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Iowa Monsterbuck 07-19-2006 09:39 AM

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Just seeking opinions onthe latest episode of the Spirit of the Wild TV show.

On this episode the Nuge shoots two doe fawns on a spot and stalk with his bow. The first he gut shoots low and it runs off with its innards literally hanging out. The second he shoots while it is directly facinghim "going for the jugular". Both deer were eventually recovered.

I accept the fact that bad shots happen and his shot on the first fawn was definitely a BAD shot. Just wondering how if you can't hit the vitals on a broadside deer you can expect to hit a jugular vein?

Afterward Ted spent quite a long time explaining how it's ok to shoot fawns and that the deer were too small to survive anyway. I tend to disagree with him but I'd like to hear other opinions.

fatsbucknut 07-19-2006 09:47 AM

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I dont agree with the risky shot he took but the shooting of yearlings is up to the individual. WhenI first started I shot whatever gave me a good opportunity, now I hold out for atleast a mature doe. But if they really were in danger of starving through the winter, maybe he did them a favor.


Zach

lou-lou 07-19-2006 09:49 AM

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Like it's been said before, that's whyhis show is calledSpirit of the BAIT PILE, and HIGH FENCE SAFARI'S. I agree with C4 toys while his methods are different, we need him to promote bowhunting and other issues.

Matt/TN 07-19-2006 09:50 AM

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well you cant complain because theya re his deer on his ranch he can do whatever he wants

GMMAT 07-19-2006 09:56 AM

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I don't agree with everything Ted does......

But if he's taking deer by legal methods.....on land he has permission to hunt (or owns).....I'm not saying a word.

Jeff

HAZCON7 07-19-2006 10:42 AM

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I saw Ted on MTV Cribs (don't ask me why I was watching MTV??)
He has a small shooting range in his basement with a paperdeer cutout as a target.
He picks up a bow, draws back... I'm thinking "This is gonna be great".... releases....
The arrows sails through his basement hallway (and thru a doorway if I remember correctly) and COMPLETELY misses the deer, hitting the target a full foot low and left.
Then he played it off like he was aiming for that exact spot - LOL.

I love Uncle Ted - but he is self admittedly crazy![&:]

Grandviewer 07-19-2006 10:50 AM

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I have not seen this episode yet and I'll watch him tomorrow night for sure to see if this is the one you're asking about.
This should make for some real interesting TV seeing how how he works his way out this one. I'll give credit he admits he's always working on his shot placement and avoiding target panic.
Uncle Ted rocks our bowhunting world.

Iowa Monsterbuck 07-19-2006 02:28 PM

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I guess if he'd rather shoot fawns than mature does that's his perogative. They're probably more tasty anyway. I don't buy his argument that they were too small to make it through winter, I'd rather he just said he was shooting them because he liked fawn meat or that he shoots whatever deer he sees.

I think his shooting and shot selection were awful.

chiefks 07-19-2006 03:53 PM

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I can't say on here what I think of the man.

moosehunter21 07-19-2006 03:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: chiefks

I can't say on here what I think of the man.
Ill second that opinion.

NY Harvester 07-21-2006 12:31 PM

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Mmmm...yearling =mountain veal.:)
Saw him cut his leg with a chainsaw last time I watched,..he screamed like a little girl..LOL Damn saw had to have a 36" bar. looked to me like he never used one before. Ended up needing a few stitches.

BobCo19-65 07-21-2006 12:47 PM

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I saw it yesterday. Looked like he had is own little masacre going on in the woods. Not commenting either way.

bawanajim 07-21-2006 01:27 PM

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It is really hard to find anything good to say about the jerk.

He shoots tame animels in a pen and puts it on tv what great promoter for the peta gang.

But he buys these pets & puts them in his pens then he shoots them ,it must be legal but that does not make it right and it sure as he!! does not make it hunting!

He should be in prison with the other pervert child molesters!

GR8atta2d 07-21-2006 01:42 PM

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he's a crack-pot.. his intentions are usually good helping a kid or promoting the troops.

He is just a little to whacko to really help out the cause!

bawanajim 07-21-2006 02:03 PM

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He is a wac- job that shouldbe used as an example to teach young hunters everything thats bad in hunting!

There is alot more to hunting than the killing. His lack of respect for the animels he kills should be a warning sign to anyone that hunts. The taking of unethical shots at animels in pens is another real sign of his true character. Wackem & stackem is another one of the looser lingos the self promoting ted uses.

The man is a portrait of what is wrong with the ranks of hunters and sportsmen in this country to day.

GMMAT 07-21-2006 02:12 PM

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You know.....

The worst thing we have going against us "hunters" is NOT PETA and their ilk.

NO....it's other "Hunters" that see to it to put down and mock (usuallyby EXTREMELY exagerrated /unFOUNDED means) things that other "hunters" do.

I see it EVERY year here in NC......people wanting to put down the practice of running dogs......and baiting. These are both LEGAL methods of hunting in our state (and it makes NO difference if I condone/practice either of these things), and the anti's DO NOT even need to bash them. We spend enough time and energy doing that to ourselves.

