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I disagree in some ways. Yes you should respect the land owners wishes but in this situation it isn't like us normal hunters.

1) The land owner is selling these deer. Call it outfitting if you like but it is a bussness and the guys hunting is the customers. And can you honestly say if you payed for a hunt and you was on the last even of the hunt you would pass up a 110-120 class deer and go home empty handed? You might say they didn't pay for this but trust me someone somehow payed for this hunt and the landowner was getting something for it.

2) This is a compition whichI don't really like seeing hunting turned into but the simple fact of people wanting to win will play a large part of this and they don't want to pass up the chance for a good shot/kill on video.

In short this whole show is a slap in the faces of true hunters and I think it is being scripted to cause more dramatics and you make you want to love a team or hate a team just so you will keep watching. Thats part of the TV world and is hardly reality TV. JMO

Trytan

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1st of all,what the landowner says,goes. Period.

In the world of DS, shooting a 100-110 class buck is in deed, worse than not shooting one at all. These guys are being judged based on alot more than the deer they bring in. As long as the judging encompasses all things needed to be a good video host, and that is the goal right? Then I don't have a problem witht he competition, so much as the competitors and how they handle themselves.

I havnt gotten to watch any of this season, but it does sound like they're pushing too far into the reality TV concept.

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Not to get off topic but that same night I was watching the outdoor channel I was wathcing Hunter Specalities. Stan Potts dropped a big 8pt in Kanas on private land nice quick and clean kill however his buddy Rick White missed a nice buck he took a 45 yard shot and shot right under the buck. Later the same morning in the same tree he gets another chance at a smaller but still shooter buck at 15 yards and shots right over the deers back. Then finally he got in Stans tree stand the same stand that Stan got the big 8 out of. Well a huge 9 come in about 10 yards behind some brush Rick comes to full draw rushes the shot hits a branch and smacks the deer way way far back this made me sick. Now I'm not trying to flame the guy, and I know everyone makes mistakes but it seem as if he rushed his shot, and this would be his 3rd mistake in one day. The video showed that they left the deer sit over night and the next morning then did find him, which was a big relief. Whats your guys take on this. Again I'm not trying to flame anyone, everyone makes mistakes heck even I have, the diffrenece is this was his 3rd in one day.

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I saw a guy skip two arrows off the SAME mule deer's back the other night.......20 minutes apart. He seemed to be a very knowledgeable archer (knew his distance....and got the same shot at the same buck...twice).....and I told my wife right then....

I WOULD NOT TAKE ANOTHER SHOT WITH THAT BOW AT AN ANIMAL UNTIL I HAD IT CHECKED.

Period.

Jeff

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I seen that same show yesterday or the day before, can't remember.

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I don't know this for fact, but I would be willing to bet the land owners are willing to let the show take place on their ranch for plublicity and advertisment.

Outfitting is more than a money making business. The deer heard has to be managed right to have those big bucks consistently year after year. If you kill the 100 - 120 class bucks you have created a hole that will hurt the heard in a few years. Those bucks they killed seemed to be 1.5 - 2.5 year old deer. They had good genetics to have antlers that size at that young. Now those good genetic bucks can't reproduce. It is a domino effect.

That one messed up buck that MN took IMO was a good management buck. I personally wouldn't want those genes floating around in my ranch.

I thought it was total disrespect that the PA team went against the wishes of the owners. Complete hacks if you ask me.

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I have posted about the Penn. team and my feelings on them since this seasons shows started and they sure haven't changed any. I couldn't stand them right away, especially the "drunk" ( as he is known on here). I did have respect for the other guy when he wouldn't take the drunk out in the woods, and figured that I would give him a fair chance and see how he turns out to be. Well, as most of you feel and me and my buddies all feel, he has turned out to be a real idiot also. I think that he is really an argumentitive smart aleck. What killed me about this weeks episode is how they said that he wasn't at the morning or evening team meetings that they had where the outfitter and Dr. Woods asked the specifically to not take the smaller deer but to take the 125" and up bucks. Then when they pulled the plug on the hunt because his little drunk buddy shot a tweener ( after he already had earlier) , he stood there and argued with the lady from team Texas that they never said that. The idiot wasn't even there because he was at the casinos. They are a very poor representation if you ask me. Me and a co worker just talked about it today. We bothe said that we would love to have the opportunity that these guys had, and we already take our hunting so seriously and would even more with the competition on the line, and these two are more worried about drinking or going to a casino. It amazes me. I just don't get it, but from what I have seen from these guys, it doesn't suprise me a bit.
I hate to say it, since Team Illinois are posting members here, but I have kind of switched my vote to Team Kentucky. I have read where other guys have said that Team Illinois have really seemed to be alot cockier than they appeared at first. It just seems like Team Kentucky just reallyseem to have a great attitude and really have the right idea about what it is all about( even with their incredible bouts of bad luck). Kust like last night, when they stopped the hunt, team Penns. and Ill. were going on about being mad because they did it and that they still had the tag etc. Then the Kentucky boys spoke up that they were disgusted to be a part of it because of what had happened, and Louis Payne said that he would have pulled the plug long before they actually did. That was pretty cool to me. The were upset that the stuff happened to have the hunt cancelled, not that they couldn't hunt in the morning. Just my opinion. Sorry Team Ill., I have given you several votes over the past weeks, but as of right now I am voting for Kentucky. I just really think they are a couple good ol boys who really get it. And as said before, I hope Mark and Terry really rip the Penns. jerks at the end when they critique them and use them as an object lesson of how not to be as a hunter.;)

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I don't understand how the PA guy's have their priorities all jacked up. They went there to hunts and that is what they should be doing. I can understand winding down with 2-3 beers and going over the footage for that day. But getting plastered and staying up all night???? And going to the casino???? What a couple of jerkoff's. Sorry for another rant. Seems like every time somebody posts about these two moroons, it gets me fired up again.

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Tree hunter.
Totaly agree with you about the post about the MN guys taking that Junk Buck. If I managed a place like that I wouldn't that thing running around my place.

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I'm voting for Team Kentucky, they seem to have good ethics and are representing the hunting community well. Not to mention they are from my home state and in reality a couple of really good, down to earth people. I hope they actually get a couple good deer down.

Kel