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RE: need advice on a new rest
I choose to gowith moving parts, which means no bad movementsof my arrows.Bad flying arrows at living animalsIMO offer more opportunity for failure. |
RE: need advice on a new rest
I'm sure your going to get many different answers and maybe even a few arguments in reply to your post.Much like you i'm also what you call old school. I shot a prong restearly onand then a fallaway came on to the scene called the Barner st. I tried it for about 6 months before going back to theprong style rest.
I've tried many of the rest thats out there today with the exception of a couple and i'll give you my thoughts based on my experience with three of them, the TT, dropzone and the WB. The TT Shakey isa great rest and i harvested a couple deer while using it.It's built very solid and pretty easy to tune and it works well. However, i could not get it as quiet as i wanted no matter how much fleece or material i put on the bow shelf for the launcher to land on.It wasn't real loud but it did make a little slap that bugged the heck out of me so off it came. After that i tried the WB deluxe.Set up was pretty straight forward and it tuned nicely and shot good. I used black goldtip xt's with feathers and the only fletching damage i had was the very edge of the feathers got a little fuzzy but still flew great. It was pretty quietwith very little noise,had good arrowcontainment and shot well. It was as accurate as i could shoot with it but ididhave a flyer every once in a while with broadheads. I can see why it's so popular with hunters, it's a very goodrestbut it just wasn't for me andafter a couple months of shooting it i took it off and moved on with no regrets.Not bashingthe WB here, it's no doubta good huntingrest butonly you can decide if it's for you or not. Next i tried the dropzone, it was very easy to setupand tuned just as easy. My concern with it was that it made a light spring noise when the launcher arm fell and continued to do so even afterthe o-ring kit was installed. I played with it for a while buy it just didn't do it for me. I may have just gotten a bad one because i've heard others that were very quite but none the less i took it off. No bashing here either, it'sa very solid and highly used and rcommended fallaway. I'm not going to mention the others i've triedbecause they were all goodin their own way. The thing is this,all the rest out there will do what they're designed to do if the bow is set up and properly tuned but some will do it a little better than others. It's all a matter of what tickels your fancy whetherit be a WB, fallaway or a conventional rest. For me personally i've settled in on a fallawayand it's the GKF Mirage.I won't use anything else on my hunting bow, i like it that much.It has everything i want in afallaway for hunting but that doesn't mean it's the best. It simplymeans that it's the bestfor me and to me.;) There's a ton of good rest out there, research the ones you're most interested in and then decide which onemeets your needs and go for it.Chances are, that will be the best rest to you and for you as well. ;):D |
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I second the ripcord suggestion. No contact and the arrow cannot fall off the rest. If you have access to a WB pull the vanes thru it. That cannot be an accurate arrow. I swiched and LOVE IT!
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RE: need advice on a new rest
ORIGINAL: Mykey I'm sure your going to get many different answers and maybe even a few arguments in reply to your post.Much like you i'm also what you call old school. I shot a prong restearly onand then a fallaway came on to the scene called the Barner st. I tried it for about 6 months before going back to theprong style rest. I've tried many of the rest thats out there today with the exception of a couple and i'll give you my thoughts based on my experience with three of them, the TT, dropzone and the WB. The TT Shakey isa great rest and i harvested a couple deer while using it.It's built very solid and pretty easy to tune and it works well. However, i could not get it as quiet as i wanted no matter how much fleece or material i put on the bow shelf for the launcher to land on.It wasn't real loud but it did make a little slap that bugged the heck out of me so off it came. After that i tried the WB deluxe.Set up was pretty straight forward and it tuned nicely and shot good. I used black goldtip xt's with feathers and the only fletching damage i had was the very edge of the feathers got a little fuzzy but still flew great. It was pretty quietwith very little noise,had good arrowcontainment and shot well. It was as accurate as i could shoot with it but ididhave a flyer every once in a while with broadheads. I can see why it's so popular with hunters, it's a very goodrestbut it just wasn't for me andafter a couple months of shooting it i took it off and moved on with no regrets.Not bashingthe WB here, it's no doubta good huntingrest butonly you can decide if it's for you or not. Next i tried the dropzone, it was very easy to setupand tuned just as easy. My concern with it was that it made a light spring noise when the launcher arm fell and continued