If it's legal....have at it. If I'm not mistaken.....Ted's ranch is over a few THOUSAND acres. I'm no fan of his show/music/life....but I will NOT put him down or cast aspersions due to him taking game in a legal manner that "I" don't happen to agree with (or whether I actually know it to be true, or not........'course that fact might get in the way of a good ol mad-on).

Jeff

bawanajim 07-21-2006 02:40 PM

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Heres some of those unfounded facts.


Rocker TED NUGENT is being sued for child support by a woman who claims he fathered her son.
Nugent has already acknowledged the fact he fathered KAREN GUTOWSKI's son, but the 42-year-old claims the minimal child support payments she has been receiving for eight years are far from enough.
Nugent, who has never met his illegitimate son, has two children with his wife SHEMANE.
Gutowski's attorney JEFFREY RUNGE claims Nugent pays his client monthly child support that's far less than he can afford.
The case is scheduled for a temporary hearing on 29 September (03), but Nugent has until 7 October (03) to file a response.
12/09/2003 02:11


TED NUGENT insists he has paid his dues for avoiding the draft to fight in Vietnam - he spent "a couple of weeks ready to rock" with a giant machine gun in Afghanistan two years ago (04). The Republican rocker feels awful about avoiding the army in the late 1960s and early 1970s, but he believes he has more than made up for it. He says, "Do I feel guilt and embarrassment? Yes. "I wish I'd understood how important America's fight against our enemies was. "But did I go to Fallujah two years ago? Damn right I did. "And was I in Afghanistan, manning a 50-calibre machine gun in a Chinook, ready to rock? Yes. "Was I there for years? No, a couple of weeks. But I am not a coward."
31/05/2006 12:37


bawanajim 07-21-2006 02:51 PM

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Heres a long read but it should open some eyes! What a Dic!!!!!!

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=145633

SPIKEHORN11 07-21-2006 02:53 PM

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I believe that if you know your a good enough shot you can take whatever shot you know as in your limits.

As far as young does I took a young really young doe that still had spots in late December. Fawns around here loose their spots in early septemeber. I didn't know it had spots when I shot but I know the deer wouldn't have made in through the winter. If I had know I still would have shot it. This wasn't a farm setting with tons of food.

KickerPoint79 07-21-2006 02:53 PM

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While I would much rather take mature animals for more meat, the thing I couldn't get over was
the "stalk." When I walk threw ankle deep dry leaves the deer are headed to the next county.

bawanajim 07-21-2006 02:58 PM

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Its hard for them to run far in a pen. And the animels Ted shoots think he is coming to feed them,Slam a truck door or just bang on a five gallon bucket and they all come a runnin.

What a guy!

JMonsterZUMBO 07-21-2006 04:03 PM

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hey yall.. does nugent really own a high fenced area? pleasecome forth with written evidence!

this would be pretty ironic ..if so

Dr Andy 07-21-2006 04:37 PM

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Last year I passed on a shot at a fawn w/spots. Couldn't do it. Afew weeks laterwhen earn a buck season started I did not have a buck tag. Guess who walks by my stand,BULLWINKLE! Next season first deer dies irregardless. And yes veal is yummy!

outdoorsmen 07-21-2006 04:57 PM

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I like the man. at least he speaks his mind and opinion, you got to respect that.

watch, he'll be the next president of the NRA. that's ok with me.

Arrowmaster 07-21-2006 07:33 PM

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Let me just say I really like Teds music... But music isnt the topic here. I myself feel he has went way overboard on his TV show. I wont watch it anymore. I believe he trys to send out a goodmessage thru his efforts with the NRA. I just have lost respect for him by watching his TV show. I thought his show would excite me. No it sure doesnt.

dangolbowhunter 07-21-2006 07:58 PM

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The Nuge Rocks! I may not know every aspect of the man's personnal life, and I don't care to. From what I have seen on Spirit of the Wild, Ted is ok with me(except for the unethical shot he took atthe fawn). Heis one of themost vocaladvocates for the sport we all love.

For the record my wife thinks he's a whack job; sorry Ted you can't win them all.



bawanajim 07-21-2006 08:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: dangolbowhunter

, Ted is ok with me(except for the unethical shot he took atthe fawn). Heis one of themost vocaladvocates for the sport we all love.

For the record my wife thinks he's a whack job; sorry Ted you can't win them all.


The man is unethical on tv in front of millions ofpeople ,what do you think he does when the camaras aren't running.What do you think nonhunters think of him orof real hunters.

And yes Ted owns twohigh fenced farms in Mi.& Texas both.

Killen & grillen or wackem & stackem are botha great way to convert nonhunters.

You'd think a man with that much money would spend time hunting deer instead of putting them in a pen and killing them.

He will be president of PETA before he runs the N.R.A. I hope.

