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Predator Fall Grey, I Love It!!!!
Hey guys, just got my new Predator Suit in today. Thought I would post a few pics with different backgrounds. The reason for taking some in front of green backgrounds was just to prove how well it breaks you up. I am impressed, to say the least. Enjoy!
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Good deal. Congrats!
How much did the suit cost you?:) |
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I know Predator Fall Grey works, no doubt but not how ASAT 3D can, I've worn them both, where is the comparison photos?
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Dang Pics, I'll try this again.
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In a tree it's great. In the right ground cover it's great. Against summer green it's a neon light. Wait for fall Grasshopper.:D[8D][8D]
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Yes I too love the predator camo. I have the used their camo for a few years. This year I am giving the deception a try. When I shot my doe I was standing in the open merely 10 feet from several deer. Got a couple head bobs at 1st but within mins they went about feeding again. I stood there for over 30 mins just watching before I finally released my arrow. I was so drained from being so close for so long. Anyways sorry for the long post, good luck with your new camo.
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WHEW!!! Dude, I'm just glad you FINALLY got something!! LOL.....you'll be happy w/ it, no doubt. What fabric is it?
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Congrats. I'm definitely purchasing a set of Fall Grey soon.
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Don't think there is much of a comparison. 98.00 for the whole suit. Nobrainer.
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I'm using evolution for the early season. It looks really good among the leaves I can see how the fall grey will be great after the leaves fall!
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It may stand out like a flash light against the green stuff, but an unrecognizable flashlight.
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And another. Looks good even with the NB shoes. HA HA Try that with ASAT.
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Dang it!
You guys have gotten me wanting this stuff even more. Looks good Tomkat.:) What fabric is it? |
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I love this stuff!!!! Sorry for all the pics, but I wanted responses. Whether positive or neg. Thanks, LT
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Positive, OR negative?? Ok, I'm not impressed, actually. You look like a neon sign hanging from a tree. Perhaps it's the lighting, perhaps it's the colors, I don't know.....but you aren't blending in at all. It's a good pattern, no doubt, I just don't think it breaks up the outline all that well. Sorry, just my.02
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Duc, It's cotton. Kinda stiff at first, but I feel like it will be like an extremely tough t-shirt feel once it's washed a few times. I believe from what I've heard about ASAT it is tougher material than theirs. Just from what I've been told. These are the coveralls with 6 pockets and vent holes like regular coveralls. Zip up the front and also have 2 snap buttons on front. Ties at the cuffs. Oh and they also have extra material under the arms sewn in to facilitate stretching. (as in full draw)
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In a tree it's great. If you're happy with it now, and you should be, you're gonna love this stuff when the leaves are gone and you'reskylighted out in the open. THAT'S when it shines. |
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It definately breaks up the human outline which first and foremost is the most important aspect of camo. It's better than MO and RT in that respects. There is a reason why Predator makes a Spring Green, formerly Fall Brown, now Deception and Fall Grey. One pattern is not going to work for all. I'd be hard pressed to wear Fall Grey in the Spring turkey Woods either for birds or other hunters. Spring Green would be awesome for the spring turkey woods but a far cry for Fall when the leaves leave the trees. I've worn Fall Brown and Fall Grey in the deer woods and have good results with it, not great results but good results, better than anything from MO and RT.
On my elk trip to Wyoming, the black timber had alot of green in it. I wore ASAT, my guide wore Indian Wool and my partner wore Predator Fall Brown. When my bull came in he leaned past me to look at my partner and my guide, he never once look "at" me...I could see his head and eyes go from one guy to another off to my side and behind me....I knew then that ASAT was out performing Predator Fall Brown and the Indian Wool wore by them. I couldn't believe I drew and shot while the bull looked past me and to my side.  |
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mobow, the pics in the tree are at 10yds. Now you tell me at 20 a deer can tell what I am and I'll eat a 3D ASAT suit.
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But.....I can still see you!;):D
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Squirrel, and everyone else. I took the pictures in these scenarios on purpose. You see, "blending in" is one thing, being "disguised" is another. I believe your disguise can make or break you. That said, "Predator" disguises you pretty darn well in any background. Breaking your outline up is a great plus, but if you still look like a human and are not disguised, you are still defeating your purpose. Yeah, a deer is gonna question "anything" out of place, but if that anything does not seem to pose a threat or smell bad = Comfortable Deer. I will still use Mossy Oak in Scent Lok. I will use an old Trebark suit. I will use Realtree Hardwoods. I will use any of these, but only if they disguise me. After all, you don't wanna look like a tree limb, a bush, a tree trunk, a ________ whatever just to be looking like one do you?
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LT, that, right there, was FUNNY!!! I can't possibly tell you that, in fact, that's the beauty of it all. Camo patterns are more designed for our eyes, not the animals. There's really one reason for this. We don't know WHAT the animal sees. We simply can't ask them. Camo such as ASAT have no shelf appeal what so ever. It's impossible to explain if you've never worn it, because it looks like nothing to us. But that's why the big guys sell camo, it sure does LOOK good to us.
