really moving in the right direction...

sounds like he listened to the community and is ready to grow the sport!

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I SUPPORT THE WHA, I'M GOING TO SIGNUP FOR THE CONTEST HE HAS! GO WHA!

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i wish i could be one of the hunters competing... have yall seen who is competing?

a navy seal, a pro archer, a texas longhorn, and a pro roper...

and all yall said they wernt real hunters... should be interesting..

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Just because they're professionals doesn't mean they're real hunters. They've sold out. A real hunter wouldn't be associated with the WHA in any way.

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why? how do you know they arnt real hunters? That is the most absurd comment i have heard.

please dont speak for the general hunting community..because it is false

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I'm not speaking for the community as a whole, I was stating my opinion.

They aren't real hunters because they sold out to WHA. They aren't in this to promote our sport, they're in it for the $250,000 prize. Our sport isn't about taking home cash prizes for tranqulizing deer. Our sport is about tradition, its about respecting nature and God's creation, its about something much deeper than shooting an animal and mounting it on our wall.

The WHA is taking that away from the real hunters. Real hunters understand what hunting is all about and they are the ones opposed to the WHA.

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Amen to that

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so proffesional Bass fishermen have sold out? Have pro soccer players have sold out? jeez- world soccer is considered sacred to their countrymen

hell, all pro athletes have sold out! i guess hunting is more sacred then anyother tradition? that is false


what a ludicrus comment

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Obviously you're either very young or very naive. You're going to find that quite a few people, most likely the majority of the members here, feel the same way as I do.

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Thanks for the message.

Well your obviously very old and out of touch with this generation. perhaps you have negatively influenced the general public and have lacked in your efforts for youth recruitment in hunting.

i didnt know the Hunting Net forum represented the whole hunting community...

please, lets keep generalizations out of this..

Yours

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You must have somehow missed the signature underneith all my posts that lets everyone know that I'm a teenager. I'm only 18, and I'm very in touch with my generation, thanks.

I never said that HuntingNet.com represented the entire hunting community. What I did say was that I'm fairly certain that the majority of those who are registered members here (at HuntingNet.com) feel the same way I do about the WHA.

If you still fail to realize this, I welcome you to run a quick search for previous threads regarding the WHA. You'll find that a lot has already been discussed, and, well, the majority really do in fact feel the same way I do.

I haven't generalized one bit. As I said in one of my previous posts, I'm simply stating my opinions. Granted, I did throw the statement out therthat I'm sure that quite a few others here at HuntingNet.comfeel the same way, but I'm entitled. I've been involved in the majority of the previous discussions so I have quite a bit to base those statements on.

Again, I welcome you to do a quick search and educate yourself as to the feelings of your fellow members. If you still feel that I'm "generalizing" after you've done that, feel free to post yet another reply and I'll be sure to repeat myself once again.

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I welcome you to actually visit the WHA website and see they ARE NOT tranquilizing deer...they explicitly state they are Harvesting deer now...

you are NOT up to date... as your previous threads are now irrelevant...

Yours..

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Believe me, I know what the WHA is up to now. There was a thread earlier today letting everyone know that the tranquelizing portion of the contest has been replaced.

Does that make what they're doing any more respectable? No. Slightly less dispicable? Possibly.

My problem is with "hunters" competing for cash prizes. "Shoot the biggest deer for big dollars." It isn't right and it amazes me that people actually support it.

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thanks. I can tell you are well known here on HNI

Lets examine this further....

You said, "Our sport isn't about taking home cash prizes for tranqulizing deer."

Well that is just completely false..if you have been informed..as you freely admit...they are NOT traquilizing deer for cash prizes

please dont contridict yourself...

But..i do respect your opinion about prize money.. but then again...why dont you say "hey, i think ALL pro athletes are SeLL outs because they get paid"

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Our sport is a lot different than other sports.

We kill animals. We kill living, breathing, resproducing creatures. We take the lives of living things.

In baseball theplayersget paid to play well, not to kill well.

In football theplayersget paid to play well, not take the lives of animals.

In soccer the playersget paid to play well, not to kill an animal worth mounting on the wall.

If you can't see just how different our sport is from all the others out there, maybe you need to reconsider what it is thatyou're doing in the woods each fall.