to do so even afterthe o-ring kit was installed. I played with it for a while buy it just didn't do it for me. I may have just gotten a bad one because i've heard others that were very quite but none the less i took it off. No bashing here either, it'sa very solid and highly used and rcommended fallaway. I'm not going to mention the others i've triedbecause they were all goodin their own way. The thing is this,all the rest out there will do what they're designed to do if the bow is set up and properly tuned but some will do it a little better than others. It's all a matter of what tickels your fancy whetherit be a WB, fallaway or a conventional rest. For me personally i've settled in on a fallawayand it's the GKF Mirage.I won't use anything else on my hunting bow, i like it that much.It has everything i want in afallaway for hunting but that doesn't mean it's the best. It simplymeans that it's the bestfor me and to me.;) There's a ton of good rest out there, research the ones you're most interested in and then decide which onemeets your needs and go for it.Chances are, that will be the best rest to you and for you as well. ;):D |
RE: need advice on a new rest
ORIGINAL: tschammel I never said the wb was a bad rest. I think it is a great rest for some kinds of hunting. Im sure you can shoot good groups with it but it is notthe most forgiving rest. Don't be rediculus. Im just giving the facts. Its simple, the WB is has full contact with your arrow at all times. After you let go of that string any movement at all will afect your arrow and it's flight, which makes it less forgiving than adrop away.A drop away rest, once you let go of thestring,falls completely out of the way and any movement after that will notaffect your flignt because there is no contact with your arrow anymore. So you can get away with a little more with the drop aways. That is the whole point of the drop away, no contact, more forgiveness. Don't let someone tell you more contact is less forgiving, does't make sense.Or let them explain why and see if it makes sense to you. your point makes a ton of sense I totally see why a fall away could be more forgiving excellent point, I never even thought of that. but Im still leaning towards the whisker biscuit but still not sure because of the fact its a full contact rest which has got me thinking about how it might effect velocity. because my bow isnt exactly setup for speed as it is becuase of an injury im limited to no more then 60 lbs of draw weight and i still havent made the transition to carbons and with my 31 inch draw length im limited to shooting heavy log aluminum arrows 2315 xx75's ive considered dropping my tip/broadhead weight down from 100 grains to maybe 75 that way I could maybe go with a lighter shaft and still have enough backbone but with my current setup im only getting an average chronographed speed of 219 fps. |
RE: need advice on a new rest
HighDesert, ANY bow you shoot with torque or improper form will give you inconsistant accuaracy. As for fletching contact, people can't get past the simple idea that contact as it has been known, which is generally contact with 1 or maybe even 2 vanes and also the type of contact which is generally against a hard or semi-stationary object, tends to deflect and alter arrow flight, while WB contact is more of a uniform and less obtrusive contact. I can tell you for fact you can shoot good groups with a WB and not be in tune. Tune it up and you better shoot at different spots or you'll be re-fletching and buying new arrows. Its all this mis-info that people throw out there that really is a shame because people like you don't really know and then never try something base on b.s. The WB may or may not be for you but the real way to find out is to actually try one. Good luck.
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i vote for the QAD ultrarest, i've had great success w/ it. Its accurate and you get total containment.
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RE: need advice on a new rest
I concur with Ed. It's a great rest. We've had this rest on one of our bows for a year now. I't performed well.
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RE: need advice on a new rest
Its simple, the WB is has full contact with your arrow at all times. This is the problem with so many that discredit the WB., they simply have never tried one, they simply don't know the FACTS!! The WB is a good rest, as are many drop aways. Thankfully we live in a country where we are all free to choose which is BEST for each of us!! |
RE: need advice on a new rest
It is personal preference your right. Just a couple of other things to add. You said that your limited to 60lb bow, and you want to switch to 75grain heads to add spead. I would guard against doing that. You will increase your spead but if your shooting in the 50's for poundage your going to loose alot of penetration going to a 75grain head. If you want to keep some speed a drop away would be a good idea, no drag. But, Im done promoting the drop away, said all I can say about it.
Good luck in choosing a rest. I was just givng my opinion from my experiences. Not trying to give you any bs. Good luck hunting! |
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