BerwindaleBoy 07-21-2006 09:01 PM

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IMHO, Ted is a complete wingnut that will endorse just about anything. Furthermore, it seems to me that 99% of his hunts are inside a fence. I have hunted boars inside a fence and it was fun, but that seems to be all the guy does, for EVERYTHING HE HUNTS. I think the man is a legend in his own mind, and needs to cut down on his use of adjectives. Is he doing anything wrong or illegal? No, just not my kind of guy.

tsoc 07-21-2006 09:09 PM

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That kind of sums it up for me also.He is not my kind of guy.I respect his out spokenness in a way.The fact that he is a real advocate for hunting,but his message loses creedance with the way he conveys it.If many of us as hunters are turned off by his radical nature than it is really likely that the effect is even more so with the non hunting community.
AS far as shooting 6 month old deer,thats not for me,and frontal shots are totally irresponsible.

Tim4Trout 07-21-2006 11:56 PM

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I only caught part of the show and did not see him shoot, but did see him posing with one of the small deer. What was important to me was the verbal and subliminal messages that hunting is not always about trophy bucks and that we should not lose sight of the importance of culling small deer as needed for the betterment ofan overall herd.





rankbull 07-22-2006 01:11 AM

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I did not know anyone still thought of Ted as a spokes person, the man stands for everything that makes hunters look bad. If he would like to help hunters then he should stop his TV shows and his hunting videos. I was surprised that he is not in the WHA, let him be president of the NRA then everything that makes hunters look bad can be in one group.

Abuelo 07-22-2006 08:57 AM

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What really concerns me are the commentsI'm reading here. Taken together, I'm reading thatsure, "Uncle Ted"doesn't have muchhunting skill and he's unethical, but he has a big mouthand it's all legal, so he's a hero?

I once heard his tribute to Fred Bear. Too bad hedoesn't follow that example.

SumHunter 07-22-2006 09:41 AM

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I may not agree with everything he does, however it's his property, he's shooting them legally, and he uses the meat...Can't really complain about that.

vc1111 07-22-2006 10:21 AM

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I only caught part of the show and did not see him shoot, but did see him posing with one of the small deer. What was important to me was the verbal and subliminal messages that hunting is not always about trophy bucks and that we should not lose sight of the importance of culling small deer as needed for the betterment of an overall herd.
Lol, oh yea. His "subliminal" intentions are good. He wasn't gut-shooting a fawn for the camera; he was "teaching" us "the importance of culling small deer as needed for the betterment of an overall her."

Yea, that's the ticket.

Greg / MO 07-22-2006 10:33 AM

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What really concerns me are the commentsI'm reading here. Taken together, I'm reading thatsure, "Uncle Ted"doesn't have muchhunting skill and he's unethical, but he has a big mouthand it's all legal, so he's a hero?

I once heard his tribute to Fred Bear. Too bad hedoesn't follow that example.
I think you pretty much nailed it right there.

deerhunter518 07-22-2006 10:45 AM

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when is nuges tv show on


1GR8Buck 07-22-2006 03:32 PM

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Not sure when it is on but I think Tuesdays. I Tvo the show and watch it on Satrudays. I have to say, I only watch his show because of the morbid fascination I have for idiots! His most recent show being talked about here was the worst promotion for hunting I have ever been witness to. I have already removed "Spirit of the Wild" from my auto record library in my dish.
I saw another show a while back when he was hunting hogs and there was a buffalo, Impala and zebra all in the view of the camera when he shot the hog. I know everyone has their opinion however, I promote free chase hunting. I have seen on here that he can do whatever he wants on his own property but that doesn't make it right OR ethical!

1GR8Buck 07-22-2006 03:38 PM

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hey yall.. does nugent really own a high fenced area? pleasecome forth with written evidence!

this would be pretty ironic ..if so


In reference to the above post I copied on here from page 3.
When you have a Buffalo, Impala and Zebra in the field of view when he shoots a hog [show from about 4 weeks ago] that pretty much proves he owns a high fence hunting ground. I don't know about the rest of you but I haven't seen too many wild buffalo, impala or zebra running lose in the midwest over the past 20 years...

nodog 07-22-2006 03:41 PM

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From what you said he put a bad shot on a deer, it happens and a good hunter will work to never have that happen again. He then put the episode on tv. Stupid!

Proff 07-22-2006 03:48 PM

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I will admit to being an Ex Ted head. :D I became a member of World Bowhunters the first year it was formed. It eventually became TN United Sportsmen. I use to have all kind of Ted gear, had all the Zebra striped jackets, hats, just all kind of stuff. My truck used to have some Ted decals on it. I had all of the old videos and the first few seasons of the Spirit of the Wild video seriesI used to think that he was just the greatest voice for us as hunters and outdoorsmen. About 3 or 4 years ago my views really started changing. All his hunts were on ranches etc, and he really started to turn me off with the way he presented his message. I finally decided that he isn't the guy that I want representing me anymore. I think that he has gotten way to out there and his ego has gotten way out of hand. I , and I know I am not the only one, really feel that he has really become a clown anymore. I never thoiught that I would feel that way but I sure do now. Just my view of him, but I feel he does more harm than good for us anymore.


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