I respect each and every animal I kill, and I feel that the WHA and those participating in the hunts are degradingour sportby parading it around like its just another reality TV show.

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wow-

I think you digging your own grave...

i wonder if a serial murderer says " I respect each and every person I kill"

they are living, breathing and reproducing creatures...

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How exactly...?

You know what, I'm done arguing about it. You can continue to support the WHA if you like, but you'll be a part of a small group that do.

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I respect you conceding.

Also- I would appreacite not getting flamed by one of your HNI cohorts, I respect all original opinions and would do not respect bandwagoning.

Wash-
The line is very hard to draw. Where do you draw the line? I dont think there is a definite/concrete answer. I think we should all get the facts STRAIGHT and stop hammering the irrevelvant or the outdated.

thats my advice

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okay, so your saying that because he puts down the animal he kills as quickly as possible, that he is not respecting it??? are you relating our way of life to murder? do you hunt at all? ???


-Travis-

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Ct-
thanks for the message..

I dont have a problem with harvesting and killing a white-tail. Hell, that is what I do!

I am glad to see the WHA is fatal now...

BTW- I heard from a relative in Dallas that the WHA was at the Texas Trophy hunters Xtravagenza and he said he spoke with the guys at the WHA.

He went on to say they had one of the most popular booths and that they (the WHA) really came prepared. He said they answered all his questions and He is now re-considering his opinion on the WHA...

Hell- I trust him more than some interent poster..

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World soccer and Hunting are not even close in comparison. Hunting is not a sport at all. It is a way of life. Foreign to many non-hunters.

Your credence on this issue, there Zumbo, is detrimentally affected by that view. Try going hunting sometime.

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I think that it is absurd to compete in a hunting competition for money. It going to ruin the sport, just like baseball, football, soccer, hockey.The majority of professional athletes compete for the money. Washington Hunter anbd CTHunter are right on. Every true hunter out there hunts out of there heart, enjoying the creations of GOD and this beautiful country. Every animal is taken out of respect and if there is a person out there that doesn't, I'd like to have a word with him because those are the people that put a bad name for hunters.

Right on. We need to keep our this tradition the way it was 50 years ago and not turn it into some ***** reality tv show on mtv with drama queens prancing around, complaining about every little thing that happens that effects them. It can't happen. It will ruin ourway of lifefor good. The whole money factor is a kick in the arse for the hunting world.

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Your exactly right. People just don't understand it. They think it's just a hobby, or something we do a few days out of the year. WRONGO. Only other hunters can understand.

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Anyone who represents, participates, or sponsors the WHA is selling out hunting for one simple reason................money. No matter if they tranqualize deer or kill deer. Has Farbman's WHA proclaimed themselves a non-profit organization? No I didn't think so. The WHA would like us to think they are our self appointed savior. I don't want or need them to represent me!

What will (1) Farbman gain, what will any (2) particpants gain, and what would any (3) sponsors gain?

(1) More money, its simply another enterprize for Farbman.
(2) Prize money
(3) More exposure for their products

But what will all hunters gain? Nothing!!!!!

What will all hunters lose?
Respect from those who do not hunt but are not categorized as anti's. We do not need to lose any support from non-hunters. Simply put, non-hunters are people who choose not to hunt for various reasons, but are not against others hunting. I know lots of people who do not wish to hunt, but support the idea and tradition of hunting. This very idea of a "professional sports league"(and I use that term very loosely) can and will very easily turn those who would support us, but do not hunt against us.

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[quote]ORIGINAL: flyfishpj

Every true hunter out there hunts out of there heart, enjoying the creations of GOD and this beautiful country.

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Is it just me or did Will Primos just get online?

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Well said Cougar Mag!!!!

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Washington Hunter, you are one 18-year-old who I'd be honored to share my deer camp with any time you please...

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If anything the WHA will increase AWARENESS and Youth Participation... who cares about big business philosophies

I am glad the WHA switched from darting... they have done the right thing, in my opinion

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I do because i do not want them ruining hunting, much likeit has everything else. The WHA may increase AWARNESS, but not in a postive light. To anyone on the fence about the hunting issue, the WHA is going to make us seem like money hungry killers...That in no way, shape, or form can be a good thing.