I'm not trying to argue, or even second guess you, but you said you wanted feedback, both positive and NEGATIVE.....I just don't like it in the situation you've put it in is all. |
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Your outline is gone, period. Now... do the colors blend in with your surroundings? Absolutely not, and I think that's what some are seeing here.
In your treestand pic, imagine if you were about 10 yards to your right... where the trees end and the sky starts. Those white blobs which are so effective at obliterating your outline now would simply make it vanish against the skyline. Have your picture-taker walk about 10-15 yards to their left, so that we as viewers will see you as a deer would when you were skylighted. That's when this pattern performs its best. |
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I wonder what a deer thinks. Hmmm, there is a tree out of place here. Hmmm, there is a rock that wasn't here yesterday. Hmmm, a bush that looks like a human, better go around him. You honestly think a deer cares if a tree falls, a limb is out of place, the wind blows, lightning strikes? A deer has 3 things on his mind that we "Know", Food, Mating, and Eluding predators. Anything else that goes on in a deer's life is just that, a life occurrence. Just like we go through changes and so do our surroundings, a deer will adapt and life goes on. That said, appear and smell like something in a deer's everyday life and you are on your way to becoming one with the elusive whitetail Danielson.
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I have heard many times that deer are colorblind and can only see hi uv colors like blue. Anyone else heard this? If true then you should take some black and white picks. Oh and deer can not see the fancy detail of the leaves and twigs on these detailed camos such as MO or AT. Not that they are bad camos. |
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I WILL STICK TO MY MOSSY OAK. IT IS GOOD LOOKING CAMMO THOUGH.
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Ive never been impressed with the predator camo. Now that Illusion 3D is some cool looking stuff and blends in with all surroundings all year round.
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I'm simply a skeptic.
I've had deer look right at me.....with the "commercial" stuff on.....and never go on alert....due to me remaining perfectly still. I don't think I've ever been busted by a deer looking and thinking (who can argue this....lol) "what's that blob"? I set up 2 stands on Wednesday night.....and both places...I looked for where I had NATURAL cover. I'll take my chances. Will you be successful wearing this stuff? Likely. Would you be successful if you had on something else??? That's called marketing, boys......... Me....I'm hoping they NEVER SEE ME (or hear me.....ifyaknowwhatimean;)). Just my .02 Jeff |
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One more observation........
THE ONLY camo I've seen that I'm impressed with............... Is a long sleeve black t-shirt.....while inside our DB blind (windows up). You're invisible. I've often thought a solid grey sweatsuit would actually work better in the Winter, here....against our ashen colored trees. Maybe I'll try that, this year. I know it would "blend" better than the camo patterns I've seen or tried. Isn't that the point?????? I started a thread a couple of weeks ago that asked "who's the camo for,.....us or them"? I still think I know the answer. BUT....is some better than others??? YES. This is as good as I've seen (well....other than the black t-shirt!). Jeff |
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"Against summer green it's a neon light."
LOL:D:D:D Confidence in something goes a long way. Good hunting Tomcat! |
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I have heard many times that deer are colorblind and can only see hi uv colors like blue. Anyone else heard this? Again, here's Marc Barger's take on the "UV phenomenon".... The UV stuff is just another marketing ploy to get people to buy their products. I did a test once where I washed some clothing twice in the most whitening household laundry detergent you could buy. I mean this stuff would make black look bright. Anyway I knew where a bunch of deer came out into a field so set myself up so there was no way when they walked towards the field they would not 'see' me if I was glowing like a neon light. Long story short they never knew I was there. Walked right towards me. Right under me. Milled around me for quite a while. If I was glowing they sure couldn't see it. And I was only about 12 feet off the ground. Course I was wearing Fall Brown so that might've helped. But that test and others in more recent years proved to me that it was all bull. Ya know what I think the UV 'scare' was? I think that a lot of people were getting picked off because the new 'best' camo patterns they were wearing were so dark that the deer were spotting them. So someone picked up on this and thought let's tell them this is the problem while all along it was just that they were big dark blobs sitting in a tree thinking a smart hunter savvy deer wouldn't notice them. Wrong. |
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So are you saying that they don’t see in black and white? |
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I don't believe that deer see in black and white but we'll never know, the deer won't tell us the truth.
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So are you saying that they don’t see in black and white? Before I was turned on to "No UV-brighteners", I used to wash my hunting clothes in normal unscented detergent chock-full of UV's, I guess. There was no difference. I agree with Marc's sentiments up above. |
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You honestly think a deer cares if a tree falls, a limb is out of place, the wind blows, lightning strikes? |
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Science understands the human eye, rods, cones, all that stuff I know nothing about. So they take that knowledge, and apply it to the eyes of animals. Sounds good, in theory. Logically, that rationale would work, but it can't. Simply because we cannot communicate w/ deer.A deer can't tell us what colors he sees. The reason we know what we do is by studying the human eye, the subject being studied can tell us what he see's, and what he doesn't.
No one will ever know for sure what deer can and can't see. I guarantee you one thing, though......Movement will get you busted every single time, unless your camo is doing it's job very well. Even then, you're gonna get nailed at least half the time. |
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Alright guys, I guess that it is time for me to help you guys understand which camo is the most effective and how deer do see colors and shapes by my vast experience and education on the subject.
First of all I will guarantee you that the Predator patterns are the best patterns to use to break up your outline and virtually disappear to the eyes of the whitetail. And whether you want to believe the opinion that deer only see the shades of black and white and greyand nothing else on the color spectrum, it is true. Now let me back these statements up so that you can take them as gospel. This is a very hard subject for me to talk about, but I feel the need to do now to help you guys all understand. When I was born, my parents didn't want me and they aboandoned me. I was left in a small woodlot, bordered by a creek on one side and an abandoned railroad bed on the other. Fortunately, I was found and raised by a small herd of whitetail deer. They nursed me and fed me, and educated me to the world of the whitetail. At 17 I was discovered by a farmer, and removed from the wild and domesticated on his small farm on the edge of a small farming community. Over the years that I made the woods my home, I was able to use the knowledge that my "deer" family instilled in me to outsmart many, many hunters in various brands of camo. Many tried to get close to me in all their expensive, new state of the art camo patterns, but no one ever came close.... Until one dreary, cold and mistyday in mid November. Luckily for me, the bowhunter was a terrible shot and missed, or I would be ashoulder mount right now. How did he get so close to me?........ PREDATOR FALL GREY!!!!. I never ever saw him. I was a mere 12 yards from him. He did something in that camo that no other man had ever been able to do, not even the many wearers of ASAT that invaded our woods. Yes, in my black, whiteand grey world, every other pattern stuck out like a beacon until that dangerous pattern they call Predator was invented. Trust me, I lost alot of family members and great friends to that evil pattern, or what we called "Unseen Death". So take it from a former deer herd member, Predator Fall Grey is absolutely, hands down the best and most effective camo out there. I swear it on my Mother, Bambi's, life. And that is the end of the story..............;) |
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ORIGINAL: Proff Alright guys, I guess that it is time for me to help you guys understand which camo is the most effective and how deer do see colors and shapes by my vast experience and education on the subject. First of all I will guarantee you that the Predator patterns are the best patterns to use to break up your outline and virtually disappear to the eyes of the whitetail. And whether you want to believe the opinion that deer only see the shades of black and white and greyand nothing else on the color spectrum, it is true. Now let me back these statements up so that you can take them as gospel. This is a very hard subject for me to talk about, but I feel the need to do now to help you guys all understand. When I was born, my parents didn't want me and they aboandoned me. I was left in a small woodlot, bordered by a creek on one side and an abandoned railroad bed on the other. Fortunately, I was found and raised by a small herd of whitetail deer. They nursed me and fed me, and educated me to the world of the whitetail. At 17 I was discovered by a farmer, and removed from the wild and domesticated on his small farm on the edge of a small farming community. Over the years that I made the woods my home, I was able to use the knowledge that my "deer" family instilled in me to outsmart many, many hunters in various brands of camo. Many tried to get close to me in all their expensive, new state of the art camo patterns, but no one ever came close.... Until one dreary, cold and mistyday in mid November. Luckily for me, the bowhunter was a terrible shot and missed, or I would be ashoulder mount right now. How did he get so close to me?........ PREDATOR FALL GREY!!!!. I never ever saw him. I was a mere 12 yards from him. He did something in that camo that no other man had ever been able to do, not even the many wearers of ASAT that invaded our woods. Yes, in my black, whiteand grey world, every other pattern stuck out like a beacon until that dangerous pattern they call Predator was invented. Trust me, I lost alot of family members and great friends to that evil pattern, or what we called "Unseen Death". So take it from a former deer herd member, Predator Fall Grey is absolutely, hands down the best and most effective camo out there. I swear it on my Mother, Bambi's, life. And that is the end of the story..............;)  |
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Absolutely. Deer notice changes in their environment. Why do you think a blind sometimes spooks them, your truck parked in the field keeps them out of the field, they avoid shooting lanes that have been cut. They most certainly do notice, and care LT |
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They are certainly isolated incidents and I have had some strange things happen as well but I can also tell you that deer do indeed care about their surroundings and anything that is out of place now I say that as my own experiences not to back mobow however there is no need to get personal LT especially with the direct sarcastic name calling.
If someone came into your bedroom and moved your bed 5 feet, I'd bet you'd notice, same as hanging stands in the woods or cutting shooting lanes. Perhaps not all deer respond the same way but I ask you this, How many mature bucks did you have walk up to your truck, or your other incidents? Deer are individuals as are we and the curiosity dwindles as they mature and it's my goal to hunt those mature deer. I too will take every advantage I can when doing so and that means blending in the best way possible. It may be wearing PFG in the bare winter trees but never in a green enviroment. We've all proven how effective PFG can be however, it's not a one stop fix all camo...even Greg / MO will tell you that. You've made a good purchase LT, perhaps not a great purchase for early season but a great purchase for in the trees when the leaves come down if, you setup correctly. My point is, if your not interested in buying different camo for different seasons, perhaps PFG isn't the right camo for you. Again, don't make this personal, thanks